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#241590 - 11/02/2005 21:07 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: petteri]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Well, it is not that different from a stock PT Cruiser radio...
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#241591 - 14/02/2005 02:00 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: webroach]
tracerbullet
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Registered: 08/01/2002
Posts: 419
Loc: Minnesota
Just wanted say that this looks great and I'll be one of many eagerly waiting for them to go on sale!

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#241592 - 17/02/2005 21:58 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: frog51]
Qtqc
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Registered: 12/02/2004
Posts: 87
I never seen that web site before, to bad it didn't work out.
Anyway, cant wait for the new Polished Fascias to be ready

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#241593 - 18/02/2005 01:14 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: Qtqc]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
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Loc: Colorado
I may have something to show you fairly shortly then.

We're still in a little bit of a holding pattern, but Brandon told me yesterday that he's been doing a bit of a test with the polishing on one of our blanks. I'll see if I can get him over here for a picture of it ASAP.
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#241594 - 19/02/2005 00:54 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: webroach]
Qtqc
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Registered: 12/02/2004
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Cant wait,

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#241595 - 26/02/2005 21:27 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: webroach]
Qtqc
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Registered: 12/02/2004
Posts: 87
Hey Webroach, any luck with those pics or any news on the progress. As you can tell Im really excited!

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#241596 - 28/02/2005 08:24 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: webroach]
JaBZ
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Loc: NZ
Great stuff, keep up the good work, I'll be interested in a couple sets..

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#241597 - 28/02/2005 14:14 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: Qtqc]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
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Loc: Colorado
Ok, first off, sorry about the lack of updates; school is, to put it simply, kicking my ass (18 credit hours of Japanese and Linguistics courses will do that to you). Also, not much had happened progress-wise.

Brandon just called and said some machine time had opened up at the shop. We're going to try to get in on it, and get the test fascias machined. After we do that, we'll have to make sure everything is right, then we can start taking orders.

I know this sounds like more of the same, and for that I'm genuinely sorry, but it's what I have. We have to make sure everything is 100% correct before asking anyone to exchange money for them.

Below is a (characteristically poor) photo of a very rough test polish Brandon did on one of the fascias. And yes, we both know that's the back he polished. Remember, it was a test. The final polished ones will be muchmore polished, if not simply chromed for simplicity's sake.



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#241598 - 28/02/2005 14:18 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: webroach]
webroach
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Loc: Colorado
Also, I want to thank everyone for their kind words about our work. It's very much appreciated, and it's very encouraging to know people are interested and excited.

Another little bit of good news I forgot to mention is that handles look to be coming along well, and should be available at the same time as the fascias.
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#241599 - 28/02/2005 14:31 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: webroach]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
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Loc: Canada
Are the mounting screws countersunk in the face, as per the original fascia, or do they project fully on the surface?

cheers

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#241600 - 28/02/2005 15:07 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: mlord]
webroach
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No worries, they'll be completely countersunk. Well, flush with the surface, anyways. That feature has to be machined, as the water-cutting process is unable to do a depth cut. So the holes you see are actually very close to the diameter of the mounting screw shaft.
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#241601 - 28/02/2005 15:07 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: mlord]
Qtqc
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Registered: 12/02/2004
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Webroach, Firstly you dont have to appologize about anything, I think everyone appreciates the work you and your friend put in.
Secondly, the fascia's look awesome, as I said tons of times already, I cant wait for the finished product.

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#241602 - 28/02/2005 16:00 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: Qtqc]
matthew_k
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Registered: 12/02/2002
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Loc: Berkeley, California
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Webroach, Firstly you dont have to appologize about anything, I think everyone appreciates the work you and your friend put in.
Secondly, the fascia's look awesome, as I said tons of times already, I cant wait for the finished product.

Yeah. What he said. Don't appologize, and thanks for the hard work. I couldn't put it better myself.

Matthew

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#241603 - 28/02/2005 17:33 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: webroach]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
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Loc: Toronto, CANADA
When you first messaged me about this I decided it would be ready when it's ready. I know all about getting busy and how long even labours of love can take. Keep up the good work - looking forward to seeing it installed in my car when it's finally done.

Bruno
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#241604 - 02/03/2005 14:43 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: webroach]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
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Loc: NH USA
Quick machining terminology note: the holes for the socket head cap screws are counterbored, not countersunk. Countersunk means the bottom of the larger diameter hole would not be flat, counterbored means that it will be flat. I'm not trying to be pedantic, but if you tell a machinist countersink that hole, you just might get what you asked for, and then you would not be happy!


-Zeke
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#241605 - 02/03/2005 17:45 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: Ezekiel]
webroach
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Loc: Colorado
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I'm not trying to be pedantic....


Wouldn't mind if you were...

Either way, no worries; the shop is going off of the CAD files we've provided, not off my sloppy terminology (thankfully).

I do have good news, though. I'm going to the shop this Friday with my player, and by the time I leave, I should have a completed prototype, all details included. And that would mean....

<insert drumroll>

That we would be only one small step away from sales. We want to be able to show people what the finishes look like, so we'll wait till we get the prototypes back from the plater to open sales. But I'll post photos of the first one finished before plating.

