#298495 - 18/05/2007 03:04
Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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A bunch of us have been working away in a slightly obscure thread on this BSS, modifying Mark Cushman's excellent Empeg Web Lite stylesheet. One result is the attached file, a .zip file you can download, unzip, and then move the contents to the root (/) directory of your empeg via FTP. Once done, just surf to the Hijack web interface (upgrade to the latest Hijack first!), and click on the link at the bottom of the page. This gives you an animated facsimile of your empeg, complete with clickable buttons, and a full playlist structure for exploring your tunes.  The catch? It only (all) works in Firefox at the moment. Development is still underway, but I feel we need more people to become involved. So, please install it and try it out, and continue the feedback / discussions in this new thread. Actually, only two files from the .zip are needed: default.xsl, and fascia.png. The remainder of the files are just alternative colour versions of the latter. So if you prefer an amber lens on your empeg, just copy fascia_amber.png over to your player as fascia.png. Thanks. -ml
Edited by mlord (18/05/2007 10:59)
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#298497 - 18/05/2007 14:33
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 1875
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
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(downloads...) :-P
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#298498 - 18/05/2007 21:38
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: frog51]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 1875
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Hmmmm - I guess I am just being really thick here, but I can't see any way to use the default.xsl stylesheet. Is this for use with charcoalgray's interface? It is the only one I have, and I don't see any alternative which references this stylesheet? Did someone post an alternative and I have just missed that discussion? [Ninja edit - I am stupid - please ignore  ]
Edited by frog51 (18/05/2007 21:43)
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#298499 - 19/05/2007 21:37
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: frog51]
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addict
Registered: 11/01/2002
Posts: 517
Loc: Reading, UK
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oh, that's no good Not when Chris makes such nice buttons, and Stewart lets us light them and Rob did such a fantastic job fitting them... homage is due...  Gotta love the Gimp 
Edited by LittleBlueThing (19/05/2007 21:48)
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#298500 - 20/05/2007 16:34
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: LittleBlueThing]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 20/09/2002
Posts: 2473
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Oh, you beat me to it! Maybe I could make litbuttons.png from my website photographs.
Thanks to Mark and the other developers. This seems like a really neat tool.
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#298501 - 22/05/2007 14:26
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: LittleBlueThing]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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oh, that's no good
Not when Chris makes such nice buttons, and Stewart lets us light them and Rob did such a fantastic job fitting them...
homage is due...
Great! Can you make up a set of four of those: Blue, Green, Red, Amber ?
Thanks!
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#298502 - 22/05/2007 22:14
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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Development is still underway, but I feel we need more people to become involved.
So, please install it and try it out, and continue the feedback / discussions in this new thread.
Hi,
I've created a new empeg_weblite version featuring:
- fascia selection
- sorting of columns (just click on the column-title)
- 3 "lit button" fascia images are missing
- it still does not work in IE
Alex
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#298503 - 22/05/2007 23:26
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: ghostwheel]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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- it still does not work in IE
Alex
Yeah. Here's Mark Cushman's explanation of why my hacks don't work in IE (from the original thread):
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While you're around.. how do I get my button onmousexxx= events to work in MSIE? They work fine as-is in Firefox.
It's not the onmousexxx (is that some kind of kinky mouse porno?) commands that are not working, it is the imagemap. Internet Exploder doesn't allow imagemaps on PNG images without some trickery. The same page where I got the transparency fix describes the problem here. I tried the modified script, but it is just making things much more complicated. I think our options are to a) get the script to work or b) slice up the image again.
What a pain.
Edited by mlord (22/05/2007 23:28)
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#298504 - 22/05/2007 23:30
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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Quote:
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- it still does not work in IE
Alex
Yeah. Here's Mark Cushman's explanation of why my hacks don't work in IE (from the original thread):
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While you're around.. how do I get my button onmousexxx= events to work in MSIE? They work fine as-is in Firefox.
It's not the onmousexxx (is that some kind of kinky mouse porno?) commands that are not working, it is the imagemap. Internet Exploder doesn't allow imagemaps on PNG images without some trickery. The same page where I got the transparency fix describes the problem here. I tried the modified script, but it is just making things much more complicated. I think our options are to a) get the script to work or b) slice up the image again.
What a pain.
Oh, I meant to add: I hardly understand a word of the explanation/fix at the link in the comments above, but if you can understand it, then please have a go at implementing it for us all!
