3rd Party Software List
Posted by: FireFox31
3rd Party Software List - 09/01/2005 18:12
Edit: There is now a Third Party Software List on the Empeg Wiki.
Speaking of Greg Comb's forgotten open source player has finally pushed me to post this:
Is there any maintained list of all 3rd party empeg software? If not, let's create one. For now, if you want, reply to this thread with links to software you've written, know about, or stuff that's been long forgotten like the replacement player.
We all know Hijack, jEmplode, emphatic since they are linked at the top, but every now and then I see posts for cool software that I know I'll forget about (ie:
cushman's empeg web lite).
Maybe when I get some time (not immediately, unfortunately), I will troll the BBS and internet and create a webpage (not just a thread which can get lost) linking to all 3rd party empeg software and utilities which are helpful for the empeg (ie: taggers, MP3toFID, etc). Or is this already out there? And if it is, how can we let people know about it?
Posted by: SonicSnoop
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 09/01/2005 18:22
Here are a couple that come to mind:
TTS - Using flite - Works rather well except for the one volume bug where it blasts the speech at full volume.
TTSClock - using pcmplay
RioPlay Thread
SSH on the Empeg
emPacman
emphatic
SYLT Lyrics Plugin - For adding lyrics to mp3s for display in empathic
Squash thread
Skunk's Boot Logos - More boot logos then you will ever know what to do with.
Charcoalgray's Web Interface
Empeg Web Lite thread
Ill add some more if i can find them. This is a good idea Ive always wanted to start my own little list but never got around to it. *Just adding them as I find them no specific reason for the order.
Posted by: drakino
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 09/01/2005 21:02
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and create a webpage (not just a thread which can get lost) linking to all 3rd party empeg software and utilities which are helpful for the empeg (ie: taggers, MP3toFID, etc).
If you want, I can grant you FAQ editing powers so it could be a section of RioCar.org instead of a seperate page you would have to worry about hosting.
Posted by: SonicSnoop
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 09/01/2005 21:36
I did notice that the RioCar web page has a few applications listed that you can no longer get to. page doesnt exist. maybe if someone out there has them we can setup a repository somewhere for them so we dont loose em.
I seem to remember something before you could Right Click to download files (and before we had ftp in Hijack) that let you download files from the empeg. It was a hack, but I don't remember if was a command line thing or ftp. Actually, I think it was command line because I remember it crashed after so many tracks
EDIT: And Mark Lord's Fidsift
Tony Fabris made empegface and LogoEdit.
Someone made a program that converted gifs or jpgs into the .raw format for the Escher visuals.
Posted by: tman
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 09/01/2005 21:50
You thinking of mirrordb which made the symlink farm?
empeg Tetris
empeg pacman
empwake
empeg Tray
empeg VNC
That .raw thing is called: emRAWerterv101
Mark Cushman's Palm application "palantir".
And I see something in my "3rd Party Aps" folder called "EmpegMusicCatalogue.zip" that has a Word document in it... Looks like something that exported your database to a .doc file.
emptool (?) is one that came up, but was that from the empeg guys?
Someone in 2002 made a replacement player. His name was elessar ("Thomee").
Link. I remember people being a little hostile to him at the idea of making a replacement player! "How dare you! What's wrong wtih the empeg software!?" (As I type this, the thread I linked to has everybody complimenting him! I wonder if I was thinking of a different thing or if he had another thread going too.)
rsync
Frank van Gestel's Displayserver. <-- This is the one I was thinking about to download mp3s. 2001!
Richard Lovejoy's Volume Adjust (integrated into Hijack.)
Posted by: cushman
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 09/01/2005 22:50
Posted by: tfabris
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 10/01/2005 00:30
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Is there any maintained list of all 3rd party empeg software? If not, let's create one.
There is a whole section of RioCar.org just for third party empeg software. It merely needs someone with the gumption to fill it out and keep it up to date.
I keep my entries in there up to date (pretty much Face and Logoedit I think), but don't bother to work on the rest of it.
