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#154325 - 15/04/2003 10:54 Re: Sometimes I wonder.... [Re: JeffS]
revlmwest
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No Jeff I know you better than that... My point is that complexity is as easily used for God as it against God.

By the way Not Home Yet just came up on my empeg.
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#154326 - 15/04/2003 11:12 Re: Sometimes I wonder.... [Re: revlmwest]
JeffS
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No Jeff I know you better than that... My point is that complexity is as easily used for God as it against God.
Absolutely, and a good point. Didn’t mean to get all defensive on ya!

By the way Not Home Yet just came up on my empeg.
That's a really strange thing to hear, that people actually listen to the stuff I've written! FWIW, my wife and I are actually going to re-record that song and a few others at the end of May, though NYH is actually one of the few songs that came out well in the “rough” cut version we did. However, I can’t escape the feeling that the lyrics of the first verse aren’t quite right and I’d like to add drums, electric guitars, B3 organ, etc. if possible. Once I ever do get these songs recorded the way I want I plan to put them out on the web so everyone can download them, though admittedly they are unambiguously Christian in nature and might not find that wide an audience.
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#154327 - 15/04/2003 12:06 Re: Sometimes I wonder.... [Re: JeffS]
mdavey
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Registered: 06/03/2003
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They are unambiguously Christian in nature and might not find that wide an audience.


Well, Delirious seems to be doing quite well
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#154328 - 15/04/2003 12:13 Re: Sometimes I wonder.... [Re: mdavey]
revlmwest
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I'm familiar with Delirious but I was unaware that they were making inroads into mainstream circles. Could this be an English situation?
Of course many groups have accomplished this before for short times. Jars of Clay, d c Talk, Michael W. Smith, etc.
Jeff's music is not only unambiguously Christian in nature, but worship oriented.
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#154329 - 15/04/2003 16:50 Christian Music [Re: revlmwest]
mdavey
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This is all purely from dodgy memory recall, but I think the situation is:

* in terms of UK record sales they have outsold Top 40 records on a number of occasions but don't qualify due to some strange rules that we have regarding music genres - they are classified as religious music and thus don't qualify for pop chart possitions

* the BBC won't give them airtime as they cannot find bands for other religions to balance things out (needed because of the BBC's impartiality rules)

* tickets for their Wembley Stadium concert sold out

* they have sold more albums in the US than Robbie Williams

* the US is now a more lucrative market for them than the UK

* the US rules on genres and chart positions are different

...as I said - from memory.
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#154330 - 15/04/2003 17:10 Re: Sometimes I wonder.... [Re: wfaulk]
Laura
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Or at least has a twisted sense of humor. How can he not get a good laugh out of us at times.
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#154331 - 15/04/2003 22:53 Re: Sometimes I wonder.... [Re: JeffS]
johnmcd3
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Registered: 19/04/2001
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I don't think it'll go 300+ this time, I'm not sure there's that much more to say!
hahahahahah!
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#154332 - 16/04/2003 04:27 Re: Sometimes I wonder.... [Re: johnmcd3]
JeffS
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Hey now, I already admitted I was wrong on that count:
OK, maybe this will turn into a 300+ thread, I can admit when I'm wrong!


We also pretty much had wrapped up (what was then) the current discussion by that point, so I figured we were done.
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#154333 - 22/04/2003 12:23 Re: Sometimes I wonder.... [Re: muzza]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
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I've come back onto the board tonight after a few weeks off.

It's rather difficult to explain what has happened to me, and why I made that post a few weeks back. To cut it short, at the time, a lot of things were going wrong, and since then, they haven't really got much better.

I've totalled my car: I've been (twice)refused dole money: I've been out of work for about 8 months now: there's been family problems and other things I really didn't want to have to deal with: there's been days where I wake up in the morning and lay there thinking "What's the bloody point?"

It's all to easy to get into a mindset where the world's against you, and when things are going wrong and you're a bit isolated, well - it can only get worse.

So one of the most important things you can have - one way or another - is to have a group of friends who (in the end) you can talk to, count on - whatever.

To try and get out of this without being too mushy - I am only now begining to realise that I have made friends here that for one reason or another, I have forgotten about on occasions. It has helped to sit and read throught this thread, to some extent.

Sorry people, it was a bit of a stupid post, and it had rather too much to do with one of my oldest enemies, Mr. Ethanol (and his various tasty relations).

