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#180861 - 07/10/2003 14:22 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: RobotCaleb]
RobotCaleb
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i am not a photochop guru. actually, i suck at it. but thats kind of my idea. not so blurry looking though.


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#180862 - 07/10/2003 14:31 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: RobotCaleb]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Thanks, I'll forward your idea to the caster.

Stu
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#180863 - 07/10/2003 16:29 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: RobotCaleb]
Diznario
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Registered: 17/10/2001
Posts: 265
Loc: Portland OR
I really like that idea, and I think that effect could probably be done with a layered approach.

You could do something like this:

Pour in a thin layer of mostly opaque resin, let that harden, and then fill up the rest of the mold with a more translucent mixture.

That would be awesome... But I think the tricky part might be getting exactly the right amount poured in for the first layer.
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#180864 - 07/10/2003 16:32 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: Diznario]
Diznario
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Loc: Portland OR
Heck, why not just do black for the first layer? Or some other opaque solid color?

That way, you'd have a back light sort of effect...
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#180865 - 08/10/2003 04:10 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: Diznario]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
Ooh, ooh, I've been away. How much are these buttons?
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#180866 - 08/10/2003 07:51 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: andym]
morrisdl
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Registered: 21/08/2000
Posts: 346
Loc: Rochester, NY USA
I dont think they exist yet (and I havnt seen a price)...

Keep up the great work guys...you never know what color the next car's interior lighting will be.
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#180867 - 08/10/2003 08:28 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: morrisdl]
cookie_77
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Registered: 08/03/2002
Posts: 145
I would also be up for a set of smoked buttons and the required leds.

Thanks

C.

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#180868 - 08/10/2003 08:48 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: andym]
maczrool
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Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Price is not yet determined, but they will be a little more than Brian's.

Stu
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#180869 - 08/10/2003 23:28 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
Guschti
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Registered: 08/05/2002
Posts: 35
Loc: Zurich, Switzerland
blue and smoke for me.

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#180870 - 19/10/2003 18:25 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
We recently received an e-mail from the plastics caster. In part it read:

The first half of the mold is poured and cured. I need to pour the second half. I hope to accomplish this tomorrow or Tuesday.

Hopefully we'll have something to test soon!

Stu
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#180871 - 19/10/2003 21:16 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
BAKup
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Registered: 11/11/2001
Posts: 552
Loc: Houston, TX
Put me down for a set of smoked...I've got these leds installed, but not able to see them yet.
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#180872 - 20/10/2003 05:10 Sub-thread: Brian [Re: BAKup]
pgrzelak
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Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

Sorry to abduct your thread, but has anyone heard from Brian lately? He basically vanished, and no one seems to know if he is still around, etc.
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#180873 - 20/10/2003 19:46 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
FireFox31
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Registered: 19/09/2002
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Loc: East Coast, USA
Are you considering Green buttons?

I'm hoping for Darkstorm Dark Green color. But if you make one of each original empeg color, then how well does the original green match the Darkstorm Dark Green or Darkstorm Neon Green?

And are you trying to match the smoke buttons to the Darkstorm Smoke (because that's the only smoke ever created right? Or has Mach made one yet? And does Mach's match Darkstorm's?).

Oh, and lastly, how does one "get the glow" these days if Brian isn't shipping the LED packs and resistors? Is someone doing the installs because I swear I've seen people mention that their "empeg is off to get the glow."

Thanks! Remember, dark green!
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#180874 - 20/10/2003 20:08 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: FireFox31]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
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Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
Eutronix is doing the installs these days. You can either buy a kit and do it yourself, or add their installation service to your purchase.

Mach does have smoke. 3 shades infact! Here is a little comparison chart.
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#180875 - 21/10/2003 08:30 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: FireFox31]
maczrool
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In reply to:

Are you considering Green buttons?

I'm hoping for Darkstorm Dark Green color. But if you make one of each original empeg color, then how well does the original green match the Darkstorm Dark Green or Darkstorm Neon Green?

And are you trying to match the smoke buttons to the Darkstorm Smoke (because that's the only smoke ever created right? Or has Mach made one yet? And does Mach's match Darkstorm's?).

Oh, and lastly, how does one "get the glow" these days if Brian isn't shipping the LED packs and resistors? Is someone doing the installs because I swear I've seen people mention that their "empeg is off to get the glow."




We sent in the original factory lenses in all 4 colors plus Darkstorm smoke to have color matched. These will be the intial offerings, but other materials and colors should follow. There may even be a custom color option.

Yes, Eutronix is making the electronics and offering the installation service for the light kits. I believe Mark Lord in Canada at least used to install them as well as Rob S in Europe.