Posted by: SonicSnoop
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 10/01/2005 01:34
I wouldnt mind helping out some with maintaining the third party software list. Would be nice to be able to give something back to this community. especially since i cant create my own third party software just yet.
Posted by: cushman
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 10/01/2005 02:36
I wouldn't mind seeing all the apps on one page instead of split into separate pages by category like they are now (in Downloads). They could be categorized on one page, but keeping them all on one with some logical categories would help. Kind of like a FAQ entyr page.
I agree. Anytime I'm looking for something there, I don't know what area to look in. And if I find it, it is often out of date. Having someone volunteer to keep that up-to-date would be great as long as links to web site of the creater are still there.
Posted by: tfabris
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 10/01/2005 05:01
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Anytime I'm looking for something there, I don't know what area to look in.
Agreed. Whoever settles on being the one to maintain it, that can be their first job, de-categorizing it.
Posted by: schofiel
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 10/01/2005 12:18
It was a registry entry for emplode.
Posted by: mcomb
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 10/01/2005 20:15
The few things I've done over the years...
ext3 filesystem support (now part of hijack source)
EmpMenuX OS X empeg control widget
bmpTo4bpp java bitmap to empeg startup screen converter from before jEmplode had this ability
-Mike
Posted by: FireFox31
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 00:40
Wow, lots of software!! Thanks for all the links.
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If you want, I can grant you FAQ editing powers so it could be a section of RioCar.org instead of a seperate page you would have to worry about hosting.
Hmmmmmmmmm. Considering that the only thing in life that makes me happy is organizing *stuff*, this may be a perfect job. How much is the current page open to reorganization/redesign? Would I need to learn PHP to work it?
I would love to reogranize the RioCar.org download section. Just give me a little time to figure out a good system, and I'll get right on it!
Posted by: bonzi
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 05:55
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Considering that the only thing in life that makes me happy is organizing *stuff*...
Rare talent and disposition! If you ever pass through Zagreb, you are free to have a try at my CDs, books, old computer, aviation and popular science magazines.... They surely need some organizing! 
Seriously, this will be very helpful. I mosly forgot about many nice SW bits and pieces that sprung around our toy.
Posted by: julf
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 08:21
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If you ever pass through Zagreb, you are free to have a try at my CDs, books, old computer, aviation and popular science magazines.... They surely need some organizing!
Ummh... As anyone who stayed here around the last Amersfoort meet can testify, you just described my back office - except that in addition to books/magazines, there are also numerous pieces of hardware in there... Probably a Land Rover engine somewhere under all that rubble...
By the way, how is Zagreb these days? Might actually want to check it out again, Elaine and I are looking for a suitable place to take the Morgan down to during a spring break week.
Posted by: Micman2b
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 09:38
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Probably a Land Rover engine somewhere under all that rubble..
Sounds like my computer room, I think there is a Datsun LZ22 engine ubder there somewhere..
Sean in NC
Posted by: wfaulk
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 13:51
I
had to take a picture while I was there. Sorry.
Posted by: tman
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 14:00
So kids! Where's Wally?
Posted by: julf
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 14:26
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So kids! Where's Wally?
Who cares about Wally! But if you spot that darn Land Rover engine, let me know!!
Posted by: bonzi
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 15:20
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By the way, how is Zagreb these days? Might actually want to check it out again, Elaine and I are looking for a suitable place to take the Morgan down to during a spring break week.
What can I tell you, a little spleepy Mitteleuropean city.... Beer, wine and food are decent, though, and there are lots of little twisty roads nearby (in hilly Zagorje region), suitable for driving the Morgan semi-seriously.
When have you been here? What were impressions?
Posted by: julf
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 15:48
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When have you been here? What were impressions?
A very memorable trip - it was just before the civil war, I was a guest speaker at the Yugoslavian Unix User Group meeting, and ended up going Zagreb-Ljubljana in the dark and in very thick fog (and in a hurry), thus not exactly enjoying those nice, twisty mountain roads
Flew out in a 8-seater piston cessna that didn't go over as much as in between the Alps. Have to say I was very happy when I heard the Munich Air Traffic Control on the radio...
