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#220023 - 12/05/2001 00:41 HPNA under Linux?
phaigh
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Registered: 04/11/1999
Posts: 649
Loc: Reading, UK
I was thinking about my setup at home that I'll have when I get a Receiver.

I'm intending to run the server on Linux - can I support the HPNA adapter under Linux as well?

This may be a significant sticking point - I might end up having to go wireless ethernet in the end.

Paul.

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#220024 - 12/05/2001 08:17 Re: HPNA under Linux? [Re: phaigh]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3452
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
Linux HPNA drivers exist (we obviously had the source to get them working with the receiver) but they've never been released.

You could try asking broadcom, but it would be a binary-only release in module form. I don't think our contract allows us to give it out, unfortunately. The source is pretty proprietary as a lot of the sub-IP retransmission & link management functions are implemented in the driver and not the silicon.

Hugo



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#220025 - 12/05/2001 10:10 Re: HPNA under Linux? [Re: altman]
phaigh
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Registered: 04/11/1999
Posts: 649
Loc: Reading, UK
Pity,

Binary only doesn't particularly bother me, as long as it works.

I'll try speaking to BroadCom (who make the cards I guess) and see what I get (a blank response most likely).

Pity, since the wireless ethernet is costly!

Paul.

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#220026 - 13/05/2001 06:44 Re: HPNA under Linux? [Re: phaigh]
mardibloke
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Registered: 14/08/2000
Posts: 468
Loc: Penarth, UK
IMHO Wireless Ethernet for home, is now affordable and decent enough speed for most applications.

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#220027 - 23/08/2001 05:48 Re: HPNA under Linux? [Re: mardibloke]
jason
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Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 28
Has anyone gotten this working? I just bought two rio receivers (at bestbuy in
Newington, NH) yesterday, and would like to set one up in my bedroom (which
doesn't currently have any ethernet run to it). I do have wireless in the house,
but this solution will probably be much cheaper than buying another wireless
bridge.

In addition, an even nastier thought: does HPNA work with phone-line-over-AC
extenders that modulate the phone signal over your house power lines?


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#220028 - 23/08/2001 09:47 Re: HPNA under Linux? [Re: jason]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31141
Loc: Seattle, WA
You could just run the Receiver Manager software on a Windows server with an HPNA card, and then HPNA should work fine. Are you saying that Linux is a requirement for you?

I wouldn't count on the phone-line-over AC working with HPNA. I'm pretty sure you need the physical connection for HPNA to work. The AC stuff only works for low-frequency, low-bandwidth signals I'm guessing.

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#220029 - 23/08/2001 09:55 Re: HPNA under Linux? [Re: tfabris]
jason
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Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 28
Yes, linux is a requirement. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear on that...

Hopefully someone has done it, and has a quick how-to. If not, I'll start digging myself, and let y'all know if I succeed.

Regarding the phone-line-over-AC, my assuption is that is wouldn't work. But, I figured I'd ask anyways. I don't have the hardware to test, myself. I suspect there may be some kind of warning in the HPNA documentation...

-j


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#220030 - 24/08/2001 06:03 Re: HPNA under Linux? [Re: jason]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3452
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
I've heard that linksys have released linux drivers that will drive (almost any, I suspect) PCI hpna2.0 card. Try ftp.linksys.com. The card is the HP200, I seem to remember that for no adequately explained reason, the linux driver was hidden in a dos .exe self-extractor...

No source, but better than nothing.

Hugo



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#220031 - 24/08/2001 06:27 Re: HPNA under Linux? [Re: altman]
jason
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Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 28
Thanks, Hugo. I found the same info from some google searching.

For the benefit of others: You can find the driver at ftp://ftp.linksys.com/beta/linux_full_binary_2_33.exe
which uses a dos/win unpacker that makes you agree to a standard license before it unpacks two modules and a readme. The contents of the latter:


Linux Release 2_33

Linux network device driver for the Broadcom BCM42XX PCI
InsideLine 10Mbps Home Phoneline Networking chip.

This release includes:
- support for HPNA 2.0 Certification Testing
- MODVERSIONS support for Linux 2.2 and 2.4 Kernels. These
modules have been compiled and tested with MODVERSIONS defined
on a RedHat 6.2 system with include files from the RedHat
2.2.14-5.0 kernel. The driver for the 2.4 kernel uses the
2.4.0-test10 kernel distribution from ftp.kernel.org.

Note: The kernels should be compiled with nonSMP

This distribution includes two il.o executables:

- \Kernel_2.2.14-5.0\il.o ---> 62545 bytes (nonSMP)
- \Kernel_2.4.0-Test10\il.o ---> 70695 bytes (nonSMP)


I should get a chance to try this out in a week or so. I'll let others know if I succeed.
(Let's just hope I have a free PCI slot in my only non-SMP machine...)

-j


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