Wall mount TV how high?

Posted by: tahir

Wall mount TV how high? - 06/12/2011 14:13

Is there a way of determining best height for a (bedroom) wall mount telly, or do you just take a stab? It's hard to tell where it should go at the moment as there's no finished floor, walls or ceiling, but we need to tell the builders where to put the sockets for power etc.
Posted by: Roger

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 06/12/2011 15:00

Presumably, you're planning on hiding the sockets behind the TV?

Is the TV going to be fitted flat on (or into) the wall, or on a mount? If you use a wall mount, they're usually adjustable for pitch, which gives you some freedom with regard to height.
Posted by: tahir

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 06/12/2011 15:18

Originally Posted By: Roger
Presumably, you're planning on hiding the sockets behind the TV?


Yes

Quote:

Is the TV going to be fitted flat on (or into) the wall, or on a mount? If you use a wall mount, they're usually adjustable for pitch, which gives you some freedom with regard to height.


Flat onto the wall. I didn't realise brackets allowed height adjustment. OK will order a bracket and see what it does. Thanks
Posted by: peter

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 06/12/2011 15:26

Brackets allow tilt adjustment, not height adjustment, but the point is that you can have your telly high up and tilted down a bit, or lower down and not tilted down so much, i.e. the availability of tilt adjustment means that the height isn't critical.

The thing you're wanting to avoid, at least for LCD TV, is looking at a TV from below its centre-line. Lots of LCDs have a good viewing angle left, right, and up of centre, but not down.

Peter
Posted by: tahir

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 06/12/2011 15:43

Understood, and it is an LCD so need to be careful.
Posted by: Cris

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 06/12/2011 16:25

Originally Posted By: peter
Brackets allow tilt adjustment, not height adjustment


I have a slim TV Bracket that allows about 12 inch of height adjustment. Not much but it works pretty well.

Cheers

Cris
Posted by: tahir

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 06/12/2011 16:28

Any idea which one it was Cris? Can't see any that are adjustable for height
Posted by: Cris

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 06/12/2011 17:15

I got it about 18 months ago, cheapo eBay jobby, was about £20 and was advertised as an Ultra Slim model. There is very little tilt adjustment on it.

I didn't buy because it was height adjustable, it just turned out it was.

Cheers

Cris
Posted by: Dignan

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 06/12/2011 18:48

This is in a bedroom, so I assume this will be something you want to watch from a bed? In that case I guess it would be higher than in a living room.

I don't know a specific height, but I suppose this would be the only case in which I'd be okay with a TV mounted as high as those who put them over a fireplace. Otherwise I don't really understand that. It's too high!
Posted by: JBjorgen

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 06/12/2011 18:52

Sit on your couch and get someone to measure how high your eyes are off the floor smile
Posted by: Shonky

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 06/12/2011 22:02

Originally Posted By: JBjorgen
Sit on your couch and get someone to measure how high your eyes are off the floor smile

Not for a bedroom.

In the living room I'd aim for my eye line to be in the middle third of the screen. In the bedroom you may want it a bit higher and tilted down since you'll be lying back on the bed.

Edit: tahir: you probably already have the bedroom furniture. You should be able to work out a height from that shouldn't you? If the room is significantly longer/wider then factor in the angle.
Posted by: gbeer

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 06/12/2011 23:20

The plug only has to be behind the set, not exactly in the middle.
Unless its a truly small panel there is a lot of leeway.

For instance I'm looking at a 50" plasma that is 30" tall.
So a plug at 50" would be hidden:
If the set was 22" below an 8' ceiling.
If the set was 26" above the floor.
(Assumes plug center is six inches above or below tv's edge.)
Posted by: gbeer

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 06/12/2011 23:54

Are you putting in a recessed outlet?
Just curious.
Posted by: tahir

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 07/12/2011 08:46

Originally Posted By: Shonky
Edit: tahir: you probably already have the bedroom furniture. You should be able to work out a height from that shouldn't you? If the room is significantly longer/wider then factor in the angle.


No furniture at all. The only thing that'll be coming over from the old house is the sofas
Posted by: tahir

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 07/12/2011 08:47

Originally Posted By: gbeer
Are you putting in a recessed outlet?
Just curious.


Not sure what you mean exactly, this is what we'll be using, the face plates are flush with the wall:

http://www.hamilton-litestat.com/browse_by_range/Sheer.html
Posted by: tahir

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 07/12/2011 08:50

Originally Posted By: JBjorgen
Sit on your couch and get someone to measure how high your eyes are off the floor smile


That'll be my wife, in bed not couch. I'll need protection to stop her poking me in the eye, mind you at least she'll put her knitting needles down.
Posted by: Roger

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 07/12/2011 09:33

Originally Posted By: peter
The thing you're wanting to avoid, at least for LCD TV, is looking at a TV from below its centre-line. Lots of LCDs have a good viewing angle left, right, and up of centre, but not down.