Thanks
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#298505 - 22/05/2007 23:40
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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veteran
Registered: 21/01/2002
Posts: 1379
Loc: Erie, CO
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Oh, I meant to add: I hardly understand a word of the explanation/fix at the link in the comments above, but if you can understand it, then please have a go at implementing it for us all!
The fix stretches a single pixel transparant gif over the PNG file and resets the imagemap to be applied to the gif. The way the script works does it behind the scenes using the DOM, although you could probably also do it manually in the stylesheet itself. The way the fix works messes up the positioning of everything on the screen, though. I can take a look at it later and see if I can find a manual way of applying the imagemap that will work cross-browser.
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#298506 - 22/05/2007 23:54
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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Oh, I meant to add: I hardly understand a word of the explanation/fix at the link in the comments above, but if you can understand it, then please have a go at implementing it for us all!
So, here's a list of things that would be really cool to have in this web interface:
- Move the lens selection menu to some kind of pop-up thingie.
- Implement a pop-up Rio Remote control, fully functional.
For this, we can probably steal Tony's version from the button guide,
and then just implement the onmousexxx=yyyyy functionality in pretty much identical fashion to how the existing front-panel buttons are done. It's really coma lot easier than it looks.
- Kludges for PNG onmouse events for MS IE support (see above).
EDIT: As I understand this one, all we need to do is overlay a 1-pixel transparent GIF onto the fascia image (specifying width="572" height="172"), and then use *that* image for the imagemap rather than the PNG image of the fascia. Right?
- Access to the current running order via some kind of pop-up. This requires a Hijack feature that I'm in the middle of implementing for Mark Cushman.
- A back button for easier playlist navigation.
Anything else for the "basics" here?
Edited by mlord (23/05/2007 00:11)
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#298507 - 23/05/2007 02:13
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: ghostwheel]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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- 3 "lit button" fascia images are missing
- it still does not work in IE
Hi,
this version should work in IE. IE below 5.5 will use an fascia gif.
I've also added a keyboard control:
Left side: Cursor Up/Down/Left/Right
Knob rotate: Page Up/Page Down
Knob press: Keypad "5", Pos1, End
Alex
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#298508 - 23/05/2007 02:41
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: ghostwheel]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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Quote:
Quote:
- 3 "lit button" fascia images are missing
- it still does not work in IE
Hi,
this version should work in IE. IE below 5.5 will use an fascia gif.
I've also added a keyboard control:
Left side: Cursor Up/Down/Left/Right
Knob rotate: Page Up/Page Down
Knob press: Keypad "5", Pos1, End
Alex
Whoo-hoo! Well done!
Here's a slightly modified default.xsl from your last one.
This one speeds up the KnobLeft and KnobRight repeat rates
so that volume changes and BreakOut Game moves work faster.
EDIT: Oh, and you can nuke the index.xml file from the .zip archive.
Cheers
Edited by mlord (23/05/2007 02:48)
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#298509 - 23/05/2007 02:51
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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Here's a slightly modified default.xsl from your last one.
This one speeds up the KnobLeft and KnobRight repeat rates
so that volume changes and BreakOut Game moves work faster.
I nuked my first attempt, so here it is again, fixed.
This one just uses 150ms for the repeat rate regardless,
and it seems to be just about right.
EDIT: Changed my mind again: this one uses 125ms for the keyboard
Knob Left/Right (PgUp/PgDn) keys, and 300ms for the "real" Knob.
This gives fewer false repeats from using the mouse.
Cheers
Edited by mlord (23/05/2007 03:00)
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#298510 - 23/05/2007 03:07
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: ghostwheel]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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Quote:
this version should work in IE. IE below 5.5 will use an fascia gif.
...
Alex
Whoa, Dude!! This even now works with IE 6/7 under Linux+Wine,
something that wasn't supposed to be possible!
Cheers!
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#298511 - 23/05/2007 03:38
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 20/09/2002
Posts: 2473
Loc: East Coast, USA
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I'll make seven! See the attached zip for blue, red, smoke (on blue), green, amber, stealth (on blue) and crystal (on blue). If anyone wants to make proper smoke and "clear" lenses (for crystal and stealth), then please do. "Clear" is just a white display (but black when pixels are unlit).
Try not to notice that my photographs have perspective while the render did not, thus the knob "sticks out" to the side. Enjoy.
Attachments
299580-litfascia.zip (271 downloads)
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#298512 - 23/05/2007 03:41
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: FireFox31]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 20/09/2002
Posts: 2473
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Oh, and here's a Photoshop .PSD containing all seven button sets as layers. You can drag and drop them on any lens color you want! Just like the REAL empeg!!!
