#165683 - 17/06/2003 08:40
Re: Strange randomization
[Re: JeffS]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 21/05/1999
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Speaking of whom, have they been reading this or have they just been ignore it
I've found it vaguely entertaining. I'm not sure how many other user communities would go to the lengths of writing statistical distribution simulations 
Rob
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#165684 - 17/06/2003 09:42
Re: Strange randomization
[Re: rob]
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I'm not sure how many other user communities would go to the lengths of writing statistical distribution simulations We are sort of unique, aren't we? Sometimes I code better than I argue (a good thing for my pocketbook), so add that to curiosity and boredom and that's what you get. Oh, and there’s probably a high statistical probability that some community somewhere would have someone who'd write a statistical analysis program to make a point! 
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#165685 - 18/06/2003 13:22
Re: Strange randomization
[Re: tfabris]
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In reply to:
I'm just wondering what that criteria is.
What the criteria are, Fabris! Or what the criterion is, more likely.
Now write out one hundred times, "Romani ite domum" - if it's not done by sunrise, I'll cut your balls off.
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#165686 - 18/06/2003 13:42
Re: Strange randomization
[Re: JeffS]
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The "obvious things that won't come up" are probably the best combinations to pick for a lottery. The reasoning being that most people shy away from these combinations, so there are likely to be fewer winners sharing the payout (assuming that's how your lottery works - it is here in the UK).
For the record, I'd like to say that I've never bought a lottery ticket (but sadly I can't, as I was once sent to buy one for someone else).
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#165688 - 18/06/2003 14:02
Re: Strange randomization
[Re: tms13]
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The reasoning being that most people shy away from these combinations, so there are likely to be fewer winners sharing the payout Actually, the guy at Wizardofodds.com says precisely the opposite, and I think I agree with him. It only takes a handful of jokers playing "1 2 3 4 5 6 7" to really ruin the payout for you. And among all of the people playing our state lottery, I'm sure there's a lot more than just a handful of jokers. You also have the people running wheeling systems where that combination (or something similar) is one of the wheeled patterns.
For the record, I'd like to say that I've never bought a lottery ticket (but sadly I can't, as I was once sent to buy one for someone else). I forget who first said, "the lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math." Course, I still buy the occasional ticket for the hell of it. Cheaper than dropping hundreds at blackjack. Hey, wait, I do that, too. Argh, I have too much discretionary income.
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#165689 - 18/06/2003 14:06
Re: Strange randomization
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
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It only takes a handful of jokers playing "1 2 3 4 5 6 7" to really ruin the payout for you. I was about to say this. However, picking a non-obvious run might do it for you, say 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28. This sort of skirts the obvious runs but still is something the average person won't pick. At least I'd think so. I'm no lottery wizard or anything.
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#165690 - 18/06/2003 16:26
Re: Strange randomization
[Re: tfabris]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/02/2002
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I forget who first said, "the lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math."
I used to think so too. I used to work for a large ISP, full of engineers and computer scientists. It's probably fair to say that the average mathematical ability there was above the national average. I changed my mind the day that one of the cafeteria girls quit.
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#165691 - 18/06/2003 22:16
Re: Strange randomization
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
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Cheaper than dropping hundreds at blackjack. Hey, wait, I do that, too.
They have a couple of tables on the ferry to Hook of Holland... we should start practicing our two up counting technique
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#165692 - 19/06/2003 09:55
Re: Strange randomization
[Re: rob]
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#165693 - 19/06/2003 12:01
Re: Strange randomization
[Re: tfabris]
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Carpal Tunnel
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Argh, I have too much discretionary income.
If that's causing you a problem then just send it my way.
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