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#133605 - 08/01/2003 15:59 Re: Butter [Re: lopan]
Laura
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But if you put thin pieces of butter on the toast when it is still hot from being fresh out of the toaster then the butter melts quite easily. No fake butter in my house and no butter left out either where dust, cat hairs and cat tongues can find it.
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#133606 - 08/01/2003 16:02 Re: Butter [Re: revlmwest]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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Loc: Providence, RI
My wife's paternal grandmother? My in-law paternal grandmother? My paternal-grandmother-in-law?

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#133607 - 08/01/2003 16:57 Re: Butter [Re: Dignan]
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
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Now this might be where you wrong about the tucky stuff being bad as modern thinking says that the reason we have so many allergies is because our houses are so clean and our immune system ends up going a bit wierd

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#133608 - 08/01/2003 17:27 Re: Butter [Re: Dignan]
David
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Loc: Cambridge
I'm very fussy about butter and I leave it out of the fridge. Even though I can (with great discipline and patience) spread cold butter, it takes too long and I like to use loads of the stuff, so it's just not going to work.

I get a salted Normandy butter (Lanquetot - if you like salted butter and can find it, try it and you'll never touch cheap butter again) that comes in a pottery pot with a plastic lid that seals over the top. It stays in the cupboard and gets replaced once a week with a new pot whether I need to or not.


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#133609 - 08/01/2003 17:36 Re: Butter [Re: thinfourth2]
lopan
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Registered: 28/01/2002
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Loc: Manassas VA
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the reason we have so many allergies is because our houses are so clean and our immune system ends up going a bit wierd




Thats very true.... statistics show that children sent to daycare centers (germ factorys) and not kept in the home all day are less likely to have asthma and other crap due to a stronger immune system. Did anyone see the "Ripleys Believe it or Not" episode where the guy cured his cancer by eating rancid rotting meats? Germs are our friends...
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#133610 - 08/01/2003 19:12 Re: Butter [Re: butter]
BleachLPB
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Registered: 01/11/2001
Posts: 354
Loc: Maryland
I prefer to keep myself out

What do you do about the rind?
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#133611 - 08/01/2003 19:17 Re: Butter [Re: David]
BleachLPB
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Loc: Maryland
Hmm I always hated dealing with the cold butter on toast problem as a child. My mom started to whip butter she bought from the store, and this solved that problem at the expense of her effort.

Butter that you squeezed out of a plastic bottle... that went a little too far for me.

I don't use butter at all now except for cooking. Usually, I prefer cream cheese, maybe with some Aromat, on a toasted bagel. Mmmmm.
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#133612 - 08/01/2003 19:33 Re: Butter [Re: Laura]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
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Loc: Sterling, VA
no butter left out either where dust, cat hairs and cat tongues can find it

Ew again! That's why I keep my butter in a butter tray, it has a lid to keep the cats away!
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#133613 - 08/01/2003 19:58 Re: Butter [Re: wfaulk]
number6
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In looking around for this, I've found Anchor Spreadable Butter, but it claims to be softened with canola oil, not water. The other spreadable butters I've found seem to be the same




Thats the "export" product you're seeing there on the Anchor.co.nz webpage.
They use Canola as they its trendy/fashionable to put "canola oil" in stuff as Canola is Monounsatured (like Olive Oil) but doesn't have that strong Olive Oil flavour) that would ruin the butter taste. Plus Canola help extend the shelf life of the product I think - not sure on this point. But given that most butter sold under the Anchor brand is shipped via containers (so-called "cooltainers" as opposed to refridgerated ones - aka "reefers"). I think that one of the problems with water based spreadable butter is that the water does slowly seperate/evaporate, turning it back into good old hard butter - thats why they may use Canola as well.

When they started making this spreadable butter it was only water they used (and not much mind) to mix in with the butter via a special process that cost more to make so they charged more for it.

Then they got the idea of using a process that homogenised and did stuff to the fat molecules in the butter and this made is spreadable. The exporter claimed that this was no longer butter and therefore not subject to the European quota sytem on butter imports, but the European butter makers claimed that this was not the case and the spreadable butter was therefore in fact "butter".
I can't recall the outcome of that court case, but I think the European farmers won.

And now it looks like they use Canola oil instead.

The spreadable butter we get locally is usually "fresher" and therefore has a different method of making it - I'm sure and it has water in it, the next time I'm in the local supermarket I'll read the label on the spreadable butters and see...



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#133614 - 08/01/2003 20:15 Re: Butter [Re: David]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
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Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
This BBS amazes me. I would expect expertise on how to solder SMT resistors or what music to go buy, but butter??? I love it. We've got dozens of resident butter experts.

