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#87086 - 12/04/2002 09:43 empeg stolen
bmiller
member

Registered: 11/04/2001
Posts: 150
Loc: Sacramento, CA, USA
My serial number is 090000822
The empeg was in the canvas empeg logo bag.
It was on my desk at work and someone took it there. I'm pretty confident that whoever took it probably doesn't know what it is and will make contact for questions and/or a docking sled.

I am deeply saddened by this tradgedy because of the pride I had in owning this product and being part of this movement.

If you could keep your ears peeled. I would appreciate it.

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#87087 - 12/04/2002 09:46 Re: empeg stolen [Re: bmiller]
Micman2b
addict

Registered: 27/12/2001
Posts: 441
Loc: Central, NC, USA
Sorry to hear about you loss.

I will keep a eye out ...
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#87088 - 12/04/2002 09:47 Re: empeg stolen [Re: Micman2b]
bmiller
member

Registered: 11/04/2001
Posts: 150
Loc: Sacramento, CA, USA
Sacramento California, USA.

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#87089 - 12/04/2002 09:56 Re: empeg stolen [Re: bmiller]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Very sorry to hear it. Does your company have video cameras around anywhere? We have them at our front door and in the parking lot for security. If you have them and let the security people know, I'm sure they could pull a tape and look to see if anyone's walking out with an Empeg-sized bag.
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#87090 - 12/04/2002 09:59 Re: empeg stolen [Re: tonyc]
bmiller
member

Registered: 11/04/2001
Posts: 150
Loc: Sacramento, CA, USA
We do, but we employ several thousand workers here so chances are slim.
I'll certainly follow up my report with this question.

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#87091 - 12/04/2002 10:10 Re: empeg stolen [Re: bmiller]
robricc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Sorry to hear of your loss. I wonder what you miss most, the empeg or the bag? I have backup empegs, but only one bag. I would be more pissed about the bag.
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#87092 - 12/04/2002 10:20 Re: empeg stolen [Re: robricc]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Sorry to hear of your loss. I wonder what you miss most, the empeg or the bag? I have backup empegs, but only one bag. I would be more pissed about the bag.

Rob, that is, quite possibly, the most screwed up logic I've ever read on this BBS. The Empegs cost $199 at least, whereas a perfectly acceptable replacement for the Empeg bag can be found for under $20. You can even sew an Empeg logo on there if you need it. Unless you're made of money, I think losing the Empeg is just a bit more upsetting than losing the bag.
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#87093 - 12/04/2002 10:37 Re: empeg stolen [Re: tonyc]
robricc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
The bag is irreplaceable. I have never seen one as perfect. Is that wrong?

PS - I'm not made of money, but I took extreme advantage of the sell-off.
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#87094 - 12/04/2002 10:46 Re: empeg stolen [Re: robricc]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
I'll trade you an original blue empeg bag for a new RioCar.
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#87095 - 12/04/2002 10:47 Re: empeg stolen [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
robricc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Having both colors would be nice, but no thanks. I would have to worry about losing two bags!
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#87096 - 12/04/2002 11:11 Re: empeg stolen [Re: bmiller]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
As stated in a couple of places in the FAQ, please contact support with your serial number.
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#87097 - 12/04/2002 11:25 Re: empeg stolen [Re: robricc]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Having both colors would be nice, but no thanks. I would have to worry about losing two bags!

Oh I get it, so it's money here, mouth there. Are you *sure* you weren't just stretching the truth a little bit to make your point that the bags are cool?

I love the bags too, but they ain't worth no $199!
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#87098 - 12/04/2002 11:27 Re: empeg stolen [Re: tfabris]
bmiller
member

Registered: 11/04/2001
Posts: 150
Loc: Sacramento, CA, USA
Already did.
That's one thing I won't miss about this community.

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#87099 - 12/04/2002 11:54 Re: empeg stolen [Re: tonyc]
robricc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
I am not talking about money. Here's the deal... I am very odd. You should see some of the crap I have in my house. I keep a Betamax around in case I ever need it again. Same with a LaserDisc player. I know I will almost certainly NEVER need these things again. I also know that I will probably be dead before they're thrown out.

