Plastic repair

Posted by: wfaulk

Plastic repair - 28/02/2006 23:52

A good while back I caught the air dam of my car on one of those standalone curbs that's supposed to tell you when you're all the way in a parking space. Anyway, when I backed out, it ripped the air dam slightly. But it's all one unit with the front bumper, which means that it's really expensive to replace.

So I'm looking to fix it myself. I was initially thinking that I could excise the piece of plastic at the nexus of the rip that keeps it the two pieces from lying in the same plane and then screw or bolt on a patch to hold it steady. But then I thought that it might make sense to ask here.

Any ideas?
Posted by: gbeer

Re: Plastic repair - 01/03/2006 05:24

If you are comfortable with the look of that repair, it should work fine.

Have you gone to a body shop for an estimate. Repairs without buying a new bumper cover are possible. Depends on the damage. You might find it affordable.

BTW: I had to replace a bumper cover recently. The cover part was about $700us.
Posted by: larry818

Re: Plastic repair - 01/03/2006 13:32

They do make repair kits for just this purpose. It comes with a kind of glue to put it back together and a flexible filler to make it smooth again.

These guys have it:

http://store.diyhut.com/carbure.html

I'm not sure I like the look of the kit.

Auto parts stores should have it.
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: Plastic repair - 01/03/2006 13:48

The fact of the matter is that all of the damage is "underneath". That is, on the part of the plastic that faces the road. I wouldn't really care so much about it now besides the fact that one side of it hangs down a little and scrapes on speedbumps, steep driveway entrances, etc. So a repair, regardless of the method, would look better than it does now, as you can see it hanging down a little. Maybe I should take a picture.
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: Plastic repair - 01/03/2006 13:50

Somehoe I don't think that that stuff would hold a rip together.
Posted by: schofiel

Re: Plastic repair - 01/03/2006 15:23

It would help: I was going to suggest something you find over here (the Land of Lotus, ie. plastic, Cars). It's possible to use a plastic welder which gives good results on non-splintered plastic panels - even through paint. Your description here I am having trouble visualising.
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: Plastic repair - 01/03/2006 18:15

Sorry about the terrible image quality, but you should be able to get the idea of what I'm talking about.

Looking straight at the front of the car:


Looking from ground level up to the rip:
Posted by: Robotic

Re: Plastic repair - 01/03/2006 19:11

Plumber's tape and pop rivets?
No quick glue job will hold that.
Posted by: Neutrino

Re: Plastic repair - 01/03/2006 19:18

Yep, I agree. You need to use some form of backing material and rivet it.
Posted by: mlord

Re: Plastic repair - 01/03/2006 22:14

Yup, my suggestion was going to be a small sheet of flat nylon/plastic (or stainless steel) on the backside, with four strategically placed pop rivets.

Cheers
Posted by: gbeer

Re: Plastic repair - 02/03/2006 03:04

Quote:
Yep, I agree. You need to use some form of backing material and rivet it.


Yep, my service manual has a big section of repairing collision damage. A rip like that can be repaired. The process is a lot like what is done for fiberglass repair. It just uses adhesives in place of resins. The particular adhesives depends on the specific plastic and may involve primers.
Posted by: larry818

Re: Plastic repair - 02/03/2006 14:25

Quote:
Somehoe I don't think that that stuff would hold a rip together.


If done properly with a proper kit, the repair is 100% as strong as the original. I've used it myself, many years ago.

Rob mentioned welding, but that only works on rigid plastic panels, which tend to be made of ABS. Your bumber is flexible polyurethane, which can't be welded.

The pop rivet method might not hold up long, as you're fixin' somethang flexible with somethang rigid. At speed, I'm sure there's motion in this area, which will work at the rivets.
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: Plastic repair - 02/03/2006 20:12

So I basically need to find a body shop that will attempt a repair instead of a replacement, then?
Posted by: Robotic

Re: Plastic repair - 02/03/2006 20:35

Repair shop?
That's a Sunday job- 20 minutes, tops.
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: Plastic repair - 02/03/2006 21:10

Give me quality instructions and I'd be happy to attempt it myself.
Posted by: gbeer

Re: Plastic repair - 03/03/2006 02:24

Download the attachment and unzip the web page. The links won't work but the directions are fine.
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: Plastic repair - 03/03/2006 16:49

Cool. It sounds sorta like I'd be making fiberglass. Where do I get these repair materials?
Posted by: gbeer

Re: Plastic repair - 04/03/2006 23:45

Auto supply shop. Your nearest body shop should be able to tell you where they buy supplies.