Stu
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#180876 - 21/10/2003 11:05 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
tfabris
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We sent in the original factory lenses in all 4 colors plus Darkstorm smoke to have color matched.
What about the fact that the button LEDs glow white and the VFD glows green? Was that taken into account? For instance, Brian's smoke buttons are cool, but I've found that his green buttons are a better match for the smoke display.

I think it's actually cool-looking to have different colors for the buttons and for the display, but some folks might want them to be the same.
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#180877 - 21/10/2003 11:30 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: tfabris]
maczrool
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We've thought about it, but haven't really come up with a solution. We'll have to see what this caster's smoke material looks like when we get samples.

Stu
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#180878 - 23/10/2003 19:26 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
FireFox31
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Loc: East Coast, USA
Stu,

Thanks for the updates, I appreciate it.

Kinda throwing the thread off topic a bit, but:
IF the new buttons come out, I want to be ready by having my lights already installed. Since you do the lights, would I get any benefit from having the light kit installed with the stock buttons? Or would it be a risk to spend the $110 and have the colored buttons not come to fruition?

Lastly, how long do you think it would take to get the buttons installed, round trip empeg shipping and all, from me in New Jersey? Thanks, and sorry for throwing off the thread (though it is kinda advertising for the other necessary component in the "lit button" kit).
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#180879 - 23/10/2003 19:59 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: FireFox31]
maczrool
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Loc: Louisiana, USA
In reply to:

IF the new buttons come out, I want to be ready by having my lights already installed. Since you do the lights, would I get any benefit from having the light kit installed with the stock buttons? Or would it be a risk to spend the $110 and have the colored buttons not come to fruition?




They better come out! We put a fair amount of money into the molds the caster is working on. Not much is gained from lighting the stock buttons and knobs unless holes are drilled to let out the light. It's up to you.

In reply to:

how long do you think it would take to get the buttons installed, round trip empeg shipping and all, from me in New Jersey?




10 business days roundtrip via UPS ground including 2 for installation.

Stu

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#180880 - 24/10/2003 02:23 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
ravetek
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Registered: 09/04/2002
Posts: 39
I really, really, just need a set of matte black buttons. I do not plan on doing
any type of illumination modification- and I really just want a set of black buttons
to match my existing OEM lay-out. Can anyone hook it up?

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#180881 - 24/10/2003 08:18 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: ravetek]
maczrool
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The caster has said that he can do just about any color or material in small quantities, so black can probably be arranged.

This isn't the best solution, but you could also paint them black.

Stu
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#180882 - 24/10/2003 08:22 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
pgrzelak
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In most cases, the smoke buttons look black (and match the fascia) if they are not backlit. In bright light, they have a slight reddish-brown tinge. These are based on Brian's buttons, but just saying that you may not need to have a special "black" casting.
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#180883 - 24/10/2003 11:21 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: pgrzelak]
tfabris
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Paul's right. In fact, Brian's Blue and Green buttons look very close to black as well (when unlit).
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#180884 - 28/10/2003 15:41 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: tfabris]
maczrool
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We've just been informed that sample castings will be shipped out to us tomorrow. I'll post pictures later.

Stu
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#180885 - 28/10/2003 17:48 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
COOOOOL!!!!
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#180886 - 31/10/2003 14:02 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
Narkotic
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Registered: 20/02/2002
Posts: 158
I'd love a set of buttons that appear dark/blackish when unlit, and amber when lit. that would be awesome!

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#180887 - 07/11/2003 11:24 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
Ruffles
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Registered: 29/03/2000
Posts: 106
Loc: Seattle, WA
How did the buttons turn out? Any idea when I'll be able to buy a set of smoke?

Thanks!

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#180888 - 07/11/2003 13:15 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: Ruffles]
maczrool
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Loc: Louisiana, USA
In reply to:

How did the buttons turn out?




I wish I knew . They should have been here by now. My efforts to contact the company have been fruitless this week. Hopefully I can get an explanation, although it likely is a family issue, which he has brought up before.

Really, I promise to post pictures when there is something to take a picture of. If he can get his act together, I don't see why we couldn't have smoke buttons available within 6 weeks.

Stu
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#180889 - 08/11/2003 03:39 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
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Hopefully I can get an explanation, although it likely is a family issue, which he has brought up before.

Anyone else get the impression that creating replacement plastic parts for the empeg is something of a jinxed occupation ? Everyone who embarks on it seems to eventually dissappear into the ether in the end.
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#180890 - 08/11/2003 11:32 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: andy]
maczrool
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Loc: Louisiana, USA
In reply to:

Everyone who embarks on it seems to eventually dissappear into the ether in the end.




He will eventually surface again. I just talked to him last week. But speaking of disappearing, has anyone looked the the Casting Fool and Son website lately? There is no longer any mention of their services!

Stu
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