Notice the little blob in the upper right. That helps the layer's "snap" into place when dropped into the PNG. Just erase it once the layer is pasted in and positioned.
Attachments
299581-Litbuttonsmasterwithselections.psd (309 downloads)
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#298513 - 23/05/2007 12:05
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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Try not to notice that my photographs have perspective while the render did not, thus the knob "sticks out" to the side.
Great buttons! But I think I might prefer a knob with less perspective -- a straight-on view, actually -- this would make clicking on the knob a LOT less ambiguous (more accurate).
Cheers
Edited by mlord (23/05/2007 12:18)
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#298514 - 23/05/2007 12:17
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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Great buttons! But I think I might prefer a knob with less perspective -- a straight-on view, actually -- this would make clicking on the knob a LOT less ambiguous (more accurate).
Oh, never mind. I've just tweaked the image map so that the center "push" radius is smaller, and that has eliminated the issue for me.
Updated default.xsl is attached.
Cheers
Edited by mlord (23/05/2007 12:19)
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#298516 - 23/05/2007 13:33
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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Here is an updated copy of the whole sheebang.
All that is new is I've renamed things so they "just work" when copied over.
Here's my next update. I moved all images to a subfolder called "weblite". The default.xsl dynamically lists the contents
of this folder to find all /fascia.*\.(png|gif)/. So you just have to drop new images in this folder and they will show up
in the interface.
I also optimized the png images for size and created a better looking .gif fallback image.
Todo:
- playlist change via Ajax (ie. reload of table "in place")
- lens selection as popup
- popup-Remote
- "running order" popup
- back button
- more fascia images
IMHO the "back button" should be an "up button". Could you include a "parent" element in the delivered xml (hijack change)
like this:
Code:
<playlist ...>
<parent>
<type>playlist</type>
<tagfid>...</tagfid>
...
</parent>
<items>
...
</items>
</playlist>
Alex
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#298517 - 23/05/2007 14:19
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: ghostwheel]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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IMHO the "back button" should be an "up button". Could you include a "parent" element in the delivered xml (hijack change)
I don't know how to decide upon / find a parent. The empeg database isn't really structured that way, even though that's how (most) people actually want to use it.
I think the only way would be for the AJAX stuff to keep track of it, as it's the only place that information is known.
??
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#298518 - 23/05/2007 14:21
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: ghostwheel]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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popup-Remote
You can leave that one for me.
I'll take a new photo of the remote and image map it.
Likely tonight (8+ hours from now).
Cheers
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#298519 - 23/05/2007 21:57
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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addict
Registered: 11/01/2002
Posts: 517
Loc: Reading, UK
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Great! Can you make up a set of four of those: Blue, Green, Red, Amber ?
Thanks!
Work sent me away for a few days(!)
Looks like Chris has sorted this though...
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#298520 - 23/05/2007 23:02
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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I think the only way would be for the AJAX stuff to keep track of it, as it's the only place that information is known.
Hi,
ajax navigation and back button are included in the attached version v0.5.
I didn't find a way to apply a xsl to an xml fetched via http subrequest so I build the new table rows "by hand" using DOM functions.
It's not pretty but it works.
Alex
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#298521 - 24/05/2007 02:52
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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popup-Remote
You can leave that one for me.
I'll take a new photo of the remote and image map it.
Likely tonight (8+ hours from now).
Ugh. I didn't get to this one today, so it'll be a while.
Feel free to preempt me!
Cheers
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#298522 - 26/05/2007 16:41
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: ghostwheel]
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member
Registered: 09/03/2003
Posts: 121
Loc: Iowa
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Here's my next update. I moved all images to a subfolder called "weblite". The default.xsl dynamically lists the contents
of this folder to find all /fascia.*\.(png|gif)/. So you just have to drop new images in this folder and they will show up
in the interface.
I am using this version and all I get is "404 Error Retrieving File"
GET /
Any help would be much appreciated.
I am using Hijack 476 and running Version 3alpha11
Thanks
Kelly
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#298523 - 26/05/2007 21:57
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: Gleep]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 28747
Loc: Seattle, WA
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#298526 - 27/05/2007 14:43
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: Gleep]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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More info
My missing files seem to be under /drive0/nfids I also have a /drive0/fids which has a bunch of directories in it but no files and the directories don't seem to have any files in them either. Dare I rename it to oldfids and rename nfids to fids?
