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#324185 - 14/07/2009 00:10 Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase
FireFox31
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Registered: 19/09/2002
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How can a mere mortal give back to the empegbbs user knowledgebase?

Often, I think of questions that I know you all will have answers to. But what do you call a community member who always takes and doesn't give back?

Sometimes, I'll see a question that I hope to answer (ie: about Microsoft Office), but it already has multiple good replies. Curses, foiled again.

Does anyone else feel this way? Haha, help us to help you. Thanks everyone!
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#324186 - 14/07/2009 00:34 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: FireFox31]
msaeger
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I think posting questions is giving to the community. We come here to have discussions and share information so if no one asked a question to start a discussion it would not be a very good bbs.
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#324193 - 14/07/2009 12:06 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: msaeger]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
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Loc: London
I must say I always feel a little guilty posting questions. I can't think of a single example where I've been able to give good solid advice.

Does noone here have ambitions to plant an orchard or grow veg (or anything else I might know something about)???

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#324197 - 14/07/2009 17:53 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: tahir]
Dignan
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As a top question-poster, I can say that I frequently feel guilty that I can't contribute much in the way of answers to others' questions. I know I've been able to offer genuine assistance a few times, but the number of times that's happened compared to the number of times I've received brilliant assistance from the other folks here is very small.

So, in case I don't thank you good people enough in the many threads of questions I've started, I big thank you goes out to you all.
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#324198 - 14/07/2009 17:55 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: Dignan]
tfabris
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Those who answer the questions usually do so because they enjoy it, so don't feel guilty. smile
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#324200 - 14/07/2009 20:31 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: tahir]
canuckInOR
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Registered: 13/02/2002
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Loc: Portland, OR
Originally Posted By: tahir
Does noone here have ambitions to plant an orchard or grow veg

Not when I'm only a 5 minute walk to the local farmer's market...

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#324201 - 14/07/2009 20:50 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: canuckInOR]
tman
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Nobody is keeping a tally anyway so just answer if/when you can. Its all good.

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#324202 - 14/07/2009 22:17 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: tman]
FireFox31
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You guys are the best.
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#324203 - 15/07/2009 00:21 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: tahir]
msaeger
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Originally Posted By: tahir

Does noone here have ambitions to plant an orchard or grow veg (or anything else I might know something about)???


I do but not until next year I think it's too late to plant anything outside.
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#324204 - 15/07/2009 07:09 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: msaeger]
tahir
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Loc: London
Originally Posted By: msaeger
I do but not until next year I think it's too late to plant anything outside.


It's never too late, and right now is a good time to be ordering fruit and nut trees. Do you know what USDA hardiness zone you're in?

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#324205 - 15/07/2009 07:24 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: canuckInOR]
tahir
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Originally Posted By: canuckInOR
Not when I'm only a 5 minute walk to the local farmer's market...


I guess OR means Oregon, I know there are loads of great orchards round there but it's not the same, they'll never be able to sell the ripest possible fruit. If you have room in your garden grow a couple of fruit trees, maybe a Jefferson gage and something that'll pollinate it. If you get the Jefferson at just the right moment, warm from the sun, it'll be just about the best thing you've ever eaten.

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#324206 - 15/07/2009 11:43 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: tahir]
Phoenix42
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Registered: 21/03/2002
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tahir, maybe you can explain the label I saw on a watermelon recently. It stated "Fertilized with Honey". Am I to assume someone is out there pouring honey on watermelon plants?

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#324207 - 15/07/2009 12:16 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: Phoenix42]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
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Loc: London
I've heard of people putting vodka into watermelons, never honey. By either definition of fertilisation (pollination or nutrition) I've no idea what that would mean.

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#324208 - 15/07/2009 13:31 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: Phoenix42]
Robotic
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Originally Posted By: Phoenix42
tahir, maybe you can explain the label I saw on a watermelon recently. It stated "Fertilized with Honey". Am I to assume someone is out there pouring honey on watermelon plants?

I just googled it out of curiosity and found this forum thread-
http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/showthread.php?p=247471
Some interesting angles on honey/sugar as plant food.

I also found this info about bee poop!
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#324209 - 15/07/2009 13:41 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: Robotic]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
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Loc: London
Interesting, seems to refer to orchids though which aren't even remotely similar to watermelons

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#324210 - 15/07/2009 14:06 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: tahir]
Schido
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Sure it didn't say fertilized BY Honey?

http://www.harvestmoonranch.net/Honey.html
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#324211 - 15/07/2009 14:12 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: Schido]
tahir
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Loc: London
Now that would be interesting eek

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#324212 - 15/07/2009 15:05 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: FireFox31]
Cris
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Registered: 06/02/2002
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Loc: Leeds, UK
What I find more amazing about this bbs than the seeming never ending pit of knowledge it contains is how we can take a perfectly normal topic like the start of this one, and turn it into something to do with watermelon and honey. Now that really is genius smile

I gave up long ago trying to answer any question, I just sit back and enjoy being part of this community even though the numbers do seem to be getting a little thin these days frown

Three cheers to us!!!!

