Posted by: tahir
Play order - 12/03/2004 04:56
I record a lot of radio programmes which I transfer to the Karma for listening, they're renamed sequentially based on date and placed in a playlist. When I play this playlist the play order seems to be random, even though Shuffle is off and the playlist is in sequence. What am I doing wrong?
Posted by: rob
Re: Play order - 12/03/2004 05:51
I guess your Track Number tags are wrong or not filled in at all.
Rob
Posted by: tahir
Re: Play order - 12/03/2004 06:13
They're not tagged, so does the Karma only work on tags?
Posted by: tahir
Re: Play order - 12/03/2004 06:27
And another thing, if I tag them how does it know whether I want to play in Track No or Title order?
Posted by: peter
Re: Play order - 12/03/2004 06:48
renamed sequentially based on date and placed in a playlist
The tags shouldn't matter if they're in a playlist. Do they appear in the right order in Karma's Playlists menu? Do they appear in the right order in Rio Music Manager's Playlists tab? (Make sure it's sorted by the "Index" column.)
Peter
Posted by: tahir
Re: Play order - 12/03/2004 07:14
They appear in the right order in RMM, bit on the Karma they're all jumbled, here's the first couple of lines of the playlist:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:2340,01-Climate Wars 20-01-2004 -
01-Climate Wars 20-01-2004.mp3
#EXTINF:894,02-My Life In Orange 21-01-2004 -
02-My Life In Orange 21-01-2004.mp3
#EXTINF:1739,03-Filling The Void 21-01-2004 -
03-Filling The Void 21-01-2004.mp3
Posted by: peter
Re: Play order - 12/03/2004 07:25
on the Karma they're all jumbled
Crazy. Are they in the same jumbled order each time, or does it re-jumble them every time you select the playlist?
Peter
Posted by: tahir
Re: Play order - 12/03/2004 07:47
Are they in the same jumbled order each time, or does it re-jumble them every time you select the playlist?
Same order, starts with track 27 then 24,35,08 etc, I've just played the playlist in Winamp and it's fine.
Posted by: tfabris
Re: Play order - 12/03/2004 11:15
And another thing, if I tag them how does it know whether I want to play in Track No or Title order?
Track ordering information should never exist in the title field, so I would think that it would always play in track number order. If the track numbers aren't filled in, I would suppose they'd play in FID order (i.e., the order the files landed onto the hard disk, which could in theory be random.). Neither of those things has anything to do with the track title, I would hope that the track title is never used to determine order.
Posted by: tahir
Re: Play order - 12/03/2004 11:29
Track ordering information should never exist in the title field, so I would think that it would always play in track number order. If the track numbers aren't filled in, I would suppose they'd play in FID order (i.e., the order the files landed onto the hard disk, which could in theory be random.).
I'll tag 'em & try again
Neither of those things has anything to do with the track title, I would hope that the track title is never used to determine order.
No, you're right, but if my playlist is created in filename order then that's the order it should be played in isn't it? (Used to be OK on my iPod)
Posted by: tfabris
Re: Play order - 12/03/2004 11:41
but if my playlist is created in filename order then that's the order it should be played in isn't it?
If by "playlist", you are referring to an M3U file on your PC's hard disk, I don't think the Karma uses those at all other than to extract file names for importing.
If you want a created-on-the-karma playlist (which is not an M3U file) to play in order, then you have to order it yourself.
Posted by: peter
Re: Play order - 12/03/2004 11:57
If by "playlist", you are referring to an M3U file on your PC's hard disk, I don't think the Karma uses those at all other than to extract file names for importing.
Well no, but it should certainly do so in the right order. Epwc, what happens if you transfer the playlist again from RMM? Is this the latest RMM (2.60)?
Peter
Posted by: tahir
Re: Play order - 14/03/2004 03:40
Hello Peter & Tony
I didn't reply because I'm still having problems with RMM crashing/hanging, I cut down my music library to just 40/50 files and managed to get it run, when I looked at the Karma playlist it wasn't in the correct order. I couldn't copy the playlist over again with RMM it kept crashing, so I downloaded RioRad and did it with that, the Karma playlist is now in the correct order.