Posted by: robricc
Trekstor Vibez - 28/08/2006 17:10
http://www.dapreview.net/news.php?item.3565.5
Interface looks familiar. Touts "Rio DJ"-like features.
Interface looks familiar. Touts "Rio DJ"-like features.
Trekstor Vibez
Posted by: peter
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 28/08/2006 17:57
I love Google's German-to-English translator:
noticