which beer are you drinking right now?

Posted by: 303

which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 14:09

10:08 pm in Germland its a Paulaner Hefe-Weissbier Dunkel
Posted by: malicia

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 14:13

10.15 pm in germany: afri coke!!! ...much better than any beer
Posted by: loren

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 14:17

Just finished off a Sprecher Root Beer. MMMMmm..
Posted by: trs24

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 14:28

Well, I'm at work - but I'd much rather be drinking a Guinness! Or a Heineken Dark, or a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, or a Saporro, or... or... or...

- trs
Posted by: JeffS

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 14:48

I'm sitting in an InstallShield training course, and while I don't drink (edit: much), I'd rather not be here.
Posted by: butter

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 14:51

Woo! Sprecher!

[singing]
On Wisconsin, On Wisconsin
[/singing]

One of my favorite beers comes from Wisconsin. They also used to make this one beer that was incredible if you could find it on tap. It was a real dark beer and when they drafted it from the tap it passed through a nitrogen infuser spout. The bartender would hand you this tall glass of nothing but foam. After about a minute or two, the foam would settle into beer and leave you with a perfect 1.5" head. Delicious! Too bad it only lasted a few years.

Can you tell I grew up there and have a soft spot for anything Wisconsin?
Posted by: Redrum

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 14:59

Waiter, Waiter.... Sam Adams please.
Posted by: Tim

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 15:02

After work, I have a hockey game to go too. Definately calls for a Canadien beer (or several).
Posted by: schofiel

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 15:05

I'm not, I'm drinking a pretty nice Cabernet-Sauvignon by Chenet, which is immensely pretentious...

... but also massively cheap and gets me pissed, the cost being the important factor in this case. Sod the taste! Ha ha ha haaaa haa ha ha ha
Posted by: rob

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 15:13

Damn, you posted just too late for our Presidents Day Pub Crawl, otherwise we could have listed quite a comprehensive collection of beers. Toasting a president at each pub, we made it as far as Abe Lincoln

Rob
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 15:26

Unless there was a reference involved, I think you made it much further than most Americans would have, even if they weren't drinking.
Posted by: fusto

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 15:40

Ipswich Ale Oatmeal Stout.
Although I really wish I had a Real Ale.
Posted by: mandiola

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 15:41

St. Pauli Girl. Only thing left in the fridge.

-Greg
Posted by: rob

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 16:39

We were quite dissappointed that we only managed sixteen out of the twenty planned pubs. I think the problem was having more than one drink in some of them. Learned a lot about American presidents though.

Rob
Posted by: andy

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 17:04

23:57 in the UK

No beer I'm afraid, just finished a safe, but tasty Jacob's Creek Shiraz Cabernet 2000. I'm so glad I'm the age I am, imagine trying to find a decent wine in the local petrol station ten years ago...

If it was a great beer it would have been a really good pint of Guinness, or a good real ale. The best beer I have had recently was a good few pints of Ringwood Best down in Dorset.

http://www.ringwoodbrewery.co.uk/Best_Bitter.htm

I wouldn't recommend their Fortyniner though, unless you are on a mission, it's a bit too Old Peculiar http://www.theakstons.co.uk/beer/old_peculier/index.html for my liking...
Posted by: eliceo

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 17:19

where can heinken dark be found?
Posted by: visuvius

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 17:23

I'm not a drinker but i did just finish off a Jones Creame Soda. This is the greatest beverage i've ever come across. Jones rules.

Posted by: ithoughti

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 18:00

I'm drinking the Pale Ale that I just finished brewing at home with Mr. Beer . Not too bad really, a bit fruity for my taste though.

When I'm not drinking that I love Beck's Dark or Rapscallion .

The cartoon Rapscallion girl on the above web page is modeled after my girlfriend. <--- No Joke!!


Edit: Of course my girlfriend has hair and doesn't have horns
Posted by: jimhogan

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 18:24

Ja Red
Posted by: Jerz

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 18:45

aaahhhh yes.... that would be a guiness for me....maybe a fullers in a bit.
Posted by: Jerz

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 18:48

Damn Rob....how 'bout inviting some of us to the next pub crawl....the last time I tried that was in Southern Scotland in '95....had a blast!
Posted by: Jerz

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 18:57

Jacob's Creek? That is funny...my wife likes that except we get it here in GA.
Posted by: tracerbullet

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 19:20

8:18 PM in Minneapolis, MN. 12oz of Lake Superior - Mesabi Red. Damned fine! Although I got it since they were out of my favorite. They stopped carrying it: Flying Dog - Doggy Style. Yeah, gimmicky name, but the best ESB I've ever had, and I'm a hop-head.
Posted by: Folsom

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 19:21

Leinies? I prefer Huber myself.
You do need some cheese curds and some landjaeger to go along...
Posted by: trs24

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 19:29

I just finished a heineken dark and am popping open an Anchor Steam now - and for good reason.

- trs
Posted by: tonyc

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 19:31

Yuengling lager here, and also for a good reason.
Posted by: suomi35

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 19:31

GUINNESS
Posted by: suomi35

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 19:33

Damn, that looks really really good!
Posted by: trs24

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 19:37

Another Anchor Steam

- trs
Posted by: Jerz

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 19:39

Much better? But beer is consider by many as a "health food"....liquid bread...ahhhh yes....where as coke is....well, uh.....not sure exactly but anything but natural...

Posted by: johnmcd3

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 20:02

... but also massively cheap and gets me pissed, the cost being the important factor in this case. Sod the taste! Ha ha ha haaaa haa ha ha ha

In the same vein I am having nice glass of a 1998 Chianti Classico-- cheap, yet deliciously alcoholic!
Posted by: cshuttle43

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 20:32

Guiness, please.
Posted by: trs24

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 20:32

How appropriate for a Motorsport enthusiast such as yourself.

Another Anchorsteam for me. Might have to head to the store in a sec...

- trs
Posted by: clsmith

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 20:43

Boddingtons Pub Ale. Though when I can't find it, which is quite often in my area, make it a Guinness or a New Castle.
Posted by: butter

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 21:07

not really familiar with huber. But speaking of cheese curds, this is Wisconsin so they must be FRIED cheese curds and I perfer Usingers.

And people wonder why Wisconsin is one of the fattest states in the union. huh. go figure.
Posted by: PaulWay

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/02/2003 22:44

4:41PM in Melbourne, I've just got home from work and had a nice cold Cascade Premium

Unfortunately they also make the Green Death, which doesn't pass my lips even if it's free.

Have fun,

Paul
Posted by: boxer

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 02:50

Scottish and Newcastle No.3 Dark Mild at the time you posted - very moorish and not often kept these days.
But I'm always a bit partial to Shepherd Neames ordinary bitter, it's the one I grew up with.

Depite all that I tend to be: Guinness(Pubs), Peroni(House)
Posted by: peter

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 03:46

Unless there was a reference involved, I think you made it much further than most Americans would have, even if they weren't drinking.

Yes, we had a reference -- without it, Abraham Lincoln would have been the next pub after George Washington

Even a feller like Jefferson, who's quite famous for being a constitutionalist, isn't very famous for being a president. "And on lead guitar, Mr Zachary Taylor [kerrrang!]."

It being a pub crawl, the question naturally came up of whether either John Adams was related to Sam Adams. Anyone know?

Peter
Posted by: Ezekiel

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 06:28

From Sam Adams' (the beer Co.) web site:
"No one was better at being a revolutionary than Samuel Adams. His cousin, John Adams, who would later become the second President, was the first to use the term "working the political machine", and he believed Samuel was a master."

Of course the previous sentence states that Sam Adams basically ran his father's brewery business into the ground while fomenting revolution against the British.

-Zeke
Posted by: boxer

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 06:48

As the day goes on, I've just had a couple of large bottles of Cobra with my, 14 item - help yourself to as much as you like Indian Buffet!
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 07:55

Even a feller like Jefferson, who's quite famous for being a constitutionalist, isn't very famous for being a president.
I assume you mean that he's not well known as a US president in the UK. His administration was very important in the history of the US. It was the first regime change (he was a Democratic Republican while the two former presidents, Washington and Adams, were Federalists), and it also cemented the power of the Federal government with the purchase of Louisiana from the French, which is particularly interesting because Jefferson and the D/Rs were opposed to Federal power; they wanted it left with the states.
Posted by: mtempsch

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 11:35

Pilsner Urquell

/Michael
Posted by: TigerJimmy

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 12:01

Tracerbullet, I'm from Minneapolis, too. We should have a Minneapolis empeg meet. :-)
Posted by: Tim

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 13:13

One of my friends at school was from the Czech Republic. His nickname was Czech (go figure, we are innovative and stuff). Anyway, the only beer he would drink was Pilsner Urquell, and drink a lot of it. He use to rattle off some statistic about Czechs drinking the most beer per person in the world or something.
Posted by: matthew_k

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 13:18

I've got a Czech friend and she rattles off the exact same statistic, so there must be some truth to it. She's always excited when Trader Joe's gets Czech beer in stock...

Matthew
Posted by: tonyc

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 15:26

Wasn't Budweiser based on a Czech beer of some sort? "Bud Var" or somesuch?
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 15:39

Budweiser trademark dispute
Posted by: tonyc

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 15:42

Blocked by my company's proxy!