Mmmm grab the fidsift.sh script (search this BBS for details) and re-run it on your player, and then force a database rebuild afterwards (just do an emplode sync).
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#298527 - 27/05/2007 14:44
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: Gleep]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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It works now, but my playlist structure is now totally trashed. After rearranging entries to try and put it back in order, it has become apparent that many, many songs are missing, but the free space and capacity are at the same as before amounts of 97.33GB and 223.14GB. : (
Note for others: this has *nothing* whatsoever to do with the web interface.
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#298528 - 28/05/2007 01:33
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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member
Registered: 09/03/2003
Posts: 121
Loc: Iowa
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Mmmm grab the fidsift.sh script (search this BBS for details) and re-run it on your player, and then force a database rebuild afterwards (just do an emplode sync).
Running fidsift.sh did not fix it. Renaming the fids directory to savefids and nfids to fids and a forced database rebuild did. In fact, I think running the fidsift.sh script is what messed it up in the first place as it appears to make an nfids directory and I normally run it after I load new files onto the empeg and had run it not long before I installed the web interface. I have run it many, many times before and it has never given me any trouble so I don't know what went wrong this time. After reading the FAQ for information on the whole fid structure I wonder if I even need to run fidsift.sh anymore as it sounds like version 3alpha will automatically load files using the more efficient directory structure.
Again thanks to everyone involved in making the Empeg such a wonderful device with the best online community around!
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#298529 - 28/05/2007 02:30
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: Gleep]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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Running fidsift.sh did not fix it. Renaming the fids directory to savefids and nfids to fids and a forced database rebuild did. In fact, I think running the fidsift.sh script is what messed it up in the first place
No, the fidsift.sh script by itself would not do this.. unless it was interrupted and then run again, perhaps.
Good to hear you've figured it out, though.
Cheers
Edited by mlord (28/05/2007 02:34)
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#298530 - 16/06/2007 11:16
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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new poster
Registered: 23/12/2003
Posts: 32
Loc: Cambridge, UK
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Very n00bish update to simply allow a folder structure to be dropped into the FTP root and browsed to
Attachments
300527-weblite.zip (290 downloads)
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#298531 - 18/06/2007 13:34
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: theGecko]
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veteran
Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 1362
Loc: Roma, Italy
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I'd like to simply thank you all for this. It looks great, works great, and it is simply greatly useful to me. And, if you needed any further confirmation, it works great in IE7 under Vista, too. You all rock!
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#298533 - 07/07/2007 23:34
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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new poster
Registered: 04/06/2002
Posts: 14
Loc: Iceland
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can anyone add two new features should be simple... * option to slow/turnoff the display update ( caushing lots of network/cpu load on player if many ppl connected.) * a Download currently playing button ? this would be perfect with these two features  What you think ?
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Títan Iceland
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#298534 - 14/07/2007 20:04
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: ghostwheel]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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I think the only way would be for the AJAX stuff to keep track of it, as it's the only place that information is known.
Hi,
ajax navigation and back button are included in the attached version v0.5.
I didn't find a way to apply a xsl to an xml fetched via http subrequest so I build the new table rows "by hand" using DOM functions.
It's not pretty but it works.
Alex
Alex, I finally got round to trying v0.5 as you posted it here.
Two problems:- The "Save" tune button has "EXT=.m3u" (should be "EXT=.mp3").
- The "Strm" tune button does not work with my Firefox 2.0 client.
Dunno why -- I see firefox grab the .m3u file, and it has the correct mime-type,
but nothing happens afterwards. Revert back one version to your prior release,
and it all works.
???
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#298535 - 16/07/2007 17:17
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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Alex, I finally got round to trying v0.5 as you posted it here.
Two problems:- The "Save" tune button has "EXT=.m3u" (should be "EXT=.mp3").
- The "Strm" tune button does not work with my Firefox 2.0 client.
Dunno why -- I see firefox grab the .m3u file, and it has the correct mime-type,
but nothing happens afterwards. Revert back one version to your prior release,
and it all works.
???
Hi,
I've fixed the issues (stream and save) and added a selection for the refresh timer. as usual: not pretty
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#298536 - 16/07/2007 18:50
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: ghostwheel]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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Quote:
I've fixed the issues (stream and save) and added a selection for the refresh timer. as usual: not pretty
Hi again,
I've found some more bugs in the last version. The attached version 0.60 should work fine. It also has a javascript playlist cache to speed up navigation on large playlists.