Posted by: bonzi
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 16:21
Heh, sounds fun!
Fog is quite frequent on Zagreb-Ljubljana road (mostly proper highway, finally). I had some memorable night drives there myself. Should you choose air transport, today it would be A320 (or ATR42, worst case
)
Let me know if your plans firm up!
Cheers!
Posted by: JBjorgen
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 16:27
Since we're already completely off topic, what is the phonetic american english pronunciation of Ljubljana? I always feel like an ass trying to say it how it's spelled. I've never heard it pronounced (by anyone who knows how to say it anyway.)
Posted by: bonzi
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 16:33
Errr, I don't know how to represent 'LJ'... I'll try to find a mic somewhere and pronounce it myself
Ah, I found it in my Webster, but don't know how to enter all those characters, so here comes the GIF.
Posted by: julf
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 17:34
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Since we're already completely off topic
So let me continue to take it even more off topic... My (now deceased, but she got to 99) grandmother brought back a metal sign from Zagreb long ago.. It says (as far as I can remember - it's now with my brother in Finland) 'Osigurala "Kroatia"'. So what would 'Osigurala' mean?
Posted by: julf
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 17:36
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Should you choose air transport, today it would be A320 (or ATR42, worst case )
All too used to ATR's - prefer the Saab 340's myself.
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Let me know if your plans firm up!
Will do!
Posted by: pim
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 17:50
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what is the phonetic american english pronunciation of Ljubljana?
It's not so hard: l-yoob-l-yanah, but there's no pause between the L and the Y
You can also use the german name, which is much easier: Laibach
You've guessed it: the industrial 80's band "Laibach" are
from Ljubljana.
Pim
Posted by: JBjorgen
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 17:54
Thanks. With a last name like Bjorgen, one would think I could figure that out on my own. Oh well.
Posted by: bonzi
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 18:01
A little square metal sign with a picture of a happy family or something like that? "Osigurala Croatia" means "Insured by Croatia" - our oldest 'national' insurer (120 years; not very much, but we were part of Austria then). Interseting trivia: it was founded mostly by Catholic Church capital. They want it back now. I thought Christ drove merchants out of the temple
Posted by: julf
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 11/01/2005 18:04
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I thought Christ drove merchants out of the temple
He did, but they didn't stay away for long
Posted by: cushman
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 14/01/2005 16:47
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If you want, I can grant you FAQ editing powers so it could be a section of RioCar.org instead of a seperate page you would have to worry about hosting.
Hmmmmmmmmm. Considering that the only thing in life that makes me happy is organizing *stuff*, this may be a perfect job. How much is the current page open to reorganization/redesign? Would I need to learn PHP to work it?
I would love to reogranize the RioCar.org download section. Just give me a little time to figure out a good system, and I'll get right on it!
Please don't let this die! Did Tom give you access to modify the Downloads section of riocar.org? Any ideas on it?
Posted by: drakino
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 14/01/2005 20:22
Oops, missed his reply about that. I'll look into getting you set up with editing powers this weekend FireFox31. No real PHP skill is needed, just basic HTML tag experience.
Posted by: FireFox31
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 15/01/2005 00:20
Not letting it die, don't worry. Thanks for checking Drakino.
I have to see what's out there before a method of organization can come together. Maybe I'll hack together some mockups of layouts (if the layout can change, that is).
Here's a thought: Assuming that "riocar.org" is a non-profit organization, we could use Google's
Public Service Search on the site. It's free, has no ads, can be altered to our "look and feel", and uses Google's typical super search power. Maybe that would help people find stuff quickly. Or would the database nature of the site get in the way?
Posted by: TheRhino
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 23/02/2005 23:56
Just a heads up. I went to download the EmRAWerter utility (see
FAQ) and the link was dead. Anyone have a fresh link to this, or can someone post the download? must... change... image... pan...
You have mail.
Posted by: Ezekiel
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 28/02/2005 02:59
Admins: Can we make this a sticky post?
