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#142397 - 10/02/2003 19:15 BT and ADSL
tman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
*grumble* My ADSL has been down all day because of some unspecified problem at BT. According to ADSL Guide it's knocked out around 200 exchanges in London and it's surrounding area!

I'm using my 56k dialup account and it's painful! (Apologies to anybody actually stuck on a 56k dialup still...)

- Trevor

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#142398 - 11/02/2003 02:16 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: tman]
frog51
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
I am sooooo jealous. My exchange is broadband enabled, but I live 200m too far away from it! Akkkk! And the lines to my area are so crap I get a max of 32kbaud. And to top it off, all my brothers have 2meg pipes (or greater) - this makes UT2003 very difficult. What a superb handicap system - my ping times are around 400 higher than theirs.

Time to move house - am browsing espc.co.uk now!
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#142399 - 11/02/2003 02:54 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: frog51]
andy
carpal tunnel

Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5914
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
My exchange is broadband enabled, but I live 200m too far away from it! Akkkk! And the lines to my area are so crap I get a max of 32kbaud.

I feel for you....

I was at someone's house over the weekend when I saw something funny. I noticed that they had connected they PC to the phone line in a very odd way.

Both ends were normal, but two feet from the PC the modem cable dissappeared into a plastic terminal block, out of the other side came a two core mains cable. The mains cable then ran for 40 feet or so to the phone socket where there was another plastic terminal block connecting the mains cable to the other end of the modem cable.

You'll never guess what speed connection they were managing...

...a steady 45k on every connection. Before I got ADSL I never, ever, managed more that 38k on a modem connection. I obviously wasn't using enough mains lead !
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#142400 - 11/02/2003 03:17 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: tman]
PaulWay
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Registered: 03/08/1999
Posts: 451
Loc: Canberra, Australia
Odd. I've been having problems with my ADSL connection here in Melbourne too.

Aside: what do other people pay for their ADSL? I pay AUD$50 per month for 256/64 and 2GB transfer. I know Australia is usually one of the more expensive places to get connected, but I'd like to actually know how much pain I'm suffering

Have fun,

Paul
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#142401 - 11/02/2003 04:49 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: PaulWay]
Cris
pooh-bah

Registered: 06/02/2002
Posts: 1904
Loc: Leeds, UK
I pay £21.99 for BTOpenworld 512/256 with no download limit currently here in the UK. It should be £29.99 but I get staff discount.

I have to supply my own modem though, but thats OK I have a Van full as I install and repair broadband. ;-)

Cheers

Cris

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#142402 - 11/02/2003 05:15 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: Cris]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5680
Loc: London, UK
I have to supply my own modem though

When I installed ADSL at my g/f's flat last month, I used a D-Link DI-614+ combined DSL modem/router/firewall/wireless AP box.

It's sweet.

ObDSLCost: It costs £23.44 a month (inc VAT) for Pipex DSL.
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#142403 - 11/02/2003 06:24 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: PaulWay]
tman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
I pay about £26.75 a month for 512/256 without a download limit. That's about AUD$74 according to a currency converter.
I'm actually close enough to the exchange to get the 2048/256 service but I don't really want to pay the £140 a month for that considering I could just walk over to my office and use the internet connection there!

- Trevor

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#142404 - 11/02/2003 06:58 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: tman]
andy
carpal tunnel

Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5914
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
I've got 1024/256 20:1 from Easynet that I pay £116 a month for. I will be switching to a £30 a month 512/256 50:1 line later this year and spending £60 a month on 1U of colo space instead.
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#142405 - 11/02/2003 07:39 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: PaulWay]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I was paying US$50/month for 608/128, but right now I'm paying US$50 for 0/0 in hopes of soon paying US$50 for 1500/768. I have a transfer limit on my Usenet bandwidth, but I doubt that's what you're talking about. If it is, mine's 1GB/month.

Edit: I should point out that I could get it cheaper, but my ISP (Speakeasy) is very cool to deal with -- very geek-friendly -- so I don't mind paying a little more, and I get a static IP, which is vaguely hard to come by in the US.


Edited by wfaulk (11/02/2003 10:18)
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#142406 - 11/02/2003 09:18 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: Cris]
thinfourth2
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
You probably shouldn't of told us that.