Preposterous!
Posted by: larry818

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 15:52

Last night it was a beer from Taiwan called Tawian Beer. Pretty good if it's not abused in shipping.

Back in 1980 I stayed in Kiev for six weeks. The local beer was so good that when I returned to California, I could no longer accept Budwiser. Usually I have Newcastle Brown (on tap only) or Theakston's.

Among my friends I'm known as The Arrogant Oracle. For christmas one friend gave me a bottle of Arrogant Bastard Ale. This was the nastiest stuff I've ever had the pleasure of coating my wall with. Old battery acid would have tasted better.

Now I've gotta go find some Czech beer...
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 16:11

Here you go (sorry about the HTML character entities):
The trademark dispute

The famous Budweiser trademark is used not only by the Czech company Budweiser Budvar in &#268;eské Bud&#283;jovice but also by other companies. Among them is as well the American company Anheuser-Busch in St. Louis. How did this come about? The history behind the Czech brand being adopted in such a far away country is connected to the business activities of German immigrants in America. In 1852 a certain Mr. Schneider set up a small brewery in St. Louis which soon went bust but production was started up again by a company called Urban and Hammers with financial assistance from a soap manufacturer Ebehard Anheuser. The brewery was given the name 'Bavarian'. As early as in 1857 the brewery went bankrupt and Ebehard Anheuser became the owner. In 1865 he entrusted the running of the brewery to his son-in-law Adolphus Busch who was German and had emigrated to the USA in 1857. Although he was not a brewer he was familiar with European beers from his commercial travels and visits to Bohemia, especially Karlovy Vary and Marianske Lazne. In addition, at that time a number of European beers were being exported to America, among them Pilsner Urquell, Budweiser Bier from Mestansky pivovar in Ceske Budejovice since 1872, and later also Michelob from M&#283;cholupy u Žatce and Liebotschaner Bier from Libo&#269;any u Žatce, which were extremely popular.

It was a German emigrant and drinks salesman C. Conrad who came up with the idea of selling Budweiser beer, or rather Budweiser Lager Bier (obviously also because the name was familiar to the local inhabitants) and began brewing it at his friend's, Mr. Busch's, brewery. Žatec (Saatz) hops then started to be imported and in 1876 an American Budweiser Lager Bier appeared on the local market - more than six hundred years after beer was first brewed in &#268;eské Bud&#283;jovice (Budweis). (It can be proved that Budweiser beer was exported to the USA from 1872). But the two businessmen did not stop at the unauthorised adoption of just this name, soon they were also making Pilsner Beer, Michelob Beer and Liebotschaner Beer, in the last two cases they were brands of beer from Czech breweries in M&#283;cholupy and Libo&#269;any.

After a certain amount of time Budweiser beer was being made on the American continent by other companies such as the Dubois brewery in Pennsylvania (1896-1972). In Brooklyn there was the Budweiser Brewing Cox brewery (1884-1898). Some reports say that the Budweiser brand was also used by beer producers in Canada. In 1878 C. Conrad's company registered the Budweiser Lager Bier trademark in the USA even though he did not own the beer production. Then in 1891 he granted it to the Anheuser-Busch Brewing Association. In 1907 (23.7.) for the first time Anheuser-Busch registered for itself the trademark which led to the unauthorised adoption of the word Budweiser. This combined with the expansion of the American beer led to a conflict with the two large breweries that existed at that time in &#268;eské Bud&#283;jovice - M&#283;št'anský (founded in 1795) and Ceský akciový pivovar (Czech Joint-stock Brewery - founded in 1895, now Budweiser Budvar N.C.). In 1911 the first agreement was reached when for a financial settlement both &#268;eské Bud&#283;jovice breweries permitted Anheuser-Busch to use its registered trademark no. 64125 in all areas outside Europe. The Bud&#283;jovice breweries kept the right to use the word Budweiser, derived from the place of origin, throughout the whole world. However a supplement was added to the contract which stated that Anheuser-Busch was not permitted to use the word 'original' on its products containing the word 'Budweiser'. The result then was that the Bud&#283;jovice breweries permitted AB's trademark to coexist in non-European countries with the geographical name 'Budweiser' which is logically derived from the name of the town of &#268;eské Bud&#283;jovice (Budweis).