-Zeke
Posted by: matthew_k
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 28/02/2005 04:15
I would ask that things become FAQ entries instead of sticky threads. This forum already has 2 stickies out of 12 threads on the first page.
Perhaps the BBS softwawre needs a de-stick thread option for users.
Matthew
Posted by: Ezekiel
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 28/02/2005 11:38
Ok, I modify my request - can it be stickied until Firefox31 gets things arranged on riocar.org or it gets FAQ'd?
Posted by: RobotCaleb
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 28/02/2005 13:49
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I would ask that things become FAQ entries instead of sticky threads. This forum already has 2 stickies out of 12 threads on the first page.
Click here to change your post display settings
12 is a small number of posts. try something larger, perhaps?
Posted by: matthew_k
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 28/02/2005 15:56
Huh, interestingly enough, the bbs doesn't count stickied threads in the number it shows. I guess that negates my argument. It just seems like stickied threads are aimed at forums where people don't know how to search or read the FAQ. I'd personally prefer that stickied threads be used for short term announcements to get peoples attentions, but if I'm in the minority it's sure not gonna kill me to scroll a bit more.
Matthew
Posted by: TheAmigo
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 05/04/2005 03:56
I've been away from the bbs for a while and doubt I'll ever catch up on everything I've missed...
My current project is my
carputer Basically, it's small PC in the trunk with WiFi, a GPS and ethernet to the empeg. Without a screen, I'll be needing the empeg for audio feedback. Some of the feedback can be pre-built wav files (along the line of TTSclock), but for other things, I'll need full TTS (e.g. reading news headlines or my email to me. So that'll get me working on TTSd again and I hope to finish up the next couple simple steps of making a single binary that doesn't need a shell script to run (really shouldn't be too bad, the hard part is already done).
In the mean time, the download links for the same old versions of TTSD have changed. They're now:
TTSD 1.0a1 TTSD 1.0a2TTSD 1.0a3If someone does oraganize a central download page, please grab the files from the above and mirror them... I don't have good upstream bandwidth
Posted by: SonicSnoop
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 05/04/2005 11:52
You have just made my day !
Posted by: tonyc
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 05/04/2005 12:59
Good to see you back again!
I'm not yet promising to deliver on the "central download page" bit, but because I'm very interested in the ttsd project, I'm happy to mirror the releases on my page, linked in my signature.
Posted by: FireFox31
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 05/04/2005 22:51
Central download page will happen!
Wait till the button project is on auto-pilot and I get my 64meg board to test all this cool software. Then the depth of the Programming forum and external empeg sites will be mined for every piece of empeg software that can be found!
Posted by: cushman
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 09/05/2005 11:55
Can a mod sticky this thread until the riocar.org software page gets done?
Posted by: Daria
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 09/05/2005 12:09
May not be the best idea, but I've done it for the moment.
Posted by: Robotic
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 08/06/2005 00:32
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Is there any maintained list of all 3rd party empeg software?
I don't know who takes care of this page, but several links are not functional.
http://coderage.org/empeg/
I've scoured the internet with Google, hoping to find a download site for empwake, but I haven't been succesful. Does anyone have any experience with this ap? Is it worth tracking down? Any info would be appreciated.
I'm currently using my PC as an alarm clock, but would like to use an empeg.
Posted by: mtempsch
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 08/06/2005 07:19
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Is there any maintained list of all 3rd party empeg software?
I don't know who takes care of this page, but several links are not functional.
http://coderage.org/empeg/
I've scoured the internet with Google, hoping to find a download site for empwake, but I haven't been succesful. Does anyone have any experience with this ap? Is it worth tracking down? Any info would be appreciated.
I'm currently using my PC as an alarm clock, but would like to use an empeg.
tonyc has a page on empwake on his homepage, here, but the tarball isn't where the link on the page points to. Poked around a bit but didn't locate it... try sending tonyc a PM, maybe he still has a copy stashed somewhere.
I just found a copy of 0.95alpha on disk here, if anyone wants it, holler and I'll post it.
