Question re: Song titles and elipses

Posted by: trevorp

Question re: Song titles and elipses - 29/08/2000 14:31

This one has me stumped...

I just re-ripped Time Life's Classical Thunder with VBR. When I added it to my Classical Playlist, all of the filenames are truncated with elipses (..) at 30 characters.

I have deeper playlist directory structures (this is just \Classical\Classical Thunder) and longer song titles, without this happening...

Any suggestions?

-Trevor

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Posted by: tfabris

Re: Question re: Song titles and elipses - 29/08/2000 14:39

all of the filenames are truncated with elipses (..) at 30 characters.

Your ripping software deliberately truncates the ID3 tag fields at 30 characters because this is the standard for the ID3 V1 specification. As long as the songs have V1 tags only, they will be limited to 30 characters on your PC's hard disk.

Work arounds:

1) Use tagging software that follows the ID3 V2 tag specification, which has unlimited field length.

2) Edit the names after you have placed the songs into the Empeg, which also has unlimited field length.

Personally, I'm happy with all my tags at 30 characters since the Empeg's screen won't display much more than that anyway. I do make sure to substitute my own abbreviations in place of a hard truncation. Sometimes, with a little thought, you can come up with a better abbreviation than your ripping software would supply.

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Tony Fabris
Posted by: borislav

Re: Question re: Song titles and elipses - 29/08/2000 16:41

Personally, I'm happy with all my tags at 30 characters since the Empeg's screen won't display much more than that anyway.

Can't Empeg display the full title via scrolling? The main reason I went to the trouble of using id3v2 was so that I don't have to truncate song titles like "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving With a Pict" and "Time (The Old Tree With Winding Roots Behind the Lake of Dreams Mix)".

Borislav



Posted by: tfabris

Re: Question re: Song titles and elipses - 29/08/2000 17:07

Can't Empeg display the full title via scrolling?

Yes, but it only does this on certain screens, not on every screen. Still, you're perfectly welcome to fill out the long titles, either in ID3V2 or in Emplode, and they will work just fine on the Empeg.

Even on the screens which it does scroll, though, I personally wouldn't want to sit through an entire long title like that. I'd rather see my abbreviation scroll by quickly than watch one of those long titles scroll by.

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Tony Fabris
Posted by: GeorgeLSJr

Re: Question re: Song titles and elipses - 29/08/2000 18:00

Well, some of us like long scrolling text. So there... I think it's more of a perfection thing, than anything else.
Speaking of ellipses, I thought this thread was going to be about something else I noticed. Song titles that begin with a parenthesis get listed first on the list. ANSI'ly speaking, this makes sense, but I think it should be ignored and listed alphabetically by the first letter or number of the title. I suppose this belongs in the Wishlist forum, so I'll go put it there...

George
Posted by: trevorp

Re: Question re: Song titles and elipses - 29/08/2000 18:24

Doh!

I recently started using EAC and LAME for my encoding, and hadn't noticed this. Now to see if they support id3v2 tags.

Thanks,

-Trevor

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Posted by: Kureg

Re: Question re: Song titles and elipses - 01/09/2000 10:57

My personal favorite

A Huge Evergrowing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Center Of The Ultraworld (Loving You)



Kureg


Posted by: PaulWay

Re: Question re: Song titles and elipses - 02/09/2000 00:28

And not to forget Vision 4/5's work in five parts:

Lighting the fire of oneness between two furrows of the mercurial sea (a 3-D holo-sonic adventure).

Which reminds me - this track has the property of having a third channel encoded in that is supposed to be played by a third speaker, hooked on the positive terminals of the left and right speakers. Can the audio engineers out there tell me if they think that would work, and would it be completely ruined by the MP3-encoding process?

I tried it directly off the CD and it worked quite well.

Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs.
Posted by: Henno

Re: Question re: Song titles and elipses - 02/09/2000 00:39

third channel encoded (..) that is supposed to be played by a third speaker, hooked on the positive terminals of the left and right speakers.
Huh, . . what is it supposed to do ?

I tried it directly off the CD and it worked quite well.
what did it do?
any different effect than hooking up an extra speaker between plus left and right when playing any other CD?

Henno
mk2 6 nr 6
Posted by: Dignan

Re: Question re: Song titles and elipses - 02/09/2000 14:15

I have a question about one of the visuals. If you're scrolling through and you get to the visual right after stardust, the first scrolling text visual, what the hell is that little character before the song title? Does this show up on anyone else's empeg? I can't tell what, if anything, it is!

DiGNAN
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Posted by: tfabris

Re: Question re: Song titles and elipses - 02/09/2000 14:30

first scrolling text visual, what the hell is that little character before the song title? Does this show up on anyone else's empeg?

It's not a character, it's random garbage graphics from the frame buffer, a sort of blitter. This is a bug. One I thought had been swatted a long time ago, but recently was reported in the Bug Reports section again.

Toby, are you listening?

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Tony Fabris
Posted by: PaulWay

Re: Question re: Song titles and elipses - 02/09/2000 16:10

In reply to:

Huh, . . what is it supposed to do ?

Ah, yeah, sorry, forgot to say. You put the third speaker behind you and it gives a surround effect. Sounds do seem to move around on the sides and cross over and stuff.

Paul

Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs.

Posted by: rob

Re: Question re: Song titles and elipses - 02/09/2000 17:01

Toby fixed this months ago, but it made a comeback. He should have it nailed down for the next major release.

Rob