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#308378 - 19/03/2008 00:05 Home Docks: making your own?
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 13564
Loc: Canada
I'm no longer in the Home Dock business. You may have noticed! smile

But SWMBO & I do have fond memories of The Year Of The Dock, when we were both unemployed and kept afloat here through the generosity of those of you who purchased them from us back then.

So, thanks again for that.

Now.. over the years, a few people asked for plans. Well, I don't do plans. Wrong brain type or something. I just start building and things get done.

But here's the closest thing to plans. A 4MB 600dpi scan of the trickiest dock parts: the two sides (mirror images of each other), the center divider (very tricky), and the rear panel (non critical).

By measuring pixels (photoshop, gimp, or similar software) you can obtain exact measurements and locations for the various holes, slots, and other cutouts. Just divide the pixel counts by 600 to convert to inches, or by 23.622 for millimetres.

You'll also need a bottom and top (with fan air channel), but those are mostly ordinary pieces and are much easier to fabricate than the others.

The wiring diagram is still on the Home Docks site (link at top of this page).

Cheers!

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#308379 - 19/03/2008 00:11 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Loc: Canada
Rumour has it that oliver may make a few docks, with a somewhat modified design. Keep your eyes peeled for those.

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#317330 - 15/12/2008 15:56 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: mlord]
corrigun
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Registered: 27/05/2005
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
FYI...If I can get some drawings from someone, I would be willing to do some parts on my CNC router. If anyone is interested.

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#317410 - 18/12/2008 20:58 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: corrigun]
Major_Sarcasm
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Registered: 28/08/2003
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Loc: Isle of Wight, UK
Anyone who's considering making one, it'd be worth the aggro. I have one of the originals, painted black by me, and it rocks.
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#319288 - 14/02/2009 10:37 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: Major_Sarcasm]
crazyplums
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Registered: 29/12/2006
Posts: 157
Loc: E.Sussex, UK
assuming the panels are simply flat with cut outs etc, i can quite easily knock up some to scale drawings and save them in any number of formats for cutting, i only use x&y measurements myself so whoever does the cnc thing would need to input the z (depth) measurememnts if they're needed (assuming cut outs don't go right through, in which case 2d is fine).

only prob... would need an unconstructed case to begin with, ie the flat panels to measure and draw..

Hugh


Edited by crazyplums (14/02/2009 10:39)
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#319292 - 14/02/2009 12:06 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: crazyplums]
mlord
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Loc: Canada
If you can get hold of Oliver, he has a set of flat unassembled panels from me.

-ml

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#319296 - 14/02/2009 14:04 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: mlord]
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i'll give it a go! i sit here all day drawing stuff (well, when not spending half the day on various forums!) so it shouldn't be too tricky at all.
Hugh
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#319368 - 16/02/2009 08:26 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: crazyplums]
gbeer
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Registered: 17/12/2000
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Loc: Manteca, California
I've taken Marks 600dpi scan and converted it to Pro/Engineer models. Attached is a plot. What I don't know, is what any of the actual dimensions are. The model dimensions are in units of pixels/100. Nor do I know any depths.

If Mark is willing to mark-up the pdf with some of the correct values. I'll fix that and post a corrected plot and a set of step files.

EDIT: I noticed I have some of the parts mis-assembled, fix it later. I'm off to bed.


Attachments
lord-dock.pdf (1246 downloads)



Edited by gbeer (16/02/2009 08:37)
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#319376 - 16/02/2009 15:28 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: gbeer]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 13564
Loc: Canada
Well.. wouldn't 600dpi mean that 100 pixels == 1/6" ?

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#319402 - 17/02/2009 03:56 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: mlord]
gbeer
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Registered: 17/12/2000
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Loc: Manteca, California
Well I've wiped the egg off, and here is an updated pdf.

There are still errors in the print. Since I've never seen a dock and don't have access. Someone else will need to provide correction.



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lord-dock.pdf (1217 downloads)
Description: updated


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#319814 - 26/02/2009 17:40 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: gbeer]
crazyplums
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not been on for a bit, sorry!

I've had a reply from Oliver who can send a kit to draw.

just seen the above pdf, i've no idea how big a pixel is, or even if it has a set size, nor have i actually seen a home dock in the flesh, so i don't really know how accurate that drawing is (no offence!), a mm or two out would make a good job bad!

cheers,
hugh
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#319821 - 27/02/2009 02:49 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: crazyplums]
gbeer
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Registered: 17/12/2000
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@ 600 dpi, 1 pixel = .0016"

That's pretty good. The problem comes from errors in reading the image. The edges of the parts are either rounded (out of focus) or not quite square to the scanner's rows.