Posted by: Robotic
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 08/06/2005 19:57
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tonyc has a page on empwake on his homepage, here, but the tarball isn't where the link on the page points to. Poked around a bit but didn't locate it... try sending tonyc a PM, maybe he still has a copy stashed somewhere.
I just found a copy of 0.95alpha on disk here, if anyone wants it, holler and I'll post it.
Ah- yes I found that page also, but haven't yet tried to email tonyc.
Do you use empwake? Or did you only download and save for future use?
I'm wondering how well it works 'day-to-day'.
Thanks!
Posted by: tonyc
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 08/06/2005 21:24
Whoops.
Sorry, those links have been broken for awhile and I've totally been lazy. Fixed now.
I can't vouch for whether empwake currently works well, as my empeg generally remains in my car now, so I don't use it anymore. When I did use it, it worked quite well. What it doesn't have is any kind of automatic installation like emphatic does, so if you decide to install it, you should be familiar with the UNIX shell, vi, and so forth.
Posted by: mtempsch
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 09/06/2005 12:08
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Do you use empwake? Or did you only download and save for future use?
I'm wondering how well it works 'day-to-day'.
Thanks!
Not currently - and not in a long while. IIRC I tried it at the time - also with 1.0, and don't recall anything obvious amiss...
I do admit to squirrelly tendencies , but the 0.95alpha was found in a definately non-obvious corner of the drive (as in "Why would I ever have put that file _there_?")
Due to how the apartment is set up/furnished/wired etc, I couldn't be bothered to rearrange stuff , so I never really got into using it apart from testing.
Posted by: mcomb
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 24/10/2005 18:39
One more for the list...
mt-daapd for the empeg. A port of mt-daapd which allows any computer on your network running iTunes to browse and stream music from your empeg.
-Mike
Posted by: guillotine
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 08/11/2005 23:55
"You are now leaving"?
Posted by: mdavey
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 30/11/2005 08:00
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I don't know who takes care of this page, but several links are not functional.
http://coderage.org/empeg/
That is my site. I am not currently active in the Empeg community and don't really have time to maintain that list (plus, I don't actually have write access to those pages at the moment - long story )
If someone wants to set up an Empeg wiki, I'll commit to moving that info over to the wiki and fixing as many links as I can. I consider those pages to be in the public domain - anyone is free to copy them wholesale and/or modify their copy as they wish.
If no-one is currently in a position to set up a wiki but one gets set up at a later time, maczrool, tfabris and pgrzelak have my email address. The email address on those pages should continue to work in the future, also.
Posted by: wfaulk
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 30/11/2005 12:56
pbwiki offers free wiki hosting. It looks not half bad, if someone wants to set it up.
Posted by: ricin
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 30/11/2005 18:06
I've setup a wiki:
http://empegwiki.orgHave at it!
Posted by: cushman
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 01/12/2005 03:12
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Have at it!
It's been... uh... have-at-it-ed?
Posted by: wfaulk
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 16/12/2005 18:27
The
Third Party Software List now resides on the
Empeg Wiki.
I'm de-sticky-ing the thread. Tony, you want to update the FAQ and the FAQ forum here, please? I'm going to edit the initial post in this thread, too.
Posted by: tfabris
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 17/12/2005 23:30
What, precisely, should I be updating? The FAQ never specifically linked the third-party-software list IIRC. Instead, it listed third party software tools as answers to specific questions.
Posted by: wfaulk
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 18/12/2005 06:16
Sorry. I thought I remembered that you put a link to this thread somewhere.
Posted by: thenominous
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 03/02/2010 13:08
hmmm I guess the empegwiki is long gone then ?
Posted by: drakino
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 03/02/2010 17:17
Posted by: wfaulk
Re: 3rd Party Software List - 03/02/2010 17:46
Yeah, Donato's installation got trashed somehow, and all he has is a database backup, not a MediaWiki export. As such, it's going to take a lot to get it back up. It's still in the back of my mind, though.
As far as I can tell, someone will have to install a new MediaWiki installation, import the database backup, then do a MediaWiki export, then import that into Wikia. If anyone has more time to deal with that than I do, let me or Donato (ricin) know.