Alex
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#298538 - 16/07/2007 22:25
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: ghostwheel]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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Quote:
Duh, the last one didn't work in IE. This one does. Sorry.
Alex
The man is a machine! Woo-hoo, great to have you onboard for this baby, Alex!
My primary player is currently recovering from surgery: replaced the 30GB hard drive with a pair of 16GB CF cards. Once it comes out of the disk builder and gets some tunes uploaded, I'll reload the latest web interface back onto it!
This Web Lite is a godsend for seminars and courses -- I regularly use my empegs as "demos" for real-time / embedded systems courses that I instruct.
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#298539 - 17/08/2007 10:06
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 41
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For some reason it shows me the vfd screen with graphics, but no buttons, thats with the xsl above, and all renamed png's.
It is on my mac though, in both Safari and FF, so i'll boot parallels and try that.
Edit
Nope PC IE7, and FF same thing.
EDIT AGAIN, I'm stupid, i forgot the weblite folder, and was putting the fascia.png in the rool with the xsl. In my defence i did get back late last night from the GooGooDools concert.
Edited by Nobbie (17/08/2007 10:33)
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#298540 - 21/11/2007 06:27
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: mlord]
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Registered: 13/04/2006
Posts: 6
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Hey guys:
I finally got around to installing this and it looks great. I've given it a go in Firefox and IE and it looks like it is working in both. I'd just like to give everyone a kudos for all of their hard work!
Austin
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#306059 - 12/01/2008 21:24
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: Austin Newman]
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journeyman
Registered: 08/10/2002
Posts: 94
Loc: Luxembourg
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I just installed this nifty little application; it is amazing!
Now that I have a working network here at home it makes listening to my favorite music everywhere in the house so much easier. Thank you all for the work!
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#306725 - 01/02/2008 04:06
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: Lupo]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 1719
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
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Wow!
Wow!
Wow!
This is really cool. I'm just scratching the surface with what this can do, but I'm very impressed.
For fun I set the screen blanker timeout and when the empeg went blank the web interface did not change. I like that.
Wow. Very nice work, you guys!
On another front... no more reason for people to get rid of their empeg just because they buy a new car- just put a Samsung Q1 on the dash and network the empeg in the trunk!
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#307600 - 24/02/2008 14:25
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: Snowshoe]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 1875
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
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If you have an iPhone just browse to the empeg. This would not require anything at the empeg end, but you will need some connectivity between the two. Very simple. I know I can browse to mine from anywhere if I have to, but normally I lock it down to home networks only.
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#307670 - 26/02/2008 11:16
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: Snowshoe]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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Could this easily work using an iPhones Safari browser or too complicated to implement? I've fixed a JavaScript error in the attached version which prevented the interface from working in Safari (3.x beta on Windows). Perhaps this will fix it on the iPhone/Mac... Alex
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#307672 - 26/02/2008 13:25
Re: Empeg Web Lite --> mucho improved!
[Re: Snowshoe]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 4513
Loc: Surrey, UK
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Java does not equal JavaScript by the way, they two are completely different things.
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#307930 - 05/03/2008 16:52
Adding a clickable Rio Remote..
[Re: ghostwheel]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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Could this easily work using an iPhones Safari browser or too complicated to implement? I've fixed a JavaScript error in the attached version which prevented the interface from working in Safari (3.x beta on Windows). Perhaps this will fix it on the iPhone/Mac... Here (attached) is a slightly hacked update to 0.70 (above). This one adds a fully functional Rio Remote to the interface. But it still needs some work, as wide playlists will overlap the Rio Remote.. need to resolve this somehow. Ideally, some AJAX wizard here would make the remote a floating image, that could be dragged around the screen at will. I think that would be super cool, but I don't know how to do it off-hand. Also, it would be really nice to have the Button Guide information pop-up as help text when one hovers over a button for more than xx seconds. Anyone here know how to do those simple things ? 
Edited by mlord (05/03/2008 17:01)
Edit Reason: fixed bug, reattached file.
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#307931 - 05/03/2008 17:08
Re: Adding a clickable Rio Remote..
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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This one adds a fully functional Rio Remote to the interface.
But it still needs some work, as wide playlists will overlap the Rio Remote.. need to resolve this somehow. Ideally, some AJAX wizard here would make the remote a floating image, that could be dragged around the screen at will. I think that would be super cool, but I don't know how to do it off-hand. Or, actually, just a small button on the screen just (below the fascia? or on the rivets?) that one presses to make the remote appear/disappear when needed (below the fascia, on top of the playlists). That's probably better, and less cluttered. ??
