#282918 - 09/06/2006 23:03
How to fix genre tags...
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Registered: 08/05/2000
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I just set up Media Connect on the XBox 360. Very cool, but I can tell that some of my genre tags are screwy. I want to fix the tags on my empeg.
I have my playlists set up as follows:
Genre -> Artist -> Album
What I want to do is to highlight all of the songs in all of the albums in the entire genre playlists, highlight, set the genre, and sync.
I can't figure out how to select every song in a genre. Does it make sense what I'm trying to do? I must be missing something easy...
- Thanx
- Jon
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#282919 - 09/06/2006 23:17
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: jbauer]
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Registered: 08/07/1999
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I can't figure out how to select every song in a genre.Here I was, all set to be helpful and explain how easy it was to select all the songs in a genre with emplode 2.0, when I re-read your post and realized you wanted it for some kind of X-Box thingie. I don't suppose your X-Box works with emplode, does it?  tanstaafl.
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#282920 - 09/06/2006 23:20
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: tanstaafl.]
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I can't figure out how to select every song in a genre.
Here I was, all set to be helpful and explain how easy it was to select all the songs in a genre with emplode 2.0, when I re-read your post and realized you wanted it for some kind of X-Box thingie.
I don't suppose your X-Box works with emplode, does it?
tanstaafl.
Nonono, I ultimately want to stream from my PC to my XBox, but I want to fix the tags ON my empeg using emplode. I want to fix the tags, re-download the files to my PC and make everything perfect in my little universe. Please continue educating me...
- Jon
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#282921 - 10/06/2006 00:15
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: jbauer]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I can't figure out how to select every song in a genre.
More specifically, you want to select every song in the parent playlist named <some genre>, including all songs in all its sub-playlists (the hard part). Then make a single edit to fix the tags (the easy part).
Hm. Tricky. I don't know how to do it in Emplode. Possibly it can be done in Jemplode, but I'm not sure how to do it there either. Anyone?
But even then, even if you can do the edit you're talking about... remember this.
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#282922 - 10/06/2006 00:18
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I know that in Jemplode, you can highlight a playlist, and then do a "Change Color" thingy on it, theoretically (if I recall correctly), color-tagging everything that lies beneath that tree level. But once you've done that, I don't know what good that will do you. It might make songs easier to select in the "all tracks" screen, but I don't know if you can sort on color, or select all colored tracks, or what. I'm out of town without my empeg so I can't try any of these ideas myself.
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#282923 - 10/06/2006 01:54
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: jbauer]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
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Do you have the mp3s on your pc with incorrect tags already ? if you do it would be easier to fix them on the pc then re-upload to the empeg.
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#282924 - 10/06/2006 02:57
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: msaeger]
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Ha! Actually, I deleted them on my hard drive with the intention of fixing the tags on the empeg! Didn't realize that this would be complicated.
- Jon
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#282925 - 10/06/2006 04:34
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: tfabris]
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But even then, even if you can do the edit you're talking about... remember this.
Right. I was planning to use jemplode to capture the emplode tags to the mp3 tags...
Weird thing, I was experimenting with copying mp3s to the empeg using emplode - with JUST the mp3v2 tag set, the tags wouldn't populate properly. With the id3v1 tag set, it would.
I'm using Winamp v5.2 to set the id3 tags, so that COULD be the problem, but that would surprise me.
My concern is that I am considering an upgrade of the hard drives in my empeg and if I do that, I'd need to copy all my mp3s to the new drive(s). I'd of course want to keep the id3 tags that I've been slaving to perfect for the last 5 years. If I have to write them from jemplode as id3v1 tags, then many of the longer song/album/group names would get cropped...
Thoughts?
- Thanx
- Jon
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#282926 - 10/06/2006 05:18
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: jbauer]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
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I would download the tracks then fix the tags and then reload the empeg.
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#282927 - 10/06/2006 05:38
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: jbauer]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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with JUST the mp3v2 tag set, the tags wouldn't populate properly. With the id3v1 tag set, it would.
The only way that situation could happen is if there was additional garbage appended to the file, something that wasn't MP3 audio data, and wasn't a tag. Such as album art or lyrics that were just plain text at the end (as opposed to a true SYLT tag).
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#282928 - 10/06/2006 05:44
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: tfabris]
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The only way that situation could happen is if there was additional garbage appended to the file, something that wasn't MP3 audio data, and wasn't a tag. Such as album art or lyrics that were just plain text at the end (as opposed to a true SYLT tag).
Hm. If data like that is on there, I can't see it with Winamp.
I'll try with some more mp3's that I've created myself.
- Jon
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#282929 - 10/06/2006 11:59
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: jbauer]
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Hm. If data like that is on there, I can't see it with Winamp.
You wouldn't see it with WinAmp. You'd see it with a binary editor like UltraEdit. More information in the usual place: Why does Emplode keep getting my tags wrong?
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#282930 - 10/06/2006 13:31
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: tfabris]
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I ripped a CD with EAC and LAME, edited the tags with Winamp, and then tried to copy to my empeg using emplode. Tags don't import. Must be Winamp...
Need to do more experimentation.
- Jon
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#282931 - 11/06/2006 02:03
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: jbauer]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Didn't someone else report problems with winamp 5's tags?
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#282932 - 11/06/2006 07:18
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 13/07/2000
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Why does Emplode keep getting my tags wrong?
Heh. I love the way that writeup makes it sound like the MP3's fault, not Emplode's, that Lyrics tags aren't supported.
Peter
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#282933 - 11/06/2006 11:33
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: msaeger]
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Registered: 19/09/2002
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Loc: East Coast, USA
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On the computer, a tag editing program (Tag&Rename recommended) can tag all the genres in your genre playlist in about three clicks and 15 seconds. Highly recommended.
When cleaning my tags, my empeg found bad-data tags that neither Winamp or Tag&Rename could find. Easily fixed by dropping the MP3 in Notepad and trimming the bad data off the end of the file. Do a windows search on *.mp3 looking inside the files for "Brava". MusicMatch Jukebox, I believe, put loads of bad data at the end of every file it encoded. That'll teach me to download MP3s off the Internet...
I've found my MP3s are quite resilient to hacking in Notepad, allowing me to trim off long silences at the end of songs, etc. You can kind of tell where the frame starts and ends, just select and delete.
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#282934 - 11/06/2006 14:30
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: peter]
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Heh. I love the way that writeup makes it sound like the MP3's fault, not Emplode's, that Lyrics tags aren't supported.
It does support it if it's a proper TAG placed inside the proper kind of ID3V2 field. It's only when it's plain ASCII text splatted haphazardly onto the end of the file that Emplode gets it wrong.
I know that there's something someone calls a "lyric tag" that's formatted that way, but personally I refuse to recognize that kind of sloppy specification as a proper tag format.
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#282935 - 13/06/2006 22:42
Re: How to fix genre tags...
[Re: tfabris]
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I'm pretty sure that if the ID3 V2.x tags contain "non-standard" parts, emplode will get confused and not parse anything for that file, when you're uploading. What I do now is clear the existing ID3 stuff, and re-gen it all. There's a fantastic, free program for this: http://www.id3-tagit.de/Only possible downside is that it requires dot-net framework 1.1.
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