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#367525 - 12/09/2016 16:17 NAS drives?
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
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I'm going to purchase a new 4-bay Synology NAS later this month, and I'd like some advice on which drives to fill it with.

Mark? wink
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#367526 - 12/09/2016 16:31 Re: NAS drives? [Re: Roger]
canuckInOR
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I've been using 4 WD Red drives. Pretty much identical to WD Green in terms of power specs, but rated for use in a NAS, according to marketing literature. So far, so good.

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#367527 - 12/09/2016 16:43 Re: NAS drives? [Re: Roger]
Dignan
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I have three green and one red. So far so good on all of them. I don't know if I'd notice any performance differences with other drives, since my NAS is pretty much cold storage at this point. I don't use it for as much as I could.
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#367528 - 12/09/2016 16:49 Re: NAS drives? [Re: Roger]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
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smile Dunno about reliability yet, but that new WD Red 8TB unit I just installed seems nice. WD claims it has "NASWare 3.0", which as near as I can tell is a marketing term for "suitable for use in small drive arrays". Which implies that it has TLER to keep RAIDs happy. 3yr warranty here too.

WD Green no longer exists -- got rebranded as Red. smile
Which is a Good Thing(tm) for RAID, since the Green label didn't enable TLER.


Edited by mlord (12/09/2016 16:52)

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#367529 - 12/09/2016 17:31 Re: NAS drives? [Re: Roger]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted By: Roger
I'm going to purchase a new 4-bay Synology NAS later this month, and I'd like some advice on which drives to fill it with.


I, too, am using WD reds in my 2-bay Synology.

I had a weird failure where one of the two drives died, and the second one failed only barely after I'd replaced the first one and got the RAID pair re-synched. So I'm skeptical about WD drives and will be switching to HGST on the next failure replacement and/or upgrade.
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#367531 - 12/09/2016 17:53 Re: NAS drives? [Re: tfabris]
Roger
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Originally Posted By: tfabris
I had a weird failure where one of the two drives died, and the second one failed only barely after I'd replaced the first one and got the RAID pair re-synched.


That sounds like they were likely to be part of the same batch? Is it still valid to expect similar lifetime / failure modes in that case? Maybe I should simply buy a mixture of manufacturers?

As it is, I'm going to put some older disks I have lying around in it, so that I can play with the various disk configurations before I start trusting it with all of my data.
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#367532 - 12/09/2016 19:06 Re: NAS drives? [Re: mlord]
Dignan
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Originally Posted By: mlord
WD Green no longer exists -- got rebranded as Red. smile

Interesting! Didn't know about that. I'll probably just get another red one if I replace those green drives.

The most discouraging thing about upgrading a device like the Synology is that you don't gain the space you're adding. I have 3 3TB and one 4TB drive. If I replaced a 3TB drive with a 6TB drive next (for around $235 according to Amazon right now), I'd only get another ~1TB of space laugh I'd only see real advantages on the second drive replacement. Oh well, so it goes. So far I'm only at 5TB of the 8TB available, so I have a while.
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#367533 - 12/09/2016 19:06 Re: NAS drives? [Re: Roger]
Dignan
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Originally Posted By: Roger
As it is, I'm going to put some older disks I have lying around in it, so that I can play with the various disk configurations before I start trusting it with all of my data.

I did the same, and just replaced as I went. It worked just fine.
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#367538 - 13/09/2016 16:49 Re: NAS drives? [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
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Originally Posted By: mlord
WD Green no longer exists -- got rebranded as Red.


Correction: The WD Green drives rebranded as Blue, with a trailing Z on the model number.
http://techreport.com/news/29251/western-digital-paints-its-green-hard-drives-blue-in-rebranding

Reason for wanting a Green/Blue drive: single drive, not part of RAID, so the drive should try harder to recover from errors.

Reason for wanting a Red drive: part of a RAID array, so the drive should give up sooner on errors, allowing the RAID to handle recovery.

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#367708 - 09/10/2016 17:06 Re: NAS drives? [Re: Roger]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5680
Loc: London, UK
Originally Posted By: Roger
Maybe I should simply buy a mixture of manufacturers?


This turns out to be remarkably difficult. If I search for NAS drives (on the assumption that they've got TLER), I end up with WD Red, WD Red Pro, Seagate NAS, and Seagate Enterprise NAS as my only options.

I'm considering buying 1 WD Red and 1 Seagate NAS from one distributor, then waiting for a couple of weeks (or using a different distributor) and doing the same again to see if I get a different batch...

Or am I being paranoid?
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#367710 - 09/10/2016 18:50 Re: NAS drives? [Re: Roger]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
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Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
I bought three identical WD drives (I should have bought different ones, but I was i a hurry). They all came from Scan in the same order.

Judging by their warranty expiry dates on WD's website, two were manufactured in August and one was manufactured in February !
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