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#115228 - 05/10/2002 02:14 Re: New Face last step [Re: 303]
303
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Registered: 24/04/2002
Posts: 305
Loc: Germany
so we are now entering the last step!!! see how it looks with knops. last step is to build a vol knop and done! special thx to David!!!


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#115229 - 07/10/2002 06:43 New Face brushed surface [Re: 303]
303
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Registered: 24/04/2002
Posts: 305
Loc: Germany
a brushed surface. isnŽt it nice?!


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#115230 - 07/10/2002 08:05 Re: New Face brushed surface [Re: 303]
Derek
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Registered: 16/08/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: NRW, Germany
Hi Tim,
that brushed face plate looks pretty good!

Sorry I've taken so long to get back to you about the buttons. The Farnell part number for the standard black buttons from the Mark I is: 917-461 and they cost 56 cents each, with a minumum order size of 10. The caps with the lens in them (# 311-2457) don't cost much more - 61 cents each, and you can buy them singularly.

Now what is really interesting is that there are some shaped button caps, so you don't just have to have boring old round buttons, and they come in 4 colours! There are square caps, round caps and arrows in blue, grey, red and black. The one problem with them is that they are only the standard height, not the extended buttons like we have, but alongside the standard Mark I buttons is an extender that may be what we need to get them to work! Now I really wish that I had scanned in this page when I was at work so that you could see for yourself!

Wait, they are Multimec 3F series switches - there must be something on the web
the manufacturer: www.mec.dk
(hey, I don't have to look any further here, they even have CAD drawings!!)

And, looking at the tables, the nicely shaped caps work out about the same height as the Mark I caps when you use the 5mm extender. Cool! Hmm, unfortunately Farnell only list the 10mm extender :-(

(another picture of the round red caps with extenders: http://www.solico.com/new_products_from_mec2s_ser.htm)
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#115231 - 07/10/2002 08:17 Re: New Face brushed surface [Re: Derek]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3582
Loc: Columbus, OH
Looks great! I can't wait
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#115232 - 07/10/2002 10:13 Re: New Face brushed surface [Re: Derek]
303
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Registered: 24/04/2002
Posts: 305
Loc: Germany
thx a lot Derek.

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#115233 - 07/10/2002 11:18 Re: New Face brushed surface [Re: 303]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3582
Loc: Columbus, OH
Out of curiosity, would it be a whole lot extra to do a handle that doesn't have the "wing" cutouts on either side and sell the whole thing as a kit?
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#115234 - 07/10/2002 11:25 Re: New Face brushed surface [Re: JBjorgen]
303
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Registered: 24/04/2002
Posts: 305
Loc: Germany
i am very sorry, but it is. because the handle is so thin.

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#115235 - 07/10/2002 11:38 Re: New Face brushed surface [Re: 303]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3582
Loc: Columbus, OH
That's fine. I was just curious.
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#115236 - 07/10/2002 15:10 Re: New Face brushed surface [Re: 303]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
How about making it three pieces like the MK1 handle. Would that be easier.
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#115237 - 07/10/2002 20:48 Re: New Face brushed surface [Re: msaeger]
303
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Registered: 24/04/2002
Posts: 305
Loc: Germany
yep, working on that!

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#115238 - 08/10/2002 11:49 Re: New Face brushed surface [Re: 303]
Nosferatu
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Registered: 24/08/2001
Posts: 344
Loc: France, Champagne
I dont know how to explain my wish , here I go :

Every time my Empeg is docked (in Car), when the handle is entirely pushed, the place between the handle and and the bottom of the face is not big ehough to put my finger.

Could you try to make more place because I am sure not to be the only one that to try to pull the handle with the end of my finger ....
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#115239 - 08/10/2002 13:06 Re: New Face brushed surface [Re: Nosferatu]
303
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Registered: 24/04/2002
Posts: 305
Loc: Germany
i know exactly what you mean, but it just looks stupid if there is more space. i push the left top of the handle and the whole thing comes out or i use the nail. i know thats not perfect, but i prefer a cool look for the NewFace and i think there is one dead to die, ya know!

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#115240 - 13/10/2002 02:27 Re: New Face in black [Re: 303]
303
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Registered: 24/04/2002
Posts: 305
Loc: Germany
here is something in black!
Jets may be you like it?


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#115241 - 13/10/2002 08:24 Re: New Face in black [Re: 303]
jets
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Registered: 08/07/2002
Posts: 237
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Yes, I do like the color better! It *could* blend in with the alpine better for certain. I understand that this is a prototype and so maybe all the lines will be cut smoother later. Other than that, it looks cool!
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#115242 - 13/10/2002 17:36 Re: New Face in black [Re: 303]
Micman2b
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Registered: 27/12/2001
Posts: 441
Loc: Central, NC, USA
I like that in black... That is sweet... I would buy two..
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#115243 - 14/10/2002 09:39 Re: New Face Daddy is freakinŽout [Re: 303]
303
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Registered: 24/04/2002
Posts: 305
Loc: Germany
my Dad is doing the CNC stuff and he is freakinŽout, donŽt you agree?