Is there ANY topic that we don't have at least one expet (or self-annointed expert) on???
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#133615 - 08/01/2003 20:24 Re: Butter [Re: tonyc]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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Loc: Providence, RI
Is there ANY topic that we don't have at least one expet (or self-annointed expert) on???
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#133616 - 08/01/2003 21:06 Re: Butter [Re: Dignan]
ricin
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Registered: 19/06/2000
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Loc: US: CA
That's why I keep my butter in a butter tray, it has a lid to keep the cats away!

Butter is far better than Parkay, but they don't sell it at Comp USA.

Sorry, I think i'm just really tired... :P
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#133617 - 08/01/2003 21:29 Re: Butter [Re: ricin]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
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Loc: Sterling, VA
"How about I just go eat some hay? I can make things out of clay, and lay by the bay. I just may! Whaddya you say?"
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#133618 - 08/01/2003 22:00 Re: Butter [Re: Dignan]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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Loc: Providence, RI
yay?

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#133619 - 08/01/2003 22:05 Re: Butter [Re: Daria]
tfabris
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Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Nay.
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#133620 - 08/01/2003 22:05 Re: Butter [Re: tfabris]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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Loc: Providence, RI
Hey!

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#133621 - 08/01/2003 22:06 Re: Butter [Re: Daria]
tfabris
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Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
What?
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#133622 - 08/01/2003 22:06 Re: Butter [Re: tfabris]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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Loc: Providence, RI
That doesn't rhyme.

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#133623 - 08/01/2003 22:08 Re: Butter [Re: Daria]
suomi35
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Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 290
Loc: Denver, CO
I used to live in Texas...butter cannot be left out in Texas.

Then I lived in Finland...butter can live outside the fridge in Finland indefinately, arguably the whole counrty is similar to a fridge itself.

Now I live in Denver...I have seen it both ways here. I prefer the room temp butter. mmmmmmmmmm butter!!!
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#133624 - 08/01/2003 22:14 Re: Butter [Re: Daria]
lopan
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Registered: 28/01/2002
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Loc: Manassas VA
Yup you can tell its gettin late in here... So what about syrup? Leave it out or refrigerate? How bout soy sauce?

Now, I know I love my luke warm crusty mayonaise, thats good eatin..
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#133625 - 08/01/2003 22:19 Re: Butter [Re: lopan]
tfabris
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Now, I know I love my luke warm crusty mayonaise, thats good eatin.

<Fast food employee on The Simpsons>
"Hey, we're out of secret sauce! Put this mayonnaise out in the sun."
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#133626 - 08/01/2003 22:24 Re: Butter [Re: tonyc]
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Loc: Los Angeles
> Is there ANY topic that we don't have at least one expet (or self-annointed expert) on???

Not sure I'd get medical advice here.
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#133627 - 08/01/2003 22:27 Re: Butter [Re: ninti]
suomi35
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Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 290
Loc: Denver, CO
I leave out both syrup and soy sauce. I used to think soy hadta be in the fridge, but my girlfriend is asian and her family has always had their soy on the table....
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#133628 - 08/01/2003 22:30 Re: Butter [Re: ninti]
lopan
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Registered: 28/01/2002
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Loc: Manassas VA
I think i'd take medical advice from Jim...
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#133629 - 08/01/2003 22:43 Re: Butter [Re: lopan]
suomi35
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Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 290
Loc: Denver, CO
on a whim...
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#133630 - 08/01/2003 22:57 Re: Butter [Re: lopan]
tfabris
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Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
As in, "He's Dead, Jim." ?
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#133631 - 08/01/2003 23:00 Re: Butter [Re: tfabris]
suomi35
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Registered: 16/02/2002
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Loc: Denver, CO
aaaand a journeyman was him!!!!
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#133632 - 08/01/2003 23:13 Re: Butter [Re: tfabris]
lopan
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Registered: 28/01/2002
Posts: 970
Loc: Manassas VA
As in Hogan.... I remember his riveting post about the guys heart exploding post heart surgery and rocketing stuff across the room and onto the wall during his intern days? I think?
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#133633 - 08/01/2003 23:38 Re: Butter [Re: lopan]
lopan
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Registered: 28/01/2002
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Loc: Manassas VA
Ah Ha!! Found IT!!
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#133634 - 09/01/2003 04:05 Re: Butter [Re: number6]
frog51
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Registered: 09/08/2000
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Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
Living in Scotland, I guess room temp is probably okay to leave butter out (usually have the thermostat set to 18C)
I wouldn't do it, though, because you can't cut soft butter, only spread it.
My preference is to have good salted butter nice and cold in the fridge. When making toast, I usually hold the knife over the toaster to heat it up then cut off slices of butter maybe just under 1mm thick and place them on the toast immediately it comes out of the toaster. The butter then melts straight into the toast with no spreading required.

Of course, you need to get a good quality, salted butter because otherwise it tastes terrible.

Edit - of course, Scotland is famed for the high proportion of heart attacks in the population. Hey ho!


Edited by frog51 (09/01/2003 04:06)
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