Cris.

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#324213 - 15/07/2009 15:11 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: Cris]
Dignan
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Originally Posted By: Cris
...even though the numbers do seem to be getting a little thin these days frown...

I do worry about that sometimes. This community isn't exactly based around a growing subject matter...
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#324217 - 15/07/2009 17:20 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: Dignan]
drakino
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As others have said, participate how you can. It's about community, and not exact tracking with question and answer quotas.

I enjoy my time here, and I hope others do as well. I also don't mind hosting the site, as it's remained a great place to visit for over 10 years now.

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#324219 - 15/07/2009 21:49 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: Dignan]
FireFox31
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This community isn't exactly based around a growing subject matter...

Perhaps we need to take the same hint as newspapers. If they want to stop atrophying subscribers and get some new blood, they must give out Amazon Kindles. So maybe we should give out empegs, or some software emulated version?

Wait for it....

The empeg iPhone app.

New thread started


Edited by FireFox31 (15/07/2009 21:51)
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#324221 - 15/07/2009 21:51 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: FireFox31]
peter
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The Ipod/Iphone is a really nice bit of hardware; it's about time somebody wrote a music player for it.

Peter

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#324224 - 16/07/2009 00:10 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: FireFox31]
larry818
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Registered: 01/10/2002
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Loc: Fullerton, Calif.
Originally Posted By: FireFox31
So maybe we should give out empegs


I'm doing my part. I gave my spare empeg to a friend and even installed it in his Jeep. I know he's seen the bbs, but he's still in lurker mode...

He's loving the empeg.

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#324231 - 16/07/2009 07:14 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: larry818]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
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Loc: London
I guess I'm a bit odd, never owned an empeg but just loved the whole idea and the people behind it seemed pretty cool too, started visiting the boards as soon as I became aware of their existence. Had my name down for a Mk I and a Slimp3 at the same time, I ended up going for the Slimp3 and a really dodgy brick of a portable mp3player (Neo???). Never like the Rio branding on later versions. Think I joined just before I bought my first Karma which, now that Peter's brought it up, is still a way better player than the iPod.

Why is it that companies that really know what they're doing on the product (robust, lightweight apps) like Psion and Empeg fail but Apple and MS with their huge bloated apps succeed?

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#324233 - 16/07/2009 10:12 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: tahir]
Roger
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Originally Posted By: tahir
Why is it that companies that really know what they're doing on the product (robust, lightweight apps) like Psion and Empeg fail but Apple and MS with their huge bloated apps succeed?


Marketing.
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#324234 - 16/07/2009 10:58 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: Roger]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
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Loc: London
Originally Posted By: Roger
Marketing.


Is that money to spend on, or an understanding of?

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#324236 - 16/07/2009 11:00 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: tahir]
pca
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Both.

pca
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#324237 - 16/07/2009 11:19 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: pca]
tahir
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Loc: London
Originally Posted By: pca
Both.

pca


So why are we such good innovators and poor marketers? And why has government after government failed to address this?

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#324245 - 16/07/2009 12:44 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: tahir]
hybrid8
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Originally Posted By: tahir

So why are we such good innovators and poor marketers? And why has government after government failed to address this?


If, as I assume, you're talking about the UK, I think you may be pointing to the problem in your comment.

Why should the government be responsible for addressing a deficiency in a company's marketing department? The UK is practically a giant island-based police state and penal colony already. Increasing the reliance or expectations of the nanny state isn't going to make matters any better.

Besides, neither Rio nor Sonic Blue were UK based, and ultimately they let the ball drop, not the engineers who came up with the goods.
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#324246 - 16/07/2009 13:13 Re: Giving back to the empegbbs knowledgebase [Re: hybrid8]
Robotic
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Originally Posted By: hybrid8
Originally Posted By: tahir

So why are we such good innovators and poor marketers? And why has government after government failed to address this?


If, as I assume, you're talking about the UK, I think you may be pointing to the problem in your comment.

Why should the government be responsible for addressing a deficiency in a company's marketing department? The UK is practically a giant island-based police state and penal colony already. Increasing the reliance or expectations of the nanny state isn't going to make matters any better.

Besides, neither Rio nor Sonic Blue were UK based, and ultimately they let the ball drop, not the engineers who came up with the goods.
I honestly thought he was joking.
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