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#115244 - 14/10/2002 11:56 Re: New Face Daddy is freakinŽout [Re: 303]
Nosferatu
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Registered: 24/08/2001
Posts: 344
Loc: France, Champagne
I like the second Proto in Black ...
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#115245 - 14/10/2002 19:41 Re: New Face Daddy is freakinŽout [Re: 303]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
The way thing are going you will be ending up with a pile of one of a kind facias from your dads "playing."

Maybe its time to open a store.
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#115246 - 15/10/2002 10:12 NewKnop [Re: 303]
303
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Registered: 24/04/2002
Posts: 305
Loc: Germany
hi everybody here is the NewKnop (its part of the NewFace). the holes are for the illuminated guys and girls, if you know what i mean.


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#115247 - 15/10/2002 12:22 Re: NewKnop [Re: 303]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
    NewKnop
Are you trying to say ``knob''?
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#115248 - 15/10/2002 13:13 Re: NewKnob [Re: wfaulk]
303
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Registered: 24/04/2002
Posts: 305
Loc: Germany
uups, thanxx you are right. i am a stupid germ.

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#115249 - 15/10/2002 13:51 Re: NewKnob [Re: 303]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
    i am a stupid germ.
I believe you mean ``kraut''.

Kidding! Just kidding!
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#115250 - 15/10/2002 13:53 Re: NewKnob [Re: wfaulk]
303
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Registered: 24/04/2002
Posts: 305
Loc: Germany
no no, i try to be smart "germ" you know!!!

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#115251 - 17/10/2002 22:57 Re: New Face in black [Re: 303]
dcosta
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Registered: 04/02/2002
Posts: 277
Loc: Massachussetts
KICK ASS !!!!!!!
You've got one sold to me, that's for sure.
that black one is awesome.
and I love the knob, too,
I'm sure that'll be black, too right ?
How much are these planned to be ?
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#115252 - 21/10/2002 11:00 NewFace it is almost done [Re: 303]
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Registered: 24/04/2002
Posts: 305
Loc: Germany
it is almost done! tomorrow, i just have to check if i like the anodized one. if i like it, next week the site is complete, with pics of course. i would like to know how you would like to do the money buisness on that? i am able to build just a little stock of the NewFace. if i know more or less how many of you are really interested to have one, that will help that you will get it ASAP. the NewFace goes out with 4 NewKnops either in black or translucent, with 4 NewScrews to fit the aluminum and last but not least with a NewVolknop! for those of you who are interested the url is http://www.by-photos.de/NewFace.html with no pix yet!

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#115253 - 21/10/2002 12:13 Re: NewKnop [Re: wfaulk]
pim
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Registered: 14/11/2000
Posts: 474
Loc: The Hague, the Netherlands
NewKnop

Are you trying to say ``knob''?

I kinda like the word NewKnop. Knop is Dutch, and is vocally just in between the English knob and the German Knopf.

Pim

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#115254 - 21/10/2002 12:24 Re: NewKnop [Re: pim]
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Registered: 24/04/2002
Posts: 305
Loc: Germany
exactly that was my intention!!!

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#115255 - 25/10/2002 12:34 Re: New Face Daddy is freakinŽout [Re: 303]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
These should be titled "Before Coffee" and "After Coffee"

- or:

"Nearly! Nearly!" and "Aaaahhh"
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#115256 - 30/10/2002 03:44 Re: NewKnop [Re: 303]
sphengali
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Registered: 22/10/2002
Posts: 82
Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Just caught up with this thread - love the protos, I'm a 'sure thing' for a buy as well - went to your site, there are still not any pics of the final products though. My original plan was to get a brushed aluminium one, and an Alpine 7838 metal Knop - do you know if it will still fit? If the original rotary knob still fits, then the alpine one should as well...
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#115257 - 30/10/2002 06:22 Re: NewKnop [Re: 303]
BartDG
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Registered: 20/05/2001
Posts: 2616
Loc: Bruges, Belgium
HI!

I just caught up with this thread, and I must say I like your black metal fascia very much!

I've only got one question for you (and I'm sure I'm not the only one with this question). I've recently got my Mk2a upgraded with a the lighted buttons hack. The way I see it is that I can no longer use my translucent lighted buttons with your metal fascia because the holes are of a different shape.

Though I like your design very much, I would hate it if I had to loose my lighted buttons.

I figure that the people that had their Empeg's "button hacked" are probably the same people that bought new lenses for it from Darkstorm, and are most likely the first people to buy a new metal facia from you. (meaning : people for who the Empeg is MORE than just an mp3 player - I'm one of those people). I'm pretty sure that for any of those people -myself included- it would be a pretty big issue if they weren't able to use their lighted buttons anymore if they would choose your metal fascia for their player.
Have you considered a design that incorporates the original buttons, or is this simply not possible ?

If I'm completely honest I must say that I can't (and won't) imagine my Empeg without it's lighted buttons anymore. So I hope you'll take that into consideration and maybe want to design a fascia that CAN use the original buttons.
Because otherwise I'm VERY interested and impressed with your fascias. They seem very professional and utterly beautiful! Very nice work!
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