New disputes broke out after the Czech Joint-stock Brewery, in accordance with the 1911 contract, registered its trademark Imported Original Bohemian Budweiser Beer from Budweis City in the USA on 10th August 1937. It had been using this as a label since 1934 and brought it to the USA because it contained the geographical appellation of origin. This enabled it to export its beer to the USA. And it made ample use of this opportunity. In 1939, at the time when the border regions of what was then Czechoslovakia had been taken over by the Nazis and the whole of Europe was on the brink of a second world war, another agreement was signed (a week after it was signed the Czech Republic ceased to exist) which meant a significant restriction of the Bud&#283;jovice breweries' rights. They both pledged not to use the names Budweiser, Bud and Budweis in countries specified in the contract on the American continent from Panama northwards and at the same time were forced to make other concessions. They signed partly because they were afraid of their merchandise being seized in the USA and also because they hoped for at least some security and financial compensation. In the contract both Budweiser breweries acknowledged the priority of legal registration but not the priority of the use of the Budweiser name. It is useful here to note how large national tragedies can be quickly misused against companies in the affected country.

In 1978 AB's management, due to Budweiser Budvar's N.C. strengthening position on foreign markets, but in particular in Europe, tried to obtain due financial compensation for the coexistence of both Budweiser brands in Europe. This was not acceptable to the Czech side. Therefore a new round of legal disputes started in a number of countries. After the revolution in 1989 the Anheuser-Busch brewery submitted a proposal to buy a capital share in Budweiser Budvar (1990). This was also the reason why a moratorium on legal disputes was signed and which lasted until 30th September 1994. Two years later, in 1996, the Czech Ministry of Agriculture rejected AB as a strategic partner for the privatisation of Budweiser Budvar. Since then both breweries have only been in contact through their lawyers and as they strengthen their commercial positions the tension grows. At the beginning of the year 2000 the number of legal disputes over trademark rights grew to 40 and the number of patent office proceedings to 45. Budweiser Budvar does not go looking for legal disputes but in the current situation it realises that it has to go through them because they are a part of business. The results which generally end in success for Budweiser Budvar, prove that the company which wants to assert the originality of Budweiser beer over the American copy is on the right route. More so especially since the signing of the GATT/TRIPS agreement in the mid-1990's which around 150 countries, including the USA, have already signed up to, the principles protecting geographical names places Anheuser-Busch at a disadvantage. The signatories to the agreement confirm that they are prepared to protect through national laws the geographical names for places where traditional and renowned products are made and, in so doing, protect the customer from being deceived due to a misuse of such names. This of course is a source of worry to Anheuser-Busch and so it is casting doubt on the geographical appellation of origin contained in the Budweiser trademark and claims that it is only a trademark or an invented denomination.

But it is not at all easy to claim that Budweiser beer, originates from St. Louis. More so because in 1993 during its mass-media campaign in which Anheuser-Busch tried to convince the Czech public of its noble intentions it openly admitted that the name Budweiser is taken from the Czech Republic. Thanks to the phenomenon of geographical names, at the end of the 1990's Budweiser Budvar N.C. also won several important disputes over trademark rights, for example in Switzerland (here Anheuser-Busch had demanded that Budweiser Budvar's trademark 'Bud' be deleted) and in Greece where disputes over Budweiser Budvar's N.C. trademarks 'Budweiser' and 'Budweiser Budbräu' had begun in the 1980's.

In 2000 Budweiser Budvar N.C. has also defended its position in Lithuania where Anheuser-Busch had demanded that Budweiser Budvar's trademarks 'Budweiser' and 'Budweiser Budbräu' be deleted and had requested instead that its trademark 'Budweiser' be registered. The court turned down AB's requests. The same fate awaited AB's legal action in neighbouring Latvia where AB tried to use the court to contest the registration of Budweiser Budvar's N.C. trademark 'Budweiser'.

In 1999 the importer in Great Britain considerably succeeded with the trademark "Budweiser Budvar" when the magistrate court in London rejected AB's case. It occurred after AB contested the information which appeared on the rear labels on Czech Budweiser Budvar beer and as an advertisement in the magazine Cheers to Inns. The texts state that Budweiser beer has been brewed in Bud&#283;jovice since 1265. According to AB the use of this information on products and in advertisements was false, misleading and deceitful. The case was turned down with the justification that the plaintiff had not proved that the information was incorrect. The court's verdict thus confirmed the historical truth that Budweiser beer comes from Bohemia and it has been brewed here for centuries.

The United Kingdom is also the first country where according to a decision passed by the High Court of Justice both companies have the right to register and use the Budweiser trademark. The first verdict in AB's case against Budweiser Budvar N. C. that was connected with the use of denomination on the market was passed by the court in 1984. The second, with the same result as the first, which allows the brands of both breweries to be registered, after a further case brought by the Americans was passed in February, 2000.