Once something becomes unavailable, I start hoarding it. I will not tell you how many empegs I bought because you may have to lock me up. Not to mention tuners, remotes, sleds, screens, etc. Losing the bag would really get to me. Everytime I would carry the empeg out of my car I would remeber the bag, mumbling to myself. This would likely go on for years before I got over it. Losing the Rio fleece would be just as bad. Both are irreplaceable. I was just trying to see if anyone else would miss the bag more than the empeg. Yes, I am aware this behaviour is wrong. I can't do anything about it. I am a sick bastard.

I just thought of another example. My parents are moving and there is a bunch of my stuff still in their house. For example, a bunch of 286, 386, and 486 machines. A case of 256k ISA VGA cards. 9600bps modems. A 40MB hard drive that weighed 25 lbs. Unfortunately, I don't have enough space at my place and they don't want to take it to the new house, so I had to let those treasures go.
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#87100 - 12/04/2002 12:02 Re: empeg stolen [Re: robricc]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Okay I understand, you're an eternal pack rat. Nothing wrong with that, except I would hate to have to clean your basement. Living in a 2BR apartment I can't hoard stuff quite as easily.

You're leaving yourself wide open for the follow-up question though... Why didn't you buy 10 empeg cases when they were available?
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#87101 - 12/04/2002 12:12 Re: empeg stolen [Re: tonyc]
robricc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Why didn't you buy 10 empeg cases when they were available?

They were never available from the US store. I meant to buy them from international, but never got around to it. I probably would have only bought a couple though, not 10.

By the way, I live in a 1 bedroom appartment. My dining room table has stuff all over it. Every inch of floorspace not necessary for walking has a/v equipment and computers on it. I don't even know what's in my closets anymore. MTV should do an episode of Cribs at my place. It would be astonishing.

I also have a thing with telephones. I have 5 phones hooked up in that appartment. 2 would be enough.

Sometime this year I will have to get rid of my stuff. Having girls over is getting too awkward.
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#87102 - 12/04/2002 12:20 Re: empeg stolen [Re: robricc]
eternalsun
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
Remember, you are not a pack rat. You are a collector. ;-)

You need to find a girl who is also a pack rat.

Calvin

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#87103 - 12/04/2002 12:22 Re: empeg stolen [Re: robricc]
jarob2
new poster

Registered: 02/01/2002
Posts: 4
what a weirdo ! not laughed so much since I noticed the 'thanks to strongbow cider' credit printed on the PCB inside the empeg .... (anyone else spot that ?)

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#87104 - 12/04/2002 12:28 Re: empeg stolen [Re: jarob2]
justinlarsen
old hand

Registered: 31/12/2001
Posts: 1109
Loc: Petaluma, CA
lol your my hero rob, 5 phones in a 1 bedroom appartment
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#87105 - 12/04/2002 12:30 Re: empeg stolen [Re: robricc]
BleachLPB
enthusiast

Registered: 01/11/2001
Posts: 354
Loc: Maryland
Awesome. Finally someone that can understand my fascination with keeping old junk. My friends pester me all the time for all the crap I keep around. Moving into my new apartment last September was a painful and arduous process. To this day, there are still boxes of computer parts, an old HP 286 case (you never know), legos, magazines, school papers, books, floppies, etc sitting in my dad's storage loft. I have been called a pack rat on multiple multimple occasions. I didn't sleep right for weeks after moving out, cringing at the sight of my old room at my dads house - vacant.

Trouble is, I also like things neat and organized. Somehow things come together into a happy medium. My things are chronologically ordered into "piles" on my floor, shelves, desk, etc. And who said that the floor was an unacceptable storage location? As messy as my old room was, I always knew exactly where something was whenever needed.

My room in my apt actually has a floor, though. I took thorough advantage of the quadrupled closet space I acquired.

Think of it this way, at least if you took up the deal and got the extra blue carry case, then you would have a backup!

