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#210818 - 24/03/2004 16:13 Question For The WRX People
Chuck
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Registered: 06/06/2001
Posts: 183
I'm about join the WRX crowd and was wondering what a good price would be for a sedan with these options:

No Spoiler
Security System Upgrade
Guage Pack
Armrest Extension

I'm getting conflicting quotes and trying to figure out who is on the up-and-up...

Thanks,
-Chuck

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#210819 - 24/03/2004 16:57 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: Chuck]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3824
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
What year?
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#210820 - 24/03/2004 17:20 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: loren]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3824
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
I'll just assume you are talking about an '04 Sedan....

You should be able to get a stock WRX for invoice easy, under if you shop around. For the extras, go to the Subaru website, find their cost as options, and cut them in half at least and tack that on to invoice and you should have a decent price.

There is also $500 factory to dealer incentive running right now along with the $750 buyer cash or 1.9% financing if i remember correctly. So you could easily get what you have listed for invoice or below.

Some people are reporting getting new '04s with options for 20k, invoice is around 22k.

check this forum at i-club.com
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#210821 - 24/03/2004 17:47 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: Chuck]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
What's a guage? (Sorry. Pet peeve.)
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#210822 - 24/03/2004 19:54 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: Chuck]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
In addition to what Loren said..

I suggest getting your options through http://www.subaruparts.com/. You will save big time.on the security system and arm rest extention. Personally, I'd not get the arm rest extension if you plan on ever getting a short-shifter or like to do aggressive shifting because it might get in the way... sit in both and see what you like.

In the Subaru community, it's generally agreed upon that the OEM gauge pack is junk. I'd save your money and get an aftermarket one. You really don't need those guages until you start modifying your car anyway, and what better time to get some that you can actually read?

Finally, I'd recommend going to www.nasioc.com and seeing the "Regional Forums" and meet people from your area. They are generally very nice. You'll meet people that will work on your car with you and who have a lot of experience. I gotten thousands of dollars in labor done to my car for free from local club members. They've also recommended local dealerships, vendors and shops. Most clubs have weekly meets too so you can see all those cool mods in person.

Oh yeah, welcome to the club.
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#210823 - 24/03/2004 23:39 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: Chuck]
jimhogan
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Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
I'm getting conflicting quotes and trying to figure out who is on the up-and-up...

Are you effectively paying cash? No trade-in and paying with cash or a check from an outside lender?
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#210824 - 25/03/2004 00:48 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3824
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Ditto to what Brad said on all accounts. Nasioc.com and i-club.com are noisy with repeat questions, but are chock full of info, not to mention scoobymods.com which is a great collection of install how tos and faqs.
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#210825 - 25/03/2004 09:29 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
ithoughti
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Registered: 17/07/2001
Posts: 721
Loc: Boston, MA USA
I'm going to have to agree with what Brad said about the gauge option. I spent the $600 on them when I got my car, and instantly wished I hadn't. You can get much better aftermarket ones from a variety of sources for much less money. I also agree about leaving off the armrest extension, it just gets in the way. The one option that I am very happy with is the auto-dim mirror.

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#210826 - 25/03/2004 13:05 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: wfaulk]
Chuck
member

Registered: 06/06/2001
Posts: 183
Doh! I so deserve that because I know better.

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#210827 - 25/03/2004 13:12 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: Chuck]
Chuck
member

Registered: 06/06/2001
Posts: 183
Just a note of thanks to Loren, Brad, Matt and the others for the replies. Thanks for all the info! I spent a lot a time reading it over last night and this morning. To top it all off, I received an email today from a saleman who's in touch with reality, so I'll be picking up my new WRX tomorrow evening.

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#210828 - 25/03/2004 13:42 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: Chuck]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3824
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Congrats! You'll love it. What exactly did you end up getting?

I'm going to be taking the new wheel and tire plunge in a couple of weeks for my wagon. If you're into modding at all it's a money pit... watch out! =]
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#210829 - 25/03/2004 14:03 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: Chuck]
cmtempeg
journeyman

Registered: 29/07/2003
Posts: 66
Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
Congrats!! Depending on the weather where you live, you are going to REALLY dig the AWD. I live in Minnesota, and in the snow and on icy roads, AWD is night and day.

I picked up my A4 a few weeks ago. Before I made my decision, I was debating between a new WRX and a used A4. I wanted a 4-door AWD sedan that. I ended up going with the (slower but still fun) Audi because I liked the interior (the little VW niceties help) and the extra options the A4 I found had (heated seats, leather interior, xenon, premium audio).

Let us know how you like the WRX!


PS. If you see me on the street, don't try to race me... until I get an ECU chip installed
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#210830 - 25/03/2004 14:32 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: loren]
Chuck
member

Registered: 06/06/2001
Posts: 183
I opted for a 2004 Silver WRX Sedan M/T.

I'm about to order 17x7.5 wheels for it now, I'm just trying to decide on tires.

And then I have to do the stereo... I don't even know what speakers will fit in the doors... Any hints?

I have a 1999 S10 that I put a Corvette LT1-V8 into, parked in the garage, so I'm not into modding at all.

-Chuck

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#210831 - 25/03/2004 14:36 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: cmtempeg]
Chuck
member

Registered: 06/06/2001
Posts: 183
I live in Texas, so I don't really think I'll have a problem with snow and icy roads.

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#210832 - 25/03/2004 14:59 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: Chuck]
cmtempeg
journeyman

Registered: 29/07/2003
Posts: 66
Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
And then I have to do the stereo... I don't even know what speakers will fit in the doors... Any hints?

No idea. Best bet is to get a manual for it (Bentley?) or find a Subie message board and ask around. Hmm I guess you could ask the dealer as well...

