Sealing a toilet waste pipe

Posted by: Roger

Sealing a toilet waste pipe - 27/08/2005 15:24

So, Jen and I are just putting some new vinyl flooring down in the bathroom. Unfortunately, we've obviously jogged the toilet pan, because there's a minor leak.

It's coming from where the outlet of the pan mates with the waste pipe. There's the remains of some kind of rubber sealant there. I'd like to know what kind of sealant I need to replace it with. Will the stuff that you use around the edge of the bath do, or do I need something different?

While we're on the subject: what should I do about gaps around the edge of the vinyl? I seem to recall some kind of waterproof self-adhesive edging tape that's V-shaped: you put one leg of the V a little way up onto the wall, and the other leg onto the vinyl. This hides the gap, and seals it properly. Did I make this up, or does it exist?
Posted by: Robotic

Re: Sealing a toilet waste pipe - 27/08/2005 15:44

Toilets are typically sealed to the floor with a parafin ring.
It's a one-time use thing: smoosh.
Plumbing store or hardware store is your best best.
Posted by: Roger

Re: Sealing a toilet waste pipe - 27/08/2005 15:57

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Toilets are typically sealed to the floor with a parafin ring.


Apparently it's different in the UK -- as with many things. See, for example, the picture on the right on this page.

You can see the waste pipe leaving the pan and going horizontally to the wall, where (presumably) the waste pipe is hidden. If you look closely, you can see a ring where the porcelain is mated with the plastic. This is the bit we need to seal.

What I want to know is if I need any specific kind of sealant for this, or will normal cured-rubber bathroom sealant work?
Posted by: mlord

Re: Sealing a toilet waste pipe - 27/08/2005 16:10

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Apparently it's different in the UK -- as with many things. See, for example, the picture on the right on this page.


Actually, that's what toilets also looked like in all of the countries I have been to, except for those in North America.

One would expect a local "home centre" place would know and stock the correct item for sealing that joint.

cheers
Posted by: Roger

Re: Sealing a toilet waste pipe - 27/08/2005 16:17

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One would expect a local "home centre" place would know and stock the correct item for sealing that joint.


Yeah, I guess so. It's just that they're all shut now, and I do have some of the normal sealant, so I was going to give that a shot. I thought I'd check with the BBS first, though, seeing as collectively, it knows everything.
Posted by: Robotic

Re: Sealing a toilet waste pipe - 27/08/2005 16:44

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Apparently it's different in the UK -- as with many things...

Sorry- poor assumption on my part. I can't make any jokes about the Brits mucking up a good design... you invented the dang thing, after all.
Good luck with your plumbing project!
Posted by: boxer

Re: Sealing a toilet waste pipe - 27/08/2005 18:02

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and I do have some of the normal sealant

To cut a long story short, that's the whole answer!!!
Posted by: msaeger

Re: Sealing a toilet waste pipe - 28/08/2005 06:06

I have seen ones like that in the USA but only in public restrooms.
Posted by: schofiel

Re: Sealing a toilet waste pipe - 28/08/2005 19:27

I'm not sure that you can use silicone mastic for a permanent fix: it is a non-bonding sealant, so it will peel off after a while. It doesn't really live well with urea (pee).

The ideal would be a tube of Acrylic sealing mastic, that dries semi-flexible. Even better would be a cyanate-based waterproof toilet sealing mastic (light grey, semi-setting) but this is a bit more expensive and poisonous if you don't handle it properly (good ventilation, plastic/rubber gloves). I would still recommend it as the best repair, though. B & Q should have it.