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#228234 - 26/07/2004 15:25 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: RobotCaleb]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Huh? SET just displays and sets variables, doesn't it?
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#228235 - 26/07/2004 15:37 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: wfaulk]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
pertinent thread

was the best i could come up with. i feel lost without google.

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#228236 - 26/07/2004 15:55 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: RobotCaleb]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
So the gist I get is that there is no portable way to do it in Windows? Seems CHOICE.COM doesn't come with Windows so not everyone will have it, and SET /p wasn't added until 2K/XP. Is that right?

I think when I wrote my batch file a while back, I came to the conclusion that "yes, that is right" and I used the "portable" (read: hackish) method of using DEL /p. I can't imagine that's the problem with the people whose config.inis aren't being updated, though. I'd like to know what is...
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#228237 - 26/07/2004 16:34 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: tonyc]
rearviewmirror
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Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 84
Loc: Bangalore, India
Hi Tony,

After selecting emphatic from the hijack menu, I see the following in hyperterminal:

In AC mode:
hijack: removed menu entry: "emphatic"

In forced DC mode:
[nothing]

Thanks,
~Yogi

PS: I don't have a way of connecting a laptop in car. And, I didn't run the install script that came with emphatic. I went through the script, ran the FTP commands from a command prompt, and edited the config.ini using jEmplode (added reservecache and @exec). Could that have screwed things up?

*edit* emphatic doesn't work in forced DC mode (blank screen)


Edited by rearviewmirror (26/07/2004 16:36)

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#228238 - 26/07/2004 16:46 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: tonyc]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
My stock Win2k install has CHOICE. I don't have anything else to check right now.
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#228239 - 27/07/2004 01:18 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: tonyc]
newguy1
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Registered: 26/01/2002
Posts: 278
Loc: Massachusetts,USA
I am running windows 2K.
When I force DC at home I get a blank screen and player freezes.
When I force AC in the car it works great.Almost drove off road trying all the new features
Couple of things I noticed:The visuals freeze when changing volume(is that by design?) and sometimes the new style volume and the original appear at the same time.(that may be due to me having the config ini. set to do 2 vol presses up and 3 vol presses down)



Edit;Maybe we can get the Admin to open a new forum just for Emphatic


Edited by newguy1 (27/07/2004 01:23)

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#228240 - 27/07/2004 02:31 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: newguy1]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
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The visuals freeze when changing volume(is that by design?)

Yes, he's hiding the real user interface. There's no way he can make the real volume bar disappear, so he freezes the background screen on the visuals while you're changing the volume.
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#228241 - 27/07/2004 09:17 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: tfabris]
sn00p
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Registered: 24/07/2002
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Loc: South London
Surely want we want then is a build of the player without the user interface?! I'm guessing most things could be achieved with that.

Adrian

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#228242 - 27/07/2004 11:01 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: newguy1]
rearviewmirror
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Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 84
Loc: Bangalore, India
I'm using it in car, in forced AC mode too. While I'm thrilled with how emphatic works, I'm slightly annoyed that I've to power off the player every time I cut off the ignition. It's a small price to pay though!

On a tangent, Tony, I uploaded a couple of files using the batch upload (first one was named artist - album - title.lrc, and second one was artist - title.lrc). But the title does not appear to have been inserted correctly. Url is http://www.lrcdb.com/artist.php?aid=115

Thanks,
~Yogi

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#228243 - 27/07/2004 15:27 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: rearviewmirror]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Thanks for the info. I will take a look at the DC mode issues when I get home tomorrow. My player *definitely* works in the car in DC mode, to the tune of an 11 hour drive up here to visit my family. So I'm not even sure how I'll diagnose this one.

Actually maybe it'll help if I can get some more serial output. Can one of you who is having DC problems start in forced DC mode and run emphatic with the following:

emphatic --debug 5

That should at least (hopefully) tell us where it's crapping out.

Incidentally, why didn't you just use the install script? If you did the install steps properly then it doesn't matter, but were you scared of something in my script?
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#228244 - 27/07/2004 15:30 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: wfaulk]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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My stock Win2k install has CHOICE. I don't have anything else to check right now.
Yeah, but still, my DEL /p thing should have worked.
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#228245 - 27/07/2004 15:32 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: newguy1]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Edit;Maybe we can get the Admin to open a new forum just for Emphatic

Nah, I have a post count ranking here that I have to protect.

