Slashdot Article

Link here, but it looks like the actual review at phataudio.org is phucked.

As per usual, the quality of comments in a slashdot thread is terrible. A huge proportion of the the entire thread is an argument about AAC and whether it's MPEG-4 with the associated name calling. Another chunk is about FLAC and Ogg and finally you get about 20-30 posts that are about the Karma!

In the middle of the night, UK time! The insensitive clods!

Peter

In the middle of the night, UK time!

Simple. Just create a script to grab the RSS feed and watch for "Rio" in it. Then wire it to an alarm clock.

/. rocked in like '98 - now it's crowded with teenagers, who can't tell right from wrong..

\\Kaare

/. rocked in like '98 - now it's crowded with teenagers, who can't tell right from wrong..

I think, more importantly, it is now packed with penguin-headz that don't know right from wrong. I actually gave up even reading comments on /. anymore; don't need waste my time hearing about how Microsoft is evil and Linux is the future.

The tool is important only in how it is used. Would you really want to help a secretary figure out how to use vi?

<shiver>

Would you really want to help a secretary figure out how to use vi?

Nope, and frankly - if you believe that vi is the editor a secretary would be exposed to you're sadly misinformed. Take a look at Open Office or Star Office and tell me what the difference is compared to MS Office that means a secretary couldn't use those.

/Michael

Sheesh... Forgot that a lot of people think Linux is where we all got our start in Unix. Sadly, until the fairly recent past, neither OpenOffice nor Star Office existed. Granted, StarOffice has been around longer than OpenOffice, but if you've ever used one of the early versions of StarOffice, you know Sun deserved a punch in the gut for even releasing it into the wild. You'd also be quite aware that StarOffice was, at best, sad when compared to MS Office. Or A Vic20. One that had a broken <shift> key.

That aside, I think my original point was missed; that Slashdot has, for the most part, become a haven for linux zealots who hate anything produced by Microsoft on sheer principal, without even giving it a chance, but they'll spend all day talking about a pathetic X-Box aquarium..I mean case-mod.

And I still believe in the right tool for the job. I don't use my Wintendo for graphics (with the exception of Photoshop) and I don't use the SGIs for word processing. It would kind of feel like using a Ferrari to plow the driveway...

So I suppose I am sadly misinformed; I figured everyone would be able to tell that the vi comment was humor. Though a certain secretary I know would be offended at the suggestion she would have any problems whatsoever with her fave editor....

Or A Vic20. One that had a broken <shift> key.

That made me laugh out loud.

Linux isn't Unix. Technically neither is SunOS 4, which really is where I got my start; It's closer to BSD, which would be Unix except for those pesky licenses. Well, I guess Sun paid AT&T, so it was Unix. Confused yet?

Nope. Linux is Unix. Linux is NOT Unix. Both statements are true....

Why?

Because in the first case, "Unix" is used in the slang form, ie. "an os which is unix-like". In the second case, it is used in the proper form "That which is wholly owned by SCO".



I started on IRIX, which is not SunOS (what the hell is with their versioning anyhoo?) nor Linux, but is more SystemV with some BSD flavor...

Or is it BSD-like with naught but a whisper of SystemV?

<shrug>

Either way, it works for me and isn't filled with billions of little clock-cycle eaters like some others we could mention...

(with all apologies to the Simpsons)

"Did anyone here create a bloated unix-like OS? You might have been high when you did it.... Red Hat, I'm looking at you...."

>> Or A Vic20. One that had a broken <shift> key.
> That made me laugh out loud.

That made me not-vaguely-enough recall performing the shift-key-mod on our Apple ][+ so that it would also apply to the letter keys as well under some software...

-brendan

SunOS (what the hell is with their versioning anyhoo?)

Since you were dumb enough to ask....

The SunOS kernel version number in version 4 was the same as the marketing release number, 4.1.4, for example. When they moved to version 5, there were a number of changes. The big one is that they moved from BSD to SystemV, with a small smattering of BSD stuff thrown in. At the same time, marketing decided that they needed a new product, and called the whole bundle -- kernel, OS, windowing system, etc. -- Solaris. Since they were still supporting SunOS 4.whatever, and didn't want to orphan it, they retroactively named SunOS 4 Solaris, too. So now they have two versions of Solaris. SunOS 4 was Solaris 1 and SunOS 5 was Solaris 2. Of course, they needed minor revisions for Solaris 2, so they used the minor version number from the kernel. So Solaris 2.5 was SunOS 5.5 plus the rest of the OS plus XWindows, etc. When they got to what would have been called Solaris 2.7, marketing decided they needed another change. They felt that the numbers weren't moving fast enough. So they decided to drop the 2. part of Solaris. So now Solaris goes by just the SunOS 5 minor revision number, so Solaris 8 is SunOS 5.8 plus everything else.

Colloquially, Solaris 2 is called Solaris and Solaris 1/SunOS 4 is called SunOS.

Hope that clears things up for you.

*sigh*

This is really odd. I thought I typed "empeg.comms.net" but I must has typed "slashdot.org.".....

Since you were dumb enough to ask....

True. But I'm smart enough to know when to drop it.

I give!

Nope. Linux is Unix. Linux is NOT Unix.

... in the first case, "Unix" is used in the slang form, ie. "an os which is unix-like". In the second case, it is used in the proper form "That which is wholly owned by SCO".

SCO don't own Unix. They own UNIX(tm).

Your chin fuzz is still showing. Sun had nothing whatsoever to do with releasing early versions of StarOffice in the wild. But they did buy it out at one point, and take it into captivity.

-ml

Sun had nothing whatsoever to do with releasing early versions of StarOffice in the wild.

Stop it, man! Stop it! You're making me nostalgic!

Your chin fuzz is still showing

Damn. And I thought I did a decent job of shaving today.

But, never let it be said that I can't admit when I'm wrong. True about Star Office. Let me rephrase....

"Ahem....Whosoever may have been responsible for the non-domesticated variant of StarOffice, of any version, should be shot. Not in an alley, but on primetime. Preferably after the Simpsons, but not too soon after; I like to check my email and have an iced tea after the Simpsons...."

I mean no sarcasm in that. I was wrong, but I think the rewrite sums up my opinion fairly accurately.

Moreover, I can't believe I'm even commenting on any of this.....

*sigh*

I'm gonna go play with my cat and remember that there's only one real OS/software package/computer/etc...

And that's the one that gets the current job done.

I figured everyone would be able to tell that the vi comment was humor.

A would've helped to clarify things.

I'm sorry if my humor detector is miscalibrated, but no, I didn't see the humor in your comment.
Maybe because I hear comments like that, seriously meant, way to often in real life...

Same thing with the "it's to hard [for the user] to install" -- how many end users at a big company install the OS on their own?

And yes, I agree that /. is mostly useless nowadays.

/Michael

As an addendum to Bitt's post

According to the Register Solaris 8 and 9 are now free.

Sure enough, though I doubt you can get 8 for free. They don't like to give away the older ones for some reason.