Recently Budweiser Budvar N.C. has also had success in the USA where it is allowed to import its beer to external territories such as embassies or UN bodies. After a bottle with Budweiser Budvar beer was said to have appeared in the state of Maryland AB complained to the International Trade Commission. But before the Commission had time to look into the matter an out-of-court settlement was reached between the two companies. They have agreed to adhere to the existing agreements in the USA, including that Budweiser Budvar N.C. can supply its beer to the external territories in the country.

Budweiser Budvar N.C. is also defending its intangible and business rights in Austria (where Budweiser Budvar is the biggest selling imported brand) where Anheuser-Busch is trying to enter under the name American Bud as Austrian law effectively protects geographical terms for renowned food and drink products from misuse. These protected terms also include Budweiser beer (Budweiser Bier) and the term Bud which is not only the brewery's trademark but also a protected geographical appellation of origin according to the bilateral agreement between the Czech Republic and Austria

BORN IN 'BUDWEIS'
(LESSONS IN ORIGINALITY)

1st lesson in originality
Budweiser beer had been made in &#268;eské Bud&#283;jovice for several centuries before Mr. Adolf Busch told the court in 1878: 'The idea was simple - to make a beer of the same quality, colour and taste as the beer made in Budweis or in Bohemia'
(Mr. Adolf Busch's statement made before the District Court of South New York, USA, at 10.30 a.m. on Thursday 26th April 1894).

2nd lesson in originality
Budweiser beer had been made in &#268;eské Bud&#283;jovice for several centuries before America was discovered and most certainly before Mr. Adolf Busch told the court in 1894: 'The brewing process which I have described is the method, according to my knowledge, used to brew beer in &#268;eské Bud&#283;jovice. I have acquired knowledge about this process from books and from people who worked there'.
(Mr. Adolf Busch's statement made before the District Court of St. Louis, state Missouri - USA, in 1878)

3rd lesson in originality
Budweiser beer had been made in &#268;eské Bud&#283;jovice for several centuries before the first Independence Day celebrations and most certainly before Mr. Adolf Busch told the court in 1894: 'Budweiser beer is brewed according to the procedures used for the Czech Budweiser beer'.
(Mr. Adolf Busch's statement made before the District Court of South New York, USA, at 10.30 a.m. on Thursday 26th April 1894)

4th lesson in originality
Budweiser beer had been made in &#268;eské Bud&#283;jovice for several centuries before the Civil War broke out in America and most certainly before Mr. Adolf Busch told the court in 1894: 'Question 163: You stated that each year you test the imported Budweiser beer. When did you carry out the first test ? Answer: I first carried out this test in 1868 or 1869'.
(Mr. Adolf Busch's statement made before the District Court of South New York, USA, at 10.30 a.m. on Thursday 26th April 1894)
Posted by: tonyc

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 19:56

Oh, dude, you didn't need to do that, I can check blocked links when I get home... But I do appreciate it! I was just lamenting my company's draconian filtering of "objectionable" material.
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 20:00

Well, I was busy waiting for my lousy Sun salespeople to find me the password of the T3 that they loaned me so that I could do something with it.

Oh, and I've started tunnelling all my web browsing through an ssh tunnel pointed to a proxy on the other end of my DSL line, so it just looks like I'm doing an extraordinary amount of typing.
Posted by: trs24

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 19/02/2003 23:30

Dmnt... I'm out of beer now. hmpf.
Posted by: LTJBukem

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 20/02/2003 06:44

Paulaner rocks !
Erdinger rocks !

Oktoberfest ROCKS ! One of my best weekends ever ... apparently
Posted by: frog51

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 20/02/2003 07:27

Hmm - remember Oktoberfest '92. Was on a contract out there designing ultra fast Si and GaAs circuits for mobile telecomms and managed to extend my contract until October. Didn't really like beer until that point, but got very into Paulaner Helles. I vaguely recall managing 11 litres of it on my last night there, and feeling very sick on the flight home.

These days a wee bottle of Stella as I get home is a nice start to the evening before getting onto real drinks
Posted by: mtempsch

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 20/02/2003 12:52

some statistic about Czechs drinking the most beer per person in the world


Had a quick google and it appears your friend is correct.

/Michael
Posted by: Tim

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 20/02/2003 12:58

I assumed he was, his sister did a research paper on it. Seeing the U.S. sitting at 12th is painful... I might have to try harder to contribute
Posted by: mtempsch

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 20/02/2003 13:29

And Sweden is is even further down... but then we're in the booze belt (southern europe/mediterranean -> wine, northern europe -> booze, and then the beer inbetween)

Had another quick google for total alcohol consumption and found a good site at WHO, but the presentation is by country alphabetically. A quick scan gives the following list (apprx average of 1998-2000, liters pure etanol consumed per capita and year)
France - 20
Luxembourg - 19
Portugal - 18.5
Moldavia - 18
Ireland - 16
Czech Republic - 15.3
Bahamas - 14.8
...
and some other countries
UK - 9.7
US - 8.7
Sweden - 7

(I might have missed some high consuming country in the list and/or missed a bit in some calculation, but it should be fairly accurate...)
Source
And as they say - it's not the whole truth. Smuggling/private import and moonshining could add significantly to some countries.
/Michael

Posted by: fusto

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 20/02/2003 15:14

Its 5:15 PM EST, just finished replacing the radiator, thermostat and V-belt on my Jeep so today it's Harpoon's UFO (un-filtered offering) Hefeweizen.
Gotta support my local brewery!