I have a 1999 S10 that I put a Corvette LT1-V8 into, parked in the garage, so I'm not into modding at all.

Haha, sweet

Enjoy!
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#210833 - 25/03/2004 16:08 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: Chuck]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3824
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
What wheels are you getting? Tires... i'm currently deciding between this set: Bridgstone Potenza S-03, Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3, Michelin Pilot Sport A/S or PS2. Tough choice.

As for speakers, you can fit 6.5"s up front but the depth is incredibly shallow. You'll probably need spacers. I got mine from this guy.
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#210834 - 25/03/2004 16:18 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: loren]
frog51
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2089
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
Get the Bridgestones if you like a solid feel and more control over the breakaway.
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#210835 - 25/03/2004 16:47 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: frog51]
cmtempeg
journeyman

Registered: 29/07/2003
Posts: 66
Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
Speaking of breakaway, when dropping the clutch in a WRX, do all four tires engage immediately? I understand Subie uses Viscous Coupling AWD and that it can take a few revolutions before all four tires have torque.

Also, when dropping the clutch will the tires bark? All four?
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#210836 - 25/03/2004 16:48 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: frog51]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3824
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Yeah, everyone seems to LOVE those tires, they're at the top of my list. The big concern with me is noise and ride comfort... my car spends 80% of it's time commuting on the highway. I haven't spent time reading reviews yet.
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#210837 - 25/03/2004 16:57 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: cmtempeg]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3824
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Don't drop the clutch unless you want to kill your transmission/clutch real quick. There's so many stories of blown clutches and gears on the forums from people dumping at 5k it's scary. From what i've read it's pretty hard to chirp the tires... i've never tried and i wouldn't want to. The transmission isn't known for being the strongest.
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#210838 - 25/03/2004 17:09 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: Chuck]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Here's a little info on my empeg install... Jim Hogan was a big help on cutting the bezel.

If you had an option to add 30hp to your WRX and get better fuel economy, a "valet" mode to make your car safe for valet parking, an anti-theft kill switch and OBDII code reader for $555, would you get it? Oh yeah, it requires no tools or hardware changes to your car. If so, check this. Mine's on order. It is simply the coolest thing ever for a stock WRX. And if you do change things like exhaust or turbo, you simply tell this handheld device what you've done and "bam" your car is tuned for it. (It's not the same as a custom dyno tune, but that will be an option in a month and you only pay the differance). 100% safe.
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#210839 - 25/03/2004 18:42 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3824
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Argh... i'm still stuck deciding between Vishnu and an AccessPort. Vishnu is local and their hardware is bombproof, which is why i'm leaning their way despite the cost. I figure by the time i can do it near the end of the summer, they'll have some sort of answer for the accessport... at least a price drop.
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#210840 - 25/03/2004 19:45 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: loren]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
I respect Vishnu, and they get points for being local to you (my factor for choosing Godspeed). But Cobb gets points for being "Subaru Only" as well.. FWIW, Vishnu didn't code their reflash, they've licensed it and that's why it's expensive... Both are way far from Detroit, so I went Cobb.

Cobb used to be in Texas I think...
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#210841 - 26/03/2004 02:11 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: loren]
ithoughti
old hand

Registered: 17/07/2001
Posts: 721
Loc: Boston, MA USA
Loren-

have you looked at the Kumho Ecsta MX for tires? I got them last spring and I love them. Great buy for the money. Although I would have liked the S-03's, but for almost $175 per I couldn't justify the expense. The MX's track a bit but the grip is unreal. I can't wait to put my summer wheels back on!


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#210842 - 26/03/2004 12:00 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: ithoughti]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3824
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Yeah, i ran Ecstas on my Civic for a while. They were just too loud for me... and i've been hearing the same from other scooby owners. $175 is a farkton of money per tire... more than i've ever spent for sure. But tires are probably one of the most important things to spend the cash on, especially once i really start pushing the car. haha... not that i'm trying to talk myself into them or anything...
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#210843 - 26/03/2004 12:07 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: loren]
ithoughti
old hand

Registered: 17/07/2001
Posts: 721
Loc: Boston, MA USA
They were just too loud for me...


That's what the empeg is for silly.


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#210844 - 26/03/2004 14:35 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: ithoughti]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
My new car -- not a Subaru, sorry -- came with Pirelli P-Zeros and the thing that bothers me the most about them is the tracking. Drives me nuts. Every weekday I drive across this piece of road where old lane dividers were gouged out and it pulls my car. Incredibly annoying. Moreso than the noise (which honestly isn't too bad despite the bad reviews over at TireRack), but I'd almost like to trade that tracking and pay with it with more noise.
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#210845 - 26/03/2004 14:50 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: loren]
DLF
addict

Registered: 24/07/2003
Posts: 500
Loc: Colorado, N.A.
Add my ditto on the S-03 Pole Positions. They're the only tires I like as well on the street as I do on my local, 1.7-mile road course. YMMV.

'03 WRX
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#210846 - 26/03/2004 20:13 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: wfaulk]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3824
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
I drive across this piece of road where old lane dividers were gouged out and it pulls my car
Funny you should say that. I was just thinking about that on the way home. They've done that nearly the entire way from the N. side of the Golden Gate through Marin... it drives me nuts on my stockers. I can't wait to get some tires that will really grip and drive me more nuts. You'd think they'd have a better system than cutting a huge groove in the highway.
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#210847 - 26/03/2004 20:36 Re: Question For The WRX People [Re: loren]
Chuck
member

Registered: 06/06/2001
Posts: 183
I went with the BBS RGR, the clean and classic good looks just kept calling my name. I'm still un-decided on the tires...

Thanks for the link to IA, that's dead on what I was looking for!

-Chuck

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