But can you find out when an area is going to get broadband as my new house in aberdeen ain't got it.
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#142407 - 11/02/2003 09:31 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: thinfourth2]
Cris
pooh-bah

Registered: 06/02/2002
Posts: 1904
Loc: Leeds, UK
Have you got little grey boxes all over the place in the street ???

Cheers

Cris.

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#142408 - 11/02/2003 09:59 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: Cris]
JBjorgen
carpal tunnel

Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3582
Loc: Columbus, OH
US $79.95 for 1500/256 (business acct. pricing) with bellsouth. Same plan is $55/mo with residential pricing.
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#142409 - 11/02/2003 11:04 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: wfaulk]
matthew_k
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Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
Hang in there for the 1.5/768. I just got it last month, and the connection is great. So, 1.5/768 for $50, it's a great deal untill worldcom goes tits-up.

Matthew

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#142410 - 11/02/2003 15:25 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: PaulWay]
rjlov
member

Registered: 16/12/1999
Posts: 188
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Also in Melbourne, I'm paying AUD60 per month, for 512/128 and a 500MB download limit (no upload limit). Occasionally the link goes down for a couple of hours or so. I've had to reboot my modem now and then as well, but I don't know whose fault that is. Other than that it's been pretty good though. It may be expensive, but it's cheaper and a lot faster than the dialup that I had previously.

Richard.

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#142411 - 11/02/2003 15:42 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: matthew_k]
djc
enthusiast

Registered: 08/08/2000
Posts: 351
Loc: chicago
ok, i'm curious about the 1.5/768 for $50 deal. looking at speakeasy, it looks like it's $100 for that package. is this a targeted promotion, or am i just looking in the wrong place?

--dan.

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#142412 - 11/02/2003 16:03 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: djc]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
It's a targeted promotion. I had $50 for 608/128 and they wanted to move me to a new pop and the increased speed was the benefit. Pretty remarkable benefit. I'm having to remember that during this outage.
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#142413 - 11/02/2003 16:44 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: wfaulk]
djc
enthusiast

Registered: 08/08/2000
Posts: 351
Loc: chicago
ah, dang. i was looking for the last straw to make me cancel AT&T/comcast cable service.

thanks,
--dan.

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#142414 - 11/02/2003 17:06 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: djc]
matthew_k
pooh-bah

Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
It may be targeted with speakeasy, but Cyberonic has it for anyone, with a $100 activation fee. I managed to get around that by signing up with a bunch of directv refugees, but you might just want to bite the bullet and pay it. it's $40 a month if you're willing to prepay 18 months, but that's betting your isp will be around for a bit longer than I'm willing to bet.

Cyberonic isn't that great support wise, but I think a lot of that stems from the hundreds (thousands?) of directv people that were trying to sign up at the same time. It comes with one real IP, and you can get more if you really want. Current speed test @4pm:
download «1244 kbps
upload «601 kbps

Matthew

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#142415 - 13/02/2003 10:36 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: matthew_k]
djc
enthusiast

Registered: 08/08/2000
Posts: 351
Loc: chicago
ooooo.... tempting. anyone else have an experience (good or bad) with cyberonic?

--dan.

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#142416 - 13/02/2003 10:45 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: Cris]
thinfourth2
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
Describe these wee square boxes
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#142417 - 13/02/2003 11:09 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: thinfourth2]
Cris
pooh-bah

Registered: 06/02/2002
Posts: 1904
Loc: Leeds, UK
Small grey boxes with white numbers on every 100yards or so. If you have these then you are on TPON. It means you have fibre to the end of your street and only the last few meters is copper, this means ADSL is a while off for you yet. BT have been trying this sort of stuff on new housing estates that are quite far from the exchange.

If you don't the only thing you can do is head on over to http://www.bt.com/braodband and check the interest in your area.

Cheers

Cris.

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#142418 - 13/02/2003 11:40 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: Roger]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5680
Loc: London, UK
No, I tell a lie, it was a DI-604+. Sorry.
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#142419 - 13/02/2003 11:54 Re: BT and ADSL [Re: Cris]
thinfourth2
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
might have a look next time i am there but seeing my new house is 200 miles away not going to look tonight
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