But not all. Our Samsung LE32R41BD has a superb viewing angle in all directions, including down.
Posted by: gbeer

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 07/12/2011 23:39

Originally Posted By: tahir
Originally Posted By: gbeer
Are you putting in a recessed outlet?
Just curious.


Not sure what you mean exactly, this is what we'll be using, the face plates are flush with the wall:

http://www.hamilton-litestat.com/browse_by_range/Sheer.html


Recessed recepticals there are many different ones. Basically they allow plugs, space to reside below the surface of the wall. Some are more difficult to use than others. Theoretically the tv can be closer to the wall.

One of the many
Posted by: peter

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 08/12/2011 09:30

Originally Posted By: gbeer
Recessed recepticals there are many different ones.

Every single one in those search results, though, is for US plugs. There's a reason for that; in fact, there're two. In

Originally Posted By: tahir
Loc: London

most house walls are brick, and installing a 3.5in deep backbox would mean drilling out 3in of solid brick. But even once you'd done that, UK plugs invariable have wires that exit downwards, not outwards from the wall, so you probably wouldn't gain much anyway. If the bulk of the plug was a problem, you could install a flush-mounted FCU -- I don't know whether it's strictly pukka to have a FCU that ends in an IEC socket, but it doesn't seem like that would be unsafe in any way.

Peter
Posted by: sein

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 08/12/2011 11:45

Originally Posted By: peter
Originally Posted By: tahir
Loc: London

most house walls are brick, and installing a 3.5in deep backbox would mean drilling out 3in of solid brick. But even once you'd done that, UK plugs invariable have wires that exit downwards, not outwards from the wall, so you probably wouldn't gain much anyway. If the bulk of the plug was a problem, you could install a flush-mounted FCU -- I don't know whether it's strictly pukka to have a FCU that ends in an IEC socket, but it doesn't seem like that would be unsafe in any way.

Or if it is a modern new build it could be cavity walls and plasterboard which is very easy to work with. Anyway, just wanted to add that in case bulk is a problem you can use MK 995 Clock Connection Unit for TVs on the wall. It is a recessed socket which is completely flush when the square plug is inserted. You do have to cut the plug off the TV and wire into the plug on the MK 995. Rated at 2A, so it is suitable for TVs up to 460W. Its a neat solution in case this kind of thing is ever an issue.

Posted by: tahir

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 08/12/2011 14:38

It's actually a new build (like a still in construction new build) timber frame, there are 50mm battens fixed to the structural walls to allow a service void before the plasterboard goes on. Theoretically around 65mm of mounting depth
Posted by: tahir

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 08/12/2011 14:42

Originally Posted By: sein
Its a neat solution in case this kind of thing is ever an issue.


It is indeed quite neat. Have bought a bracket will test mount it at the weekend to see whether I need something like this. Thanks
Posted by: gbeer

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 09/12/2011 02:19

I did try that search at google.co.uk - it came up with the exact same set of images.
Posted by: andy

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 09/12/2011 05:45

No surprise there, given that we don't use the term receptacle for that item or indeed really have the concept of a recessed version wink

We just don't need them as we have sanely designed mains plugs...
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 09/12/2011 15:18

How can any electrical plug the size of a baseball cricket ball be considered sanely designed?
Posted by: mlord

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 09/12/2011 19:41

Yeah. It's a very intelligent design from a safety perspective. But I've often wondered what effect the huge clunkiness of it may have had on techno progress in the UK. smile

Cheers
Posted by: g_attrill

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 09/12/2011 22:01

Originally Posted By: wfaulk
How can any electrical plug the size of a baseball cricket ball be considered sanely designed?


Having used 240V power plugs in other countries, the UK one is pretty solidly designed for it's use. The Australian power plugs are abysmal, they are basically US pins rotated to 45 degrees. Accidentally jiggle the cable and you get a pretty light show of sparks!
Posted by: tahir

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 13/12/2011 14:03

Originally Posted By: g_attrill
Accidentally jiggle the cable and you get a pretty light show of sparks!


Sounds like fun. Other power plugs/sockets always seem inadequate when you're used to a a UK switched socket/fused plug.
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 13/12/2011 14:55

Which, of course, is designed that way because the circuits are allowed to run much higher current than the outlet, whereas everywhere else in the world, the limit is on the circuit. (Ring topology vs. star topology)
Posted by: Shonky

Re: Wall mount TV how high? - 13/12/2011 19:17

I don't ever see sparks in Australia with any reasonable quality power point (aside from significant inrush current on Dell power supplies that cause sparking/scoring on the plug).

Asia is where you see crappy power points, particularly those multi sockets. I don't think I've ever found a powerpoint in India that works well.