We're getting quite close now.
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#241606 - 02/03/2005 18:36 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: webroach]
Qtqc
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Registered: 12/02/2004
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Webroach, thats great news. Any info on pricing yet or is it to early to tell?


Edited by Qtqc (02/03/2005 18:36)

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#241607 - 03/03/2005 03:58 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: Qtqc]
webroach
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Any info on pricing yet or is it to early to tell?


I realize it's got to be a pain in the ass for everyone not having a price yet, but I just think it's best to wait until we know exactly how much production costs are before we quote a price. That way we don't charge more than we need to, and we also don't have to say "Ooops! It's gonna be more than we said..."

That being said, it should be comparable to what 303 was charging. But that's off the top of my head. It won't be crazy either way. Hopefully, we'll be able to supply a product that will be worth much more than the sticker price.

We've really tried to keep an ear to the community to see what people wanted, and I hope we can deliver just that; what everyone wants.

I'll try to snap some photos at the shop on Friday, too. I'm actually really excited, because only Brandon and I know what the finished product should look like, as compared to the fairly rough state everyone has seen so far...
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#241608 - 03/03/2005 10:59 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: webroach]
stuart555
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Registered: 31/10/2003
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Loc: Edinburger, Scotland

Sounds good - i'm interested in one too!

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#241609 - 03/03/2005 13:44 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: webroach]
ukengb
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Registered: 30/04/2003
Posts: 136
Loc: United Kingdom
Only just found out about this when my emails to 'NewFace' just bounced back. What did happen to that project?

However, with the std button shapes and the apparent support from us users, I hope this will not founder.

My interest would be in plain and black anodised, one of each. Brushed or polished, don't know. Need to see examples.

But what's the latest. Any pics of the finished product, final prices, on-line store, availability schedule?

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#241610 - 04/03/2005 05:34 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: ukengb]
canuckInOR
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Registered: 13/02/2002
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But what's the latest. Any pics of the finished product, final prices, on-line store, availability schedule?

Heh. You might want to give him a bit more than 8 hours from his latest post. Things aren't going to change that quick, and he'll keep us posted when they do. Besides... he's not a bot like tfabris.

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#241611 - 04/03/2005 14:54 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: canuckInOR]
ukengb
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Wasn't trying to hassle anybody, just excited to find that there's still a possibility of getting some decent fascias. Having waded through 18 pages of this thread I'd rather lost track of what was posted when. As a 'favorite' topic now I'll know when anything is added.

But what did happen to NewFace?

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#241612 - 04/03/2005 16:08 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: ukengb]
wfaulk
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He stopped producing them claiming that he no loger had time for it. He did make a post to that effect instead of just fading away, though, so I don't think that anyone got screwed.
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#241613 - 04/03/2005 17:16 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: ukengb]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
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Wasn't trying to hassle anybody


Heh, no worries. I didn't see it that way.
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#241614 - 04/03/2005 17:32 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: webroach]
webroach
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Ok, sort of a frustrating day. We got a lot figured out, but we didn't get to finish the units today. The biggest problem we're facing is the bottons. That's a complicated area on the fascia, and is proving maddeningy difficult to machine. Not impossible, just very difficult. We're going to have to order a special tool to do that area, it looks like. We may also be able to solve the problem via 3-axis water cutting. I'll update people as soon as I can.

Honestly, and I hate to admit this, it would really speed things up if someone were willing to offer up the CAD files of the original fascia / handle, or even just the button area. It would reduce the amount of trial and error we have to go through, and would also be worth a free fascia of that kind hearted person's choice.

But, either way, we'll march onward with this.
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#241615 - 04/03/2005 20:22 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: webroach]
webroach
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Loc: Colorado
Actually, hold that thought. We may be ok. I'll update again as soon as I can, but we may have solved the problem.
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#241616 - 06/03/2005 14:56 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: webroach]
Qtqc
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Registered: 12/02/2004
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The suspense is killing me. I think he's doing it on purpose. J/K

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#241617 - 07/03/2005 17:06 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: Qtqc]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
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Isn't the process/suspense part of the fun?

Keep us updated, I enjoy these techy soap-operas. Also makes interesting reading long after the fact for someone who joins this late and wants to find out how something "came to be."

Bruno
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#241618 - 08/03/2005 07:50 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: wfaulk]
ukengb
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Registered: 30/04/2003
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Loc: United Kingdom
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He stopped producing them claiming that he no loger had time for it. He did make a post to that effect instead of just fading away, though, so I don't think that anyone got screwed.


It's a shame he hasn't put anything on his website to that effect:-(

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#241619 - 08/03/2005 17:06 Re: "Go or No" Time for New Fascias [Re: webroach]
ukengb
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One thing that occurs to me is how the inside edge is finished, i.e. the surrounding edge of the viewing port? On the OEM fascia this is heavily champfered (I presume to allow a greater viewing angle). Is the intention for these aluminium fascias to be similarly finished?

I think it might also look better that way (i.e. champfered), but if it is really square cut then it will mask some of the screen when viewed from an angle (which is often required in a vehicle).

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