I was able to draw the lines directly over the image. It may also be that the parts scanned actually have the mismatches as I've drawn them. Nothing every gets built exactly perfect.

If you look at the dimensions and compare one side to the other, they similar features should be sized and located by similar dimensions.

BTW. I'm not representing that drawing as final, it's a check print. I know there are errors. The most gross, is the depth of the cuts on the inner surfaces of the sides.
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#319830 - 27/02/2009 08:55 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: gbeer]
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technically i can draw them from a hi-res scan and just one measurement in mm from each piece, i would need to be told the depths of rebates though,

Hugh
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#319832 - 27/02/2009 12:01 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: crazyplums]
mlord
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Originally Posted By: crazyplums
i would need to be told the depths of rebates though

I think the relief cuts (rebates) in the side pieces should be about 2mm deep.

The idea is that they provide clearance for the screw heads that protrude from the sides of the empeg, so you could measure the screw head projection distance and use that if you want a better number.

Cheers


Edited by mlord (27/02/2009 12:03)

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#319833 - 27/02/2009 12:06 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: gbeer]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
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Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: gbeer
The problem comes from errors in reading the image. The edges of the parts are either rounded (out of focus) or not quite square to the scanner's rows.

Those are roundovers on the exposed finished edges. The only places you should see them in the scan are around the cooling holes, and at the front edge of the side pieces.

Just include the blurry part in the overall measurement (the scanner is pretty good about that), and the exact length can tolerate a mm or two of variance there.

-ml

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#321759 - 27/04/2009 12:56 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: crazyplums]
wfaulk
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Originally Posted By: crazyplums
rebates

Is that British for "rabbet"?
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#321760 - 27/04/2009 13:04 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: wfaulk]
andy
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Originally Posted By: wfaulk
Originally Posted By: crazyplums
rebates

Is that British for "rabbet"?

Yes.
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#321767 - 27/04/2009 17:41 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: andy]
wfaulk
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Pronunciation? In American, "rabbet" is pronounced "RAB-it", virtually, if not completely, the same as in "bunny rabbit". "Rebate" would refer to an amount of money returned after a sale, and is pronounced "RĒ-b&#257t".
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#321770 - 27/04/2009 18:39 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: wfaulk]
peter
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Loc: Cambridge, England
There's no difference in pronunciation between a rebate that's money returned, and a rebate that's a receptacle cut in something.

Peter

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#321784 - 27/04/2009 20:27 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: peter]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 13564
Loc: Canada
Us confused canucks use both "rebate" and "rabbet", with each pronounced properly, of course. smile

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#323256 - 12/06/2009 19:59 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: mlord]
crazyplums
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Registered: 29/12/2006
Posts: 157
Loc: E.Sussex, UK
who was it said "the United States and Great Britain are two fine nations seperated only by a common language", or something to that affect!

next you'll be telling me that pants are long shorts instead of underwear and that a fanny is the back bottom and not the front bottom, on a ho (see, i speak americaaan!) of course.

then we get into the whole automobile (car) thing, you have a hood, trunk, fenders, windshields, mufflers and a steering wheel while we have a bonnet, boot, wings, windscreen, silencers and a turny thing. crazy



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#323258 - 12/06/2009 21:38 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: crazyplums]
andy
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Posts: 5690
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
You do know Mark is Canadian right ?

wink
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#324928 - 06/08/2009 17:06 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: andy]
crazyplums
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Originally Posted By: andy
You do know Mark is Canadian right ?

wink


I do now!

can't believe it's been so long since i logged in!
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#337059 - 13/09/2010 16:27 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: crazyplums]
drakino
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Posts: 7867
Loc: Seattle, WA
For reference (Since the link at the top is gone), the docks site is:

http://rtr.ca/docks/

That contains the wiring diagram, parts list, and other information.
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#362077 - 22/06/2014 11:48 Re: Home Docks: making your own? [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
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Originally Posted By: mlord
Originally Posted By: crazyplums
i would need to be told the depths of rebates though

I think the relief cuts (rebates) in the side pieces should be about 2mm deep.

The idea is that they provide clearance for the screw heads that protrude from the sides of the empeg, so you could measure the screw head projection distance and use that if you want a better number.

Oh, and the long slots at the rear of the side pieces should be about the same depth as the rebates you can see on both ends of the back insert.

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