Z~
Posted by: trs24

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 20/02/2003 17:07

When I get home I'm definitely having something dark. Maybe a Guinness, maybe a Young's... Who knows.

I only wish they still imported Saporro Dark - that was definitely one of my favorites!

- trs
Posted by: Tim

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 20/02/2003 19:12

Last time I was in Japan was the first time I had Saporro Dark. That beer was amazing. I talked to our local beer importers when I got back, and they said that they use to carry it, but haven't in about a year or so
Posted by: accept

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 20/02/2003 19:23

Drinking Carlton Crown Lager when i'm on beer.

Or Bundy OP & Cola when i want a harder hit !!

I thought all you Americans drank Budweiser !!! Ha
Posted by: tman

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 20/02/2003 19:25

Argh. Stella gives me a headache everytime I drink it! Grolsh is much better IMHO. Then again, I'm not a big beer/lager drinker anyway so I try to keep away from it all.

- Trevor
Posted by: robricc

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 20/02/2003 19:35

If I am drinking Japanese beer, it's got to be Kirin Ichiban. I will have to try Saporro Dark next time, but I don't think I've ever seen it.
Posted by: trs24

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 20/02/2003 23:40

You won't see it unless your actually in Japan. Although - I'm not even sure Saporro makes it anymore.

I thought all you Americans drank Budweiser !!!


**Puking and gagging noises**

- trs
Posted by: Biscuitsjam

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 00:16

Well, here in Georgia, we don't have much choice as to which beers we drink, since almost everything other than Budweiser and Coors Light (AKA horsepiss) is illegal. You can go to the store and buy 195 proof grain alcohol, but beer that is more than 6% (?) alcohol can not be sold in the state. That rules out almost every beer that has been mentioned here.

-Biscuits
Posted by: simspos

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 03:03

You can go to the store and buy 195 proof grain alcohol, but beer that is more than 6% (?) alcohol can not be sold in the state

Time to move maybe !!

Where I live you never seem to get the same beer twice. So in the pub we just choose by specifying "a pint of interestingly named beer please", I wouldn't necessarily recommend this method of buying if you actually want a nice pint of beer, though it does expand your horizons.

But if all else looks crap - STELLA is your friend

Cheers, Sim
Posted by: Jerz

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 03:25

Huh? Don't have much choice? Have you ever been to a Taco Mac or Summits Tavern? Over a hundred beers on tap... including fullers esb, fullers london pride, john courage, guiness (big seller), Paulaner Oktoberfest as well as the Heifewezen, Mackesson XXX, Old Peculiar, Tenants...etc... Just finished the passport club intiation which you have to drink 125 DIFFERENT beers. Fortnately I didn't have to drink any budweiser, miller OR coors because there is such a variety here... You are correct though it does suck that GA has a limit on how much alcohol beer can have, I believe it has to be called Malt Liquor if it is over that limit...

What ever happened to Sam Adams Double Bock, I used to see that at mellow mushroom a several years ago seasonally but haven't seen it lately....very tasty for a microbrew.

Oh speaking of Japanese beer, has anyone heard of Asahi Black Beer? I've only seen it available here in one Sushi Bar but would have to say that it would have to be one of my favorite choices at a Jap Restaurant.

Posted by: peter

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 03:59

Old Peculiar

Old Peculier? In "Southeastern, US"? Good effort! Did it travel well?

Edit: and how does a place with 100 beers on tap get through barrels quickly enough to maintain the quality? or do they not have all 100 on at once?

Peter
Posted by: Jerz

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 06:38

ooops... it was early here when I posted that, wish it was available on tap but at least we do have it in the bottles.

Here's Summits bottled list http://www.summits-online.com/01_sandysprings/bottled_beer_brands.html

and their draft list... http://www.summits-online.com/03_cumming/draft_beer_brands.html

...and yes all of this is available at fine establishments here around Atlanta, Georgia...

Edit: Yes, they are all on tap at once.... I see your point on the quality issue and have wondered that myself; had one skunked John Courage before, but from my experience having a keg at the house for summertime pool parties the Fullers fairs suprisingly well for about three months and besides those English kegs are a bit smaller than our american Kegs.

