Posted by: Burgin
Jump-the-shark site for Recording Artists? - 02/04/2004 16:06
Does anyone know of a place that chronicles the downhill of popular recording artists?
For one, I think using landmark recordings like "The Joshua Tree" in this context can be a bit unfair. We're talking about an album that almost any knowledgable fan of rock music has on their top 10 or 20 of all time. Of course there's going to be a letdown from The Joshua Tree to *anything*.Agreed.
[Metallica's] self-titled record was clearly the moment of shark-jumping. There might be some who'd go back further and say "The Black Album" was also crapUmmm, the black album and the eponymous one were the same album. What were you trying to get at?
Ummm, the black album and the eponymous one were the same album. What were you trying to get at?Yes, and I was saying most people recognize that album as the last worthwhile album they made, but there are a sizable minority who think that album also sucked.
Actually the black album is sort of interesting in this regard because while it was a really strong album it represented a sound that ultimatly failed the band. So in a sense the change in sound was "jumping the shark" even though the album itself was really solid. Or at least that's my take.
Zooropa is great.Numb is a good song, I'm just not sure it's a good U2 song. I liked most of Achtung Baby though.
If anything, the band failed the sound.Yeah, your take is better.
"OU812" as where Van Halen jumped the shark
"1984" in my bookI can certainly understand that opinion, and it's certainly where their sound started to change (keyboards, more generally poppy, etc.), but I think it was still a solid album, even if it wasn't really a Van Halen album.
I will point out that if you look at their studio albums in sets of four, the first was always the weekest and the latter two almost always the strongest. In this sense it's almost as if they "jumped the shark" several times in order to re-invent themselves.Yeah, they've always talked about how they tend to move in cycles where each four-album group is a cohesive subsection of their musical focus. That is why they choose to do live albums as "snapshots" at those points. Although the Rush In Rio DVD and album release seem to have messed up that pattern, I'm glad they did it because it makes up for the fact that we never got a DVD out of the Test For Echo (Different Stages) tour.
I can certainly understand that opinion, and it's certainly where their sound started to change
Roger Waters - The Final Cut
Final Cut is a Pink Floyd releaseDavid Gilmour, Nick Mason, and Rick Wright would probably disagree with that statement
The Cure - WishYou should check out "Bloodflowers" if you haven't. It's much more like the Cure again. It's not great, but it's pretty good.
JTS was significant of the moment when, faced with flagging interest in their product/art, the creators/artists/writers ran out of good ideas and resorted to trying something....anything! .... to revive interestExactly...case in point...several episodes of ER this season...Helicopters crashing, etc...
several episodes of ER this season...Helicopters crashing, etc..
_This_ season!?I don't watch the show...it was more of an observation from the commercials I've seen this year.
Sting - 10 Sumners TalesAgreed. That's the one where he lost me, too.
Yeah, it's a good album, but it's the tip of the iceberg for the rest of his overly over produced, "little bit 'a country, little bit 'a pop" albums.
Rush - they've still got it!Of course they do, even though I don't quite care for VT. It's just not my cup of tea. However, their last show was one of the best I've and I love the live versions of the songs off VT, even though they were exactly the same. (I still submit that something just wasn't right with the production of that CD).
Sting - 10 Sumners TalesOne of my favorite CDs. If you thought it was a good CD you shouldn't mark it down just because of its sucessors, especially since you're giving Aucthung Baby a pass (which, as I've stated, I also think is a great album). I haven't bought any of Sting's stuff since TST, though, so I'll have to agree with your analysis of his career.