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#87106 - 12/04/2002 12:33 Re: empeg stolen [Re: bmiller]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
I hope you get is back, the rest of us will be vigilant I'm sure.
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#87107 - 12/04/2002 12:42 Re: empeg stolen [Re: robricc]
Anonymous
Unregistered


Haven't you ever seen Fight Club? As Tyler Durden said, the things you own, end up owning you.

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#87108 - 12/04/2002 12:48 Re: empeg stolen [Re: ]
robricc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
I have Fight Club on DVD. One of the best movies I've ever seen. Oh, did I mention I own 3 DVD players? Only one is in use.
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#87109 - 12/04/2002 13:27 Re: empeg stolen [Re: bmiller]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

Sorry for your loss. What capacity was it, in case we see it on ebay?
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#87110 - 12/04/2002 13:32 Re: empeg stolen [Re: pgrzelak]
bmiller
member

Registered: 11/04/2001
Posts: 150
Loc: Sacramento, CA, USA
Originally a 12Gb. A second IBM Tavelstar 12GB was added post purchase. It had the green lense.
You can almost still see where Hugo had signed the empeg branded label on the top, although his signature is illegible as he can attest.

It's name was Sarah... (tears)

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#87111 - 12/04/2002 14:03 Re: empeg stolen [Re: bmiller]
njdboy
member

Registered: 07/01/2002
Posts: 151
Loc: San Jose, CA
I felt bad enough for you without knowing you had named your baby. That was touching. I hope it turns up somehow.

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#87112 - 12/04/2002 17:50 Re: empeg stolen [Re: bmiller]
DisOrd3R
journeyman

Registered: 25/03/2002
Posts: 81
Loc: Cleminton, New Jersey USA

I'm so sorry 4 U. How sad.
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#87113 - 12/04/2002 17:51 Re: empeg stolen [Re: robricc]
phi144
enthusiast

Registered: 15/02/2002
Posts: 314
Loc: New Hampshire, USA
Rob,

Would you consider selling me one of your many backups? I could use one, especially after reading this.
See you at the Boston meet.

Thanks,

Doug
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#87114 - 12/04/2002 18:57 Re: empeg stolen [Re: bmiller]
AndrewT
old hand

Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 867
Loc: Oxford, UK
Assuming that 'lowlife' plans to install it in his/her car:
1. They will need a sled
2. Assuming they aquire one you can search the car park for cars with empeg sleds installed
bmiller, I'm truly sorry to hear of your loss fellah, truly.

Looking forward,
What about a replacement boot partition in the eeprom that performs some kind of user chosen check at boot, i.e. user chosen button press sequence every 100 reboots or every 10 hours of play which makes the player unusable until a correct validation is applied?
To subscribe the owner would register on a www site, enter serial no. (checked against a database of stolen players) and download a tailor made binary to write to the bootloader only. As part of the registration, the original (legitimate) registrant could supply a password to get an unlock code for their own player if they forgot/misplaced the unlock sequence. Additionally, upon registration the owner could possibly state the terms and frequency of re-validation required on their player. I am assuming that the factory serial no. is already stored somewhere in the flash (boot block?) and that the initial installation would verify this before proceeding. I am also assuming that firmware upgrades to date do not alter the eeprom boot partition. I'm thinking that while any cracker worth his salt could break this system easily it's unlikely it would happen.

Even if this suggestion is plausible it won't prevent crackers breaking things. In terms of probability and available cracker resources it's possibly worthwhile e.g. how many cracker hours are out there to do bad things to the Empeg given the few that (presumably) have been stolen to date?

To summarise, I know that potentially locking up an Empeg in the hands of a thief won't prevent theft but it must make the bereaved owners feel happier that their lost Empegs aren't benefiting the thieves?


Edited by Rue (12/04/2002 19:16)

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#87115 - 12/04/2002 19:16 Re: empeg stolen [Re: bmiller]
genixia
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
Man that really sucks.

I wonder if you could persuade your company to send a corporate-wide email pointing out that the unit is useless to the thief, and requesting it's anonymous return.

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