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#307933 - 05/03/2008 18:02
Re: Adding a clickable Rio Remote..
[Re: mlord]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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Hi, I've created a quick-hack "movable" version here: https://www.ghostwheel.de/empeg/ Give me some time and I'll finish it. Alex
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#307936 - 05/03/2008 18:23
Re: Adding a clickable Rio Remote..
[Re: ghostwheel]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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Okay, that's looking cool! I think what we might want is to have it not normally visible, and clicking on one (or any) of the four rivets would toggle it on/off display-wise. (?) And then movable is fantastic on top of that! Thanks!
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#307937 - 05/03/2008 18:25
Re: Adding a clickable Rio Remote..
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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Also, it would be really nice to have the Button Guide information pop-up as help text when one hovers over a button for more than xx seconds. Mmm.. maybe instead, have a little text section at the bottom of the remote, which just always shows a description of the functions for the button over which the mouse cursor is hovering.. That's pretty simple, and perhaps would not annoy people as much as having little pop-ups obscure the remote.. ?
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#307943 - 05/03/2008 23:03
Re: .png or .gif for image map?
[Re: mlord]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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Hi, EDIT: Ah.. from earlier in this thread, it sounds like there should be no issues using just rioremote.gif everywhere.
Right? Yes, but ... see below. I've completed version 0.8 featuring - a movable remote (including button descriptions) - color and refresh popups - some more bugfixes for silly browsers I've edited the rioremote.png and .gif - I'd like to keep the png because it has a nice (alpha transparency) border now. Alex
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#307944 - 05/03/2008 23:46
Re: .png or .gif for image map?
[Re: ghostwheel]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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Hi, EDIT: Ah.. from earlier in this thread, it sounds like there should be no issues using just rioremote.gif everywhere.
Right? Yes, but ... see below. I've completed version 0.8 featuring - a movable remote (including button descriptions) - color and refresh popups - some more bugfixes for silly browsers I've edited the rioremote.png and .gif - I'd like to keep the png because it has a nice (alpha transparency) border now. Alex Sounds good. But it doesn't work here (Firefox 2 on Linux): 
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#307945 - 05/03/2008 23:52
Re: .png or .gif for image map?
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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But it doesn't work here (Firefox 2 on Linux): Oh.. your .zip file is missing these: weblite/weblite.js
weblite/domresize.js
weblite/weblite.css
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#307976 - 06/03/2008 16:46
Re: .png or .gif for image map?
[Re: mlord]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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Hi, Oh.. your .zip file is missing these whoops, fixed. sorry. a new zip file is attached. Alex
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#307981 - 06/03/2008 18:42
Re: .png or .gif for image map?
[Re: ghostwheel]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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I've completed version 0.8 featuring
- a movable remote (including button descriptions)
- color and refresh popups
- some more bugfixes for silly browsers
I've edited the rioremote.png and .gif - I'd like to keep the png because it has a nice (alpha transparency) border now.
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a new zip file is attached.
Alex Holy crap, this is totally awesome! Folks, you gotta see this to believe it! Thanks!
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#308004 - 06/03/2008 23:35
Re: .png or .gif for image map?
[Re: mlord]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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This has more accurate button mapping for the new RioRemote image. Wow, I was 1 pixel off at some places.  I've just finished a new version which can parse some variables passed in the URL - now you can save a bookmark with your favorite settings. There are three parameters: remote=[0|1] example: remote=1 (show remote)
color={name} example: color=red (load fascia_red.png)
refresh={milliseconds} example: refresh=0 (disable refresh)I haven't tested it on my empeg (it is in my car, I know I shouldn't leave it there) and hope the parameters don't interfere with the other parameters FID and EXT. An example URL would be: http://www.ghostwheel.de/empeg/?FID=91e1&color=green&remote=1&refresh=0&EXT=.xmlAlex
Edited by ghostwheel (06/03/2008 23:45)
Edit Reason: fixed example URL
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#308009 - 07/03/2008 02:45
Re: .png or .gif for image map?
[Re: mlord]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 1988
Loc: Manteca, California
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I can't tell from the pic. Is that the remote with the coveted Stun/Kill option... 
