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#102429 - 01/07/2002 02:02 ShoWagon Installation
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5319
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
Attached are a couple of snapshots showing a little bit of the installation in my ShoWagon. (That's a Ford Taurus station wagon with a powertrain and interior out of an SHO sedan)

You can't see the in-dash speakers, but there are six of them in the dash. (There were none to start with) They are all flush mounted in the top of the dash and the grilles are painted to match -- practically invisible. We had to remove the windshield to install them. All the front stage speakers (4.5" x 1" separates in the corners, plus a 4"x1" coaxial center channel) are Diamond Audio Hex series speakers.

The 6.5" speakers located high up and forward in the front doors are also Diamond Audio Hex speakers.

The empeg player is placed where the electronic HVAC controls used to be; the HVAC controls are now where the cupholder/cointray used to be. The cupholder/cointray is now in a cardboard box in my spare bedroom.

The CD player is a high-end Clarion -- HX-D10, I think it was, with pre-amp outs only, no internal amplifier. The empeg and the clarion run into a Sony XA-39-II switch before feeding a pair of Audio Control EQT 30-band third-octave equalizers (one for each channel). The subwoofers are driven by an MTX 8302 amplifier running 4-ohm bridged mono. The rest of the speakers (6 dash speakers, two door speakers, and a pair of Boston Acoustic pro-series way in the back, up in the roof) are run by an a/d/s 850MX amplifier, which (because it has some serious problems and has to go to New York to see the amplifier doctor) will be replaced next week by an a/d/s P850 eight-channel amplifier.

There are remote gain controls located in the center armrest for the subwoofers and for the center channel. If you lay your arm on the armrest, your fingertips will be on the controls.

You can see from the pictures that the installation is pretty much stealth (my apologies for the stains in the carpet courtesy of the previous owner of the car -- no detail shop has been able to remove them so I will have to have that carpeting replaced). But, as I start opening up storage doors and removing trim panels, some of the stuff begins to see the light of day. If you grab that handle on the aluminum diamond-plate amplifier rack and lift it up (hinges on the front of the rack) you get access to the spare tire, jack, jumper cables, tools, fire extinguisher, first aid kit, etc. I am very proud that no compromise to the utility of the vehicle was made for this installation, other than replacing the full-sized spare tire with a space-saver spare to make room for the amplifiers and other components on the amp rack.

With the combination of the gain controls (four of them on the P850; two on the 8302 (only one functional because output is bridged mono); remote center channel control and remote subwoofer gain control); plus the balance and the fade control on the empeg, I can literally send 100% of the output to any single speaker in the car, or any combination thereof (counting the in-dash 4.5"x1" separates as a single speaker, of course). This allows me to do Very Good Things (tm) with imaging and staging, and with the combination of the two EQT equalizers plus the equalizer built into the empeg, I think I'll be able to get it sounding the way I want it to sound. Haven't worked on the equalization yet, though -- the installation is still a work in progress, and we haven't had a chance to sit down with an RTA and really work it over.

It's strictly a Sound Quality car, not a boomer. I think it will probably reach about 125--130dB maximum. It is the third serious stereo car I have built (well, that I have had my stereo shop build for me!) and so far it would appear that on a scale of 1-10, the first car was an 8, the second one a 6.5, and this one is a10.

tanstaafl.


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#102430 - 01/07/2002 03:37 Re: ShoWagon Installation [Re: tanstaafl.]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
...wow!!!
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#102431 - 01/07/2002 08:39 Re: ShoWagon Installation [Re: tanstaafl.]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 30891
Loc: Seattle, WA
Exceptionally cool, Doug.

We need to show you how to do a gallery at Riocar.org. You need to get some really detailed photos for this one, hopefully including shots of the front speaker locations.

Alternatively, you can just email me all your photos with your desired caption text and I'll set up the gallery for you. Make sure to send me the high rez original versions of the photos.
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#102432 - 01/07/2002 09:10 Re: ShoWagon Installation [Re: tanstaafl.]
jimhogan
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Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
Wow. So nice.

When we run Alcan, the Empeg is definitely coming along. Any way I could plug my Empeg into your system for a few sweet minutes? Oh, ....will your system play Rock???
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#102433 - 01/07/2002 09:23 Re: ShoWagon Installation [Re: jimhogan]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 30891
Loc: Seattle, WA
Oh, ....will your system play Rock???

Yes, his player has a little playlist of rock songs that I've told him he'll like.

Just like my player has a playlist of songs he's told me I'll like (the playlist is called "Classical").
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#335128 - 19/07/2010 15:03 Re: ShoWagon Installation [Re: tanstaafl.]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
Doug-

Saw this Jalopnik blurb and thought of you immediately.

Is your SHOwagon still in storage?
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#335137 - 19/07/2010 18:48 Re: ShoWagon Installation [Re: Robotic]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I just have to say that their comment on the Ferrari P4/5 rankles my hide: "one of the most beautiful Ferraris to see pavement in a long time".

I absolutely loathe that cab-forward supercar design. I understand that it might be necessary in order to fit a V12 behind the driver, but that doesn't make it not hideous.
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#335153 - 19/07/2010 23:51 Re: ShoWagon Installation [Re: Robotic]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5319
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
Originally Posted By: Robotic
Doug-
Is your SHOwagon still in storage?

Well... not really.

As you know it was totaled in February of 2008. It is back on the road as I write this (my wife is visiting in Alaska) after $154.90 worth of repairs, which included a new battery and a very stylish bright blue 2x6 as a faux bumper. (The police made me do that...)

As much as I want to do it, it just makes no sense monetarily to repair the car. It would take $6k--$8k just to repair the body damage, and there is probably another $5K in mechanical repairs (things just wear out after 200,000 miles) and parts for the car are now very difficult to obtain. If I spent $12,000 making the car right, then I'd have a car I could sell and get at least $1,500 for, if I included all the stereo gear, that is.

So, with great sadness I have relegated the beloved ShoWagon to a slow and ugly death. frown

tanstaafl.


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ShoWagon 2010.jpg


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#335226 - 20/07/2010 22:20 Re: ShoWagon Installation [Re: tanstaafl.]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Put it up on eBay with a reserve that you think is reasonable. You might be surprised that someone might be as into it as you were.
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#335229 - 21/07/2010 00:03 Re: ShoWagon Installation [Re: wfaulk]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
Yes! Anything is better than letting it rot down to a crusty hulk.
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