Maybe once this thread lives out its usefulness as an introduction and so forth I'll open up some threads over in Programming. But I don't think my app needs its own forum here.

As for the volume bar, I am indeed freezing the background. Sometimes, when I go to do that, the real volume bar has already appeared. Other than storing an old frame from 0.5 seconds ago or something (which is rather hackish) I don't think I can do anything about it, as I can't tell when the volume bar is going to appear.


Edited by tonyc (27/07/2004 15:34)
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#228246 - 27/07/2004 15:36 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: sn00p]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Surely want we want then is a build of the player without the user interface?! I'm guessing most things could be achieved with that.

Adrian

I don't think such a thing would fall too high in the priorities of the dev team. As a matter of fact, they haven't even responded to my requests to redistribute player fonts. So they seem to be quite busy.
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#228247 - 27/07/2004 15:40 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: rearviewmirror]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Quote:

On a tangent, Tony, I uploaded a couple of files using the batch upload (first one was named artist - album - title.lrc, and second one was artist - title.lrc). But the title does not appear to have been inserted correctly. Url is http://www.lrcdb.com/artist.php?aid=115

Thanks,
~Yogi

From my post earlier in the thread:

"The lyrics NEED to have [artist:Foo] and [title:Bar] tags at the top with the batch uploads, though. I plan on making this more obvious on the site soon."

The tags need to be in the LRC file itself, like this:

[artist:Pearl Jam]
[title:rearviewmirror]
[album:vs.]

If you did put those tags in, then it should pick them up. I do have some code for parsing the info out of the filenames IF those tags aren't present, but since everyone names their LRCs differently, I don't expect that to work very often.

I've deleted the bogus records in the database, try uploading again.
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#228248 - 27/07/2004 17:38 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: tonyc]
sn00p
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Registered: 24/07/2002
Posts: 618
Loc: South London
I'm well aware of that! It was more a tounge in cheek comment, maybe I should have added a winky smiley.

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#228249 - 28/07/2004 02:40 crash [Re: tonyc]
kday
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Registered: 05/01/2002
Posts: 40
Loc: Boston, MA
Hi -

I've never installed emphatic before. No luck so far. A few issues:

- I had to remove the "echo pass ...." part of install-emphatic.sh. For whatever reason passive mode doesn't work on mine.
- I didn't end up with ReserveCache=10 in my /empeg/var/config.ini. I added it manually, as without it I was getting do_try_to_free_pages errors from the VM system and eventually a kernel crash.
- After rebooting, I entered the hijack menu and selected emphatic. Had a problem:

Oops! Music FID ffffffff1 not found!
fid file not found, line 145
Oops! Music FID ffffffff0 not found!
fid file not found, line 290
emphatic(11): memory violation at pc=0x02003624, lr=0x4002810c (bad address=0x0
pc : [<02003624>] lr : [<4002810c>]
sp : bffffc04 ip : bffffad8 fp : bffffe28
r10: 40145128 r9 : 0200254c r8 : 0204b5ac
r7 : 02001e80 r6 : 4000c2a8 r5 : 00000001 r4 : 0205ea2c
r3 : 0205eaa8 r2 : 00000000 r1 : 02063c90 r0 : 00000000



I didn't select the initialize ratings option in the config, if that's related.

The whole log is attached.

Let me know if there's anything you want me to try.


Attachments
227574-y (197 downloads)


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#228250 - 28/07/2004 02:42 Re: crash [Re: kday]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
I'd be shocked if ReserveCache=10 left enough memory for emphatic. Try 15, or maybe 20.

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#228251 - 28/07/2004 21:55 Re: crash [Re: kday]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Quote:

Oops! Music FID ffffffff1 not found!


I might be mistaken, but I think this happens if you don't have "notify=1" in your [output] section of the config.ini. Of course, my install script should do this for you, but it doesn't, because I forgot. That will be fixed in the next release.