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#308072 - 10/03/2008 21:40
Empeg Weblite 0.93
[Re: ghostwheel]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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Hi, the last version didn't work on the empeg because of the query string variables. I've fixed this - the variables are now passed as anchor ("#"): remote=[0|1] example: remote=1 (show remote)
color={name} example: color=red (load fascia_red.png)
refresh={milliseconds} example: refresh=0 (disable refresh)
sort={column} example: order=artist (set sort column)
order={asc|desc} example: order=asc (set sort order)An example URL would be http://www.ghostwheel.de/empeg/?FID=91e1...title#order=asc Version 0.93 also has a new fascia "rainbow" and a bookmark button to save a favorite of the current view. Alex
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#308146 - 13/03/2008 17:40
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.93
[Re: ghostwheel]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 1719
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
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This is such cool stuff!
I really like the remote and the new drop-down menus.
I tried bookmarking (right click, 'bookmark this link' from FireFox) the site with my settings (litblue, remote on, 0.5sec), but although the custom parameters can be seen in the url, the page is not customized when called from the bookmark.
I also noticed that when trying to access a playlist that includes several hundred songs, the playlist area would darken and not update. It seemed to want me to wait, but after a couple minutes I gave up on it and reloaded the page.
I tried this a few times with various refresh rates, with no success. Should I just have more patience?
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#308155 - 13/03/2008 20:59
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.93
[Re: Robotic]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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I also noticed that when trying to access a playlist that includes several hundred songs, the playlist area would darken and not update. It seemed to want me to wait, but after a couple minutes I gave up on it and reloaded the page.
I tried this a few times with various refresh rates, with no success. Should I just have more patience? Hit PAUSE on the player, and see if that helps. - If YES, then you just needed to wait longer.
- if NO, then something else is wrong.
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#308195 - 14/03/2008 15:24
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.93
[Re: Robotic]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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I tried bookmarking (right click, 'bookmark this link' from FireFox) the site with my settings (litblue, remote on, 0.5sec), but although the custom parameters can be seen in the url, the page is not customized when called from the bookmark. Did you clear your browser cache? Try: Shift+Reload. A bookmark should look like this: http://emepg/?FID=91e1&EXT=.xml#color=rainbow#remote=1#refresh=0#sort=title#order=ascAlex
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#308235 - 15/03/2008 03:09
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.93
[Re: ghostwheel]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 1719
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
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Hi Alex- The url looks like this for both 'Blue' and 'Lit Blue' selections: http://192.168.1.5/?FID=101&EXT=.xml#refresh=500#color=blue#remote=1Every other selection has a different color specification. So, in my case, the 'Blue' graphic was being displayed instead of the 'Lit Blue' graphic. Thanks!
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#308236 - 15/03/2008 03:21
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.93
[Re: mlord]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 1719
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
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Hit PAUSE on the player, and see if that helps. - If YES, then you just needed to wait longer.
- if NO, then something else is wrong.
Cheers Hi Mark! I tried surfing the playlists with various conditions- slow/fast refresh, and player off, paused, and playing. Access to 'normal' playlists is only slightly slower with slow refresh or player playing. That one big playlist I've got still causes a deathly long pause to the playlist area no matter what setting or condition the player is in. It just won't come up. Can you think of anything else I could try that might give other clues? Thanks!
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#308239 - 15/03/2008 04:02
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.93
[Re: Robotic]
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addict
Registered: 01/03/2002
Posts: 559
Loc: Florida
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Is the CPU usage high while waiting for this to load? If the CPU usage is high try creating a a few playlists that double in size. Do these new playlists take more the twice as long to finish loading?
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#308253 - 15/03/2008 17:26
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.93
[Re: Attack]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 1719
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
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Is the CPU usage high while waiting for this to load? If the CPU usage is high try creating a a few playlists that double in size. Do these new playlists take more the twice as long to finish loading? It doesn't seem to affect the CPU usage- it bounces around 5%. I'm assuming you want to know Windows CPU, but perhaps that assumption is wrong. How would I watch the empeg's CPU load? I'm out of time just now, but I'll try some of this again later. Thanks!
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#308255 - 15/03/2008 18:20
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.93
[Re: Robotic]
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Registered: 01/03/2002
Posts: 559
Loc: Florida
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It doesn't seem to affect the CPU usage- it bounces around 5%.
I'm assuming you want to know Windows CPU, but perhaps that assumption is wrong. How would I watch the empeg's CPU load?
I'm out of time just now, but I'll try some of this again later.