Also something to mention is that some of the microbrew beer, such as the Hoegarden, Framboise and Taripin is offered in a "bullet keg" which is I *think* about 5gallons. The bullet kegs also make it easier for a Pub with not much more room to add another tap fairly easily since you could probably squeeze it between a couple of 13-14gallon kegs.

Edit Again: The Guinness Toast here is at 11PM tonight (roughly 14hours) is this just a marketing thing here in the US or do yuns have it there too?

Summits: http://www.summits-online.com/
Taco Mac: http://www.taco-mac.com/
Posted by: Tim

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 07:33

Although - I'm not even sure Saporro makes it anymore.

They were making it as of the week before Thanksgiving 2002.
Posted by: robricc

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 07:49

Old Peculier? In "Southeastern, US"? Good effort! Did it travel well?
The Parting Glass in Saratoga Springs, NY has it in bottles. I decided to stick to Black and Tan that night, so I cannot comment on its ability to travel.
Posted by: peter

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 08:20

Here's Summits bottled list and their draft list

Nice! Mine's a Ruddles County if I'm ever passing that way, though Abita Amber is nice too and having Kriek on tap sounds deadly.

having a keg at the house for summertime pool parties the Fullers fairs suprisingly well for about three months

Gosh -- the last time Empeg got a keg (of Lidstone's Session) we were instructed it only lasted five days, and it was getting distinctly less good even on day three.

The Guinness Toast here is at 11PM tonight (roughly 14hours) is this just a marketing thing here in the US or do yuns have it there too?

I've never heard of it, but then I'm not a fan of Guinness (Roger is, though, and I think he just drinks it whenever he feels like it).

Peter
Posted by: peter

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 08:20

The Parting Glass in Saratoga Springs, NY has it in bottles.

It's not at all the same in bottles.

Peter
Posted by: Jerz

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 08:29

Gosh -- the last time Empeg got a keg (of Lidstone's Session) we were instructed it only lasted five days, and it was getting distinctly less good even on day three.

hmmm...did you have it on CO2? or just one of those pump tappers
Posted by: peter

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 08:52

hmmm...did you have it on CO2? or just one of those pump tappers

We had it on a spigot, gravity-fed. It was ale, don't forget. I guess CO2-pressurised kegs would last longer.

Peter
Posted by: Jerz

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 10:11

We had it on a spigot, gravity-fed. It was ale, don't forget.

hehehe...I'm suprised it lasted THAT long. Yes, CO2 systems are the way to go at least here in the US since we can't get the good English brews that fresh.... I can't say that I've ever been to a Pub here that didn't have a CO2 system or nitrogen system (for Guinness & Boddington).

cheers!
Posted by: Tim

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 10:33

A local microbrewery (The Unlikely Cowboy) only sells their beer on tap, or by the keg. They also have a 'keggie' which is only like 3.5g, but it has a built in nitrogen dispensing system. Way groovy. They actually have one of their Belgium seasonal waiting for me to pick it up after work...
Posted by: Roger

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 10:57

The Guinness Toast here is at 11PM tonight (roughly 14hours) is this just a marketing thing here in the US or do yuns have it there too?

It's a marketing ploy.

To be fair, I've been drinking a lot less Guinness since I moved to Cambridge. This is for two primary reasons:

1. The selection of real ales in Cambridge is generally superb, so I've not really felt the need to.
2. I used to live five minutes walk from Molly Malone's Irish pub in Richmond, Surrey, which served a cracking pint of Guinness. Now I don't.
Posted by: boxer

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 11:25

Moving righr along, another day, another curry, this time with a couple of bottles of Kingfisher - brewed by Shepherd Neames - Yum, Yum.
Posted by: boxer

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 11:31

Old Peculier - I drove past the brewery not three quarters of an hour ago. It's in Masham, Theakston is a nearby village - can't stop, off for some S&N No.3, it's guest beer at my local and he's on the last barrel!
Posted by: Jerz

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 14:15

They actually have one of their Belgium seasonal waiting for me to pick it up after work...

Now, that would be awesome...unfortunately brewpubs just became legal here in the bible belt within the past ten years or so....so I feel lucky to be able to stop by the Buckhead Brewery or Hops to get a taste of some homebrew let alone bring some home with me...
Posted by: trs24

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 21/02/2003 17:08

Marketing ploy or not - I'm having myself a lot of guinness tonight! Cheers!