Is that the problem? If you do in fact have notify=1 in there, then I'll have to investigate further.
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#228252 - 29/07/2004 03:18 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: tonyc]
rearviewmirror
journeyman

Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 84
Loc: Bangalore, India
Ran emphatic in debug mode, at home. In forced AC mode, everything was fine. After hijack printed "removed menu entry: "emphatic"", emphatic printed some debug statements like 'new track', 'horizontal lyrics' etc. I guess it was printing the available views from the xml file. Not reproducing it here, 'cos everything ran fine.

In forced DC mode, hijack did not print anything when emphatic was selected. There were no debug statements written by emphatic either. Basically there was no activity on the serial output. This makes me believe that hijack did not invoke emphatic in DC mode.

I'm using 2.0 beta 13, and hijack v402.

About the install script, I was curious as to what it was doing. When I saw that it involved FTPing some files, changing their permissions, and modifying the config.ini, thought I'd do it myself. No dis-respect to your scripting abilites Tony, I am a creature of habit, and was more comfortable editing config.ini using jEmplode -:)

~Yogi

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#228253 - 29/07/2004 11:34 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: rearviewmirror]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14478
Loc: Canada
You did, of course, set the car rate to 115200 (matching the home rate) on the serial port, before doing the DC mode test.. right?

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#228254 - 30/07/2004 00:02 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: tonyc]
newguy1
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Registered: 26/01/2002
Posts: 278
Loc: Massachusetts,USA
Quote:
Incidentally, why didn't you just use the install script? If you did the install steps properly then it doesn't matter, but were you scared of something in my script?

I used the install script but nothing got changed in config. Thats why I had to manually add some settings.
As far as the notify =1 setting Does it matter what section it goes under?IE Hijack, Player, Startup?
Anyway it does work in AC mode and forced AC in car.
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#228255 - 30/07/2004 00:03 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: newguy1]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14478
Loc: Canada
[output]
notify=1


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#228256 - 30/07/2004 00:47 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: mlord]
newguy1
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Registered: 26/01/2002
Posts: 278
Loc: Massachusetts,USA
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[output]
notify=1

Oh yes,thanks I do have it that way, just didn't know if it needed to go under any particular section of config ini.
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#228257 - 30/07/2004 02:45 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: tonyc]
kswish0
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Registered: 06/02/2002
Posts: 212
Loc: Virginia, USA
I just tried installing this using the .bat file. It created the folder that I specified for it but didnt put the program in it. It just left the folder empty. It also didn't edit my config.ini. To manually install this, can i just put the emphatic executable on my player, make it executable (chmod 755?) then add what I need to my config.ini? If so, what do I need to add to my config.ini to make it work?

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#228258 - 30/07/2004 03:10 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: kswish0]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
I think this is because I was stupid in the BAT file and was changing to (or trying to change to) the directory BEFORE I created it. The net result is the emphatic binary and XML are probably somewhere else on your player, possibly in the root directory.

Try running the BAT file a second time, but choose N on all of the questions except the last one which does the install. Version 2.01 will be out soon with a fixed batch file. And some new features.
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#228259 - 31/07/2004 02:06 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: tonyc]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Updated the FAQ entry about Emphatic, and gave Emphatic its rightful place at the top header of the BBS. Enjoy.
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#228260 - 31/07/2004 14:18 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: tfabris]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Very much appreciated. But could you change it to a lowercase "e"?
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#228261 - 31/07/2004 16:25 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: tfabris]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3582
Loc: Columbus, OH
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rightful place at the top header of the BBS.


Not showing up for me...but it was earlier. Weird.

EDIT: Doh!.. didn't notice it got moved to the top line...nevermind.


Edited by JBjorgen (31/07/2004 16:26)
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#228262 - 31/07/2004 16:59 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: JBjorgen]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Yeah, makes more sense up there with the other software stuff (Hijack, jEmplode) than with the hardware projects.
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#228263 - 01/08/2004 04:11 Re: And for my 5,000th post... Announcing emphatic v2.00 and lrcDB! [Re: tonyc]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
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Wow, very nice.

Would you like me to add some ioctls for bass and treble?
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