Thanks! Sorry, I should have said windows CPU usage.
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#308334 - 17/03/2008 21:29
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.94
[Re: Robotic]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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Hi, Every other selection has a different color specification.
So, in my case, the 'Blue' graphic was being displayed instead of the 'Lit Blue' graphic. I've fixed this in the attached version 0.94. Alex
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#308335 - 17/03/2008 21:37
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.93
[Re: Robotic]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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Hi, That one big playlist I've got still causes a deathly long pause to the playlist area no matter what setting or condition the player is in. It just won't come up.
Can you think of anything else I could try that might give other clues? How many entries does your big playlist have? Did you use fidsift on your player? What happens if you middle-click the playlist link (ie open link in new window)? If the page shows up please save the page source and pm it to me. After clicking a playlist link I can hear the harddrive seeking on my player. The new page shows up the moment the harddrive noise stops. Alex
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#308382 - 19/03/2008 04:44
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.93
[Re: ghostwheel]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 1719
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
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Hi,
How many entries does your big playlist have? Emplode says 1238 items listed, of which 11 are further directories. Weblite says 1238 also. Did you use fidsift on your player? Yes. What happens if you middle-click the playlist link (ie open link in new window)? If the page shows up please save the page source and pm it to me.
After clicking a playlist link I can hear the harddrive seeking on my player. The new page shows up the moment the harddrive noise stops.
Alex The resulting page says: The source is zipped and attached to this post. I can open in new windows other playlists with no problem. Drive access noises are brief for this problem playlist. Thanks for the updates, Alex!
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#308388 - 19/03/2008 12:52
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.93
[Re: Robotic]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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Your problem are some tracks with malformed meta-data. On line 2231 it is "Skater Boy" for example. You should fix the metadata using emplode. You could also delete the songs and re-upload them after editing the id3 tags. The "problem" could be fixed while generating the xml files in hijack, but I doubt this is the right place - I don't even know if an id3-track field allows "0x02" as track-number. If it is a valid track-number, hijack could translate all single-byte values less than 0x20 to their ascii representation. Alex
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#308390 - 19/03/2008 15:11
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.93
[Re: ghostwheel]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 1719
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
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Aha! Thanks for the diagnosis and explanation, Alex. I will fix my tags and post again later.
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#309581 - 28/04/2008 22:09
Empeg Weblite 0.95
[Re: ghostwheel]
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new poster
Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 28
Loc: Koblenz, Germany
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Version 0.95 is a bugfix release: - fixed some safari javascript problems
- detect bad playlists and show warning (Robotic's problem)
- show ajax wait indicator while loading
- some cosmetic fixes (ie highlight current line)
Alex
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#309596 - 29/04/2008 10:59
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.95
[Re: ghostwheel]
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old hand
Registered: 07/01/2005
Posts: 771
Loc: Sector ZZ9pZa
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Great work guys
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#317750 - 04/01/2009 22:56
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.95
[Re: sein]
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member
Registered: 11/08/2002
Posts: 142
Loc: Chicago, IL
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All the fun stuff I miss.
Shame on me.
I can't wait to get this installed.
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#317941 - 09/01/2009 06:16
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.95
[Re: mlord]
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member
Registered: 11/08/2002
Posts: 142
Loc: Chicago, IL
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I have a dumb question: (I supposed if someone could include a short readme.txt with the zip archive -- maybe this wouldn't be a question)
When I boot the player, I don't want to look at the dir index. I want to go straight to the fabulous httpd menu. Is there some way to do this? (besides saving a bookmark)
edit: I tried the khttp_dirs=0 option. No dice.
Thanks,
-Ben
Edited by benjammin (09/01/2009 06:25)
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#317963 - 09/01/2009 16:19
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.95
[Re: benjammin]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 11063
Loc: Canada
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I don't want to look at the dir index. I want to go straight to the fabulous httpd menu. Is there some way to do this? (besides saving a bookmark) Create a file named /index.html on the empeg, with these contents:
<html><head>
<meta HTTP-EQUIV="REFRESH" content="0; url=/?FID=101&EXT=.xml">
</head></html>
(EDIT: simplified it) (EDIT again: hacked in some extra UBBcode tags to try and prevent FF3 from trying to interpret the HTML tags in the above post [WTF?]).
Edited by mlord (09/01/2009 18:38)
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#317968 - 09/01/2009 16:57
Re: Empeg Weblite 0.95
[Re: mlord]
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Ko. thanks!
-Ben
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