- trs
Posted by: trs24

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 22/02/2003 15:15

The guinness toast last night was a blast. Any one else participate? There was pleanty of Guinness flowing and pleanty of imperial pints raised.
Posted by: eliceo

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 25/02/2003 00:51

wish I had a guiness right now, but instead im drinking budweiser.
Posted by: davec

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 25/02/2003 07:15

8:09AM CST - While waiting for the ice to melt from "Ice Storm 2003" in Austin, I am drinking Mexican Oaxaca Fina Rojas homeroasted coffee...
Posted by: simspos

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 25/02/2003 08:03

Can I have your Bud then?

Cheers, Sim
Posted by: 303

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 25/02/2003 08:06

cheers Dave!
Posted by: boxer

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 06/03/2003 04:43

Goddam it, the medics have told me that I must not drink an alcoholic drop, beer or otherwise, at least until a further liver function test in three months time.

Hard to think how I have a social life, I'm a stand at the bar and have a chat to whoever is in, sort of guy.

March6, April6, May6, June6 - could be cutting loose in a big way when I get to the meet!
Posted by: trs24

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 14/11/2003 17:29

*bump**bump**bump*

This other thread on beer brought up fond memories of this particular thread. I'm not drinking anything at the moment but in about 30 minutes, I'm heading straight to the store to pick myself up either a sixer of these, or some pints of these, or maybe some of these (recommended by Dave, if they are stocking them yet).
Posted by: mcomb

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 14/11/2003 19:57

*bump**bump**bump*

Might as well keep a beer related thread going

It isn't quite beer O'Clock here yet, but there is some Bass and some Widmer hefeweizen in the fridge. I'll have to try that Sierra Celebration. I burned out on their Pale Ale in college after drinking countless gallons of the stuff. I see they have a new stout out too, wonder if that is any good. Anyway, it is a buddy of mines birthday today so there is definitely a few beers coming in the not too distant future.

-Mike
Posted by: foxtrot_xray

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 14/11/2003 21:37

Of all the nights.. I WOULD be drinking, but I gotta help drive a passenger train tomorrow. I GOTTA be on good behaviour..

Ask this question TOMORROW at this time, and I'll let you know.

Me.
Posted by: speedy67

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/11/2003 08:40

I'd love to have some dark Hefeweizen or my loved Rothaus Tannenzäpfle, but im about to start a therapy against my HCV, which will not allow me to drink any alcohol for at least 6 month.
But OK, i only have one liver, so if it helps...

cheers, Thomas
Posted by: eliceo

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 17/05/2004 22:02

No I am still drinking my crappy budweiser. So many threads die this way and im sure people are still drinking beer. Remember the fridge thread?
Posted by: genixia

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 17/05/2004 22:50

Magic Hat #9 flavored not quite Pale Ale.

Nice beer. Shame I can't find it on their website.
Posted by: davec

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/05/2004 07:03

Magic Hat #9
I'll have to look for this beer when I get up to Bahston over July 4th weekend.
Posted by: g_attrill

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/05/2004 07:36

Hmmmm... went to Makro (UK food wholesalers) a few weeks ago and wanted to get one of their Courage selection boxes but the shelf was empty and the rest was in the middle of a five pallet stack on top of the shelving!! Nobody around even if they can get forklifts out when the store is open.

In the end I got a box of Spitfire from Shepard Neane and a box of Fuller's London Pride. (boxes are 12x 500ml bottles)

Also got a few small boxes of Tiger beer and San Miguel (both very agreeable)

Gareth
Posted by: robricc

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/05/2004 08:55

...San Miguel (both very agreeable)
The only places I've seen that here are not very nice areas. Anyway, I thought it was pretty good as well and I would drink it if only it was easier to get.

Magic Hat #9 tastes a little like peach if I'm not mistkaken? That stuff is pretty good.
Posted by: mcomb

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/05/2004 11:38

a box of Fuller's London Pride

Anybody know where to get London Pride and London Porter in the San Francisco bay area? I became somewhat addicted to the Porter when a local pub was carrying it, but they stopped selling it and I don't recall seeing it anywhere else. The Pride is good stuff too.

-Mike
Posted by: g_attrill

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/05/2004 11:49

This seems to be their US distributor: http://www.distinguished-brands.com/

Gareth
Posted by: bodybag

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/05/2004 12:52

I'll have a Boddington's in a nice frozen mug please
Posted by: Roger

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/05/2004 15:10

Well, I just went to the local curry house and had a bottle of Sunny Beaches (scroll down) while waiting for my take-away to be ready.

It's a good lager to have with curry, but I don't think I'd want to spend the whole evening drinking it.
Posted by: mcomb

Re: which beer are you drinking right now? - 18/05/2004 15:11

This seems to be their US distributor:


/me goes to order a pallet of beer

Actually, it is a shame that there is no info on that site. There isn't even an email contact let alone of list of where you can actually find the beers.

-Mike