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#133171 - 05/01/2003 00:36 if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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Loc: Providence, RI
choose death.


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#133172 - 07/01/2003 12:25 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: Daria]
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why? what is kdb and kgdb?

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#133173 - 07/01/2003 12:34 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: ]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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Loc: Providence, RI
kernel debuggers, in patch form, for Linux.

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#133174 - 07/01/2003 12:37 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: Daria]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
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I love this little blurb, taken verbatim from the kgdb website:

"modifications to fault handlers - Kernel gives control to debugger when an unexpected fault fault occurs."

An unexpected fault fault? I guess that's much worse than an unexpected fault?

Looks like they need to debug their documentation a little bit.
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#133175 - 07/01/2003 12:49 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: tonyc]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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I think this is a double fault. There are triple faults, also.

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#133176 - 07/01/2003 13:10 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: Daria]
tonyc
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Oh okay, my fault.

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#133177 - 07/01/2003 14:14 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: Daria]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4172
Loc: Cambridge, England
choose death

What if the options are kdb, kgdb, or the KGB?

Peter

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#133178 - 07/01/2003 14:58 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: peter]
ineedcolor
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Registered: 10/01/2001
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Or KMFDM.....
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#133179 - 07/01/2003 15:36 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: peter]
Daria
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#133180 - 07/01/2003 15:43 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: Daria]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
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Hah, that's funny, I knew someone who was in the CMU KGB a few years back.
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#133181 - 07/01/2003 16:06 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: tonyc]
Daria
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Who?

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#133182 - 08/01/2003 16:48 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: tonyc]
davec
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Registered: 18/08/2000
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Loc: Georgetown, TX USA
The Keep Geeks Busy organization?
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#133183 - 08/01/2003 16:58 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: davec]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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Loc: Providence, RI
That would be the one. I never actually joined, but I did show up and throw pennies at the treasurer a few times.

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#133184 - 08/01/2003 17:05 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: Daria]
davec
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Registered: 18/08/2000
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A friend/cow-orker went to CMU. I asked if he was ever in the KGB and he said "The Keep Geeks Busy club? They were a strange bunch... And no I wasn't one of them..."
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#133185 - 08/01/2003 17:26 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: Daria]
tonyc
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Deanna Rubin. She was a rather prominent member of a BBS system in Philly that I used to frequent back in the day. Quite the "opinionated intellectual snob" type, but fun to argue with on occasion.
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#133186 - 08/01/2003 19:59 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: tonyc]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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Small world. She still shows up on our instant message system, despite having moved away.

Our instant message system (Zephyr, from MIT) is ripe with argument.

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#133187 - 08/01/2003 20:13 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: Daria]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
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Small world.

Ain't it, though? It's funny how many of my old friends and acquaintences from the BBS scene I've run into here or there. Never really kept in touch with Dee after she went to CMU and I went to the State Penn. Moved away, eh? Not back to Philly, I presume?

Our instant message system (Zephyr, from MIT) is ripe with argument.

In stark contrast to the Empeg BBS! And what's CMU doing using MIT software? That's like the cable guy ordering DirecTV isn't it?
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#133188 - 08/01/2003 20:23 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: tonyc]
Daria
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Moved away, eh? Not back to Philly, I presume?
Other side of the country.

And what's CMU doing using MIT software?
We don't have NIH syndrome. Every time someone tries to get NIH syndrome I berate them. Sometimes it even works.


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#133189 - 08/01/2003 20:40 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: Daria]
tonyc
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Heh yeah, but there is a fair amount of friendly competition between CMU and MIT...
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#133190 - 08/01/2003 20:44 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: tonyc]
Daria
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I work for Computing Services. I have no "friendly competition" with the people who work for MIT I/S. On the contrary my wife and I just visited one of them on occasion of his birthday 4 weeks ago. What the recruiters do, I don't care about: CMU was a crappy experience for me, and while it looks like it's improved, that doesn't help me now.

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#133191 - 09/01/2003 07:55 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: Daria]
tonyc
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CMU was a crappy experience for me

What was crappy about it?
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#133192 - 09/01/2003 09:46 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: tonyc]
Daria
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The whole experience

The facilities that existed for leisure were thoroughly lame. It didn't help that the old student union building was failling apart.

Of course the new one isn't a student union. It's a university center, and the governance of such proves that it's not a student union.

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#133193 - 09/01/2003 09:54 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: Daria]
djc
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Registered: 08/08/2000
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i was at CMU for grad school in 1989-91. i haven't been back to see the new university center, but i don't recall having any free time to hang out in the student union, anyway.

--dan.

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#133194 - 09/01/2003 09:56 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: djc]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Really. I've never heard of anyone judging a university on the quality of the university-provided entertainment before. Lack of local drinking establishments and nude nightclubs, yes, but student union, no.
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#133195 - 09/01/2003 09:56 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: djc]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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You needed to be more of a slacker.

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#133196 - 09/01/2003 10:32 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: wfaulk]
Daria
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Ohio State has an ice rink and a bowling alley. CMU has crap.

The temporary student union hosted the CMU model railroad club, in an old building. They found no room for us in their new $20-some million dollar building.

The experience was wholly unpleasant, and I hate them for it, which is why I've been taking their money for 8 years now.

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#133197 - 09/01/2003 10:37 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: Daria]
tonyc
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That'll teach 'em! If you can't beat 'em, work for 'em!
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#133198 - 09/01/2003 11:14 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: Daria]
Roger
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which is why I've been taking their money for 8 years now.

I hope you're slacking off as much as possible. You wouldn't want to be providing value for that money, would you? That doesn't seem like a good way to get your own back.

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#133199 - 09/01/2003 11:20 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: wfaulk]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
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Really. I've never heard of anyone judging a university on the quality of the university-provided entertainment before. Lack of local drinking establishments and nude nightclubs, yes, but student union, no.

Yeah, the university I went to didn't even have a student union in any real sense (there was a stationery shop, but that was basically it). Of course, the fatal flaw in that theory is that the rest of Cambridge didn't have any decent nightlife in those days either. What was I thinking?

Peter

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#133200 - 09/01/2003 19:04 Re: if you can choose kdb, kgdb or death [Re: tonyc]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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Loc: Providence, RI
Well, it did mean they bought my last semester for me.

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