Perhaps it's time to start getting out of bed on time again.
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#154334 - 22/04/2003 12:31 Re: Sometimes I wonder.... [Re: schofiel]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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We'll always be here for you, Rob. I know that "here" is kind of an amorphous concept when you're often talking to people in a different hemisphere. But we *do* care.
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#154335 - 22/04/2003 12:54 Re: Sometimes I wonder.... [Re: boxer]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
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I haven't had the hood up on my TR 6 for about 3 years now - I tried to lift it a few weeks back to find the hood webbing had rotted without me noticing...
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#154336 - 22/04/2003 13:09 Re: Sometimes I wonder.... [Re: schofiel]
JeffS
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Loc: Atlanta, GA
Rob,
Let me reiterate Tony’s sentiments here. I am only a recent member to this community, but I value your presence here and wish the best for you. It’s good to have you back.

I also would like to say that I’m sorry for my part in turning this thread into kind of an intellectual squabble; I did not consider the source of your question as I attempted to answer and discuss it.
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#154337 - 22/04/2003 19:30 Re: Sometimes I wonder.... [Re: JeffS]
tanstaafl.
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I’m sorry for my part in turning this thread into kind of an intellectual squabble

Please, don't apologize for that! This has been one of the most informative and entertaining threads we've ever had on this bbs, even if it was started by Rob's pain. I have a co-worker who is a "hard-core" baptist, one who nearly matches the Baptist stereotype of close-minded evangelism (sorry, Rev, after our chats I can affirm that that stereotype is incorrect!) and even he found this thread interesting.

And Rob -- I am SO glad that you are feeling better. Which car did you total? Was it the Mini?

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#154338 - 24/04/2003 14:14 Re: Sometimes I wonder.... [Re: tanstaafl.]
Derek
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Which car did you total? Was it the Mini?

Unfortunately it was the Mini :-( And it wasn't Rob's fault either (naturally). Some scumbag ran up the back of him with a truck when he stopped at the lights. He had the 2 boys with him at the time and one of them was hurt, but fortunately not seriously. Unfortunately it sounds like the Mini is terminal :-( :-'(
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#154339 - 25/04/2003 07:08 Re: Sometimes I wonder.... [Re: schofiel]
edsmiata
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The point is...

good sex
good food
good rest......nothing else is necessary
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#154340 - 26/04/2003 21:42 Re: Sometimes I wonder.... [Re: edsmiata]
canuckInOR
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good sex
good food
good rest......nothing else is necessary


I assume the Empeg falls into the "good rest" part?

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#154341 - 27/04/2003 14:07 FLYP [Re: Derek]
schofiel
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#154342 - 27/04/2003 14:08 ....RIP [Re: schofiel]
schofiel
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#154343 - 27/04/2003 14:25 Re: ....RIP [Re: schofiel]
speedy67
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Registered: 18/12/2000
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Oh Rob,

poor Mini. From the point of view of the insurance, this is totaled, i believe.
And from your financial situation, too.
But as far as i can see from the pic, this is not that much to do.
Or is the frame destroyed? Do you have a friend, who is a mechanic?
At least a place to keep the Mini for better times?

Feeling with you...

See you at the meet,
Thomas
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#154344 - 28/04/2003 19:42 Re: ....RIP [Re: schofiel]
tanstaafl.
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That's totaled?

Unless there is some significant hidden damage not readily visible in the picture, that looks far from being a total loss.

Even here in Alaska where things are more expensive, I would expect to pay about $1200--$1500 to have that damage repaired. A used lid for the boot, a used tail light assembly for the starboard side, a bit of metal bashing and respray would have that car on the road again pretty quickly.

Or am I missing something obvious?

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#154345 - 28/04/2003 21:05 Re: ....RIP [Re: tanstaafl.]
canuckInOR
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Or am I missing something obvious?


Given the size of the car, and the size of the dent, it wouldn't surprise me if the frame has been bent far enough out of alignment that the wheels'll never roll true again. But yeah, I was expecting something much worse. I'm certainly not one to understand the insurance industry's definition of totalled.

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#154346 - 29/04/2003 00:33 Re: ....RIP [Re: canuckInOR]
speedy67
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in Germany a car is totalled (from the view of the insurance-company), when the repair-costs including NEW parts and the repair done in a dealers garage is about 90% or more than a comparable car would cost to buy.
I think, this would be the same in other countries, especially in the EU...
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#154347 - 29/04/2003 01:11 Re: ....RIP [Re: speedy67]
boxer
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Registered: 16/04/2002
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Loc: Yorkshire UK
90% or more than a comparable car would cost to buy.


I think you're right, insurance totalled by definition, CanuckinLA and Tanstaafl are right, parts from a couple of scrapyards and a little genius with a blow torch in a lock up garage would see it right. Judging from the photo and having done diy on a succession of 4 minis in my youth, one with a crash which looked much like that, I'd have said the wheels might well be still in alignment and, by the way it's constructed, it's not to hard to straighten or replace.

Maybe the little men with blow torchs and paint sprays, who understand minis, are more in profusion this side of the channel - we have just such a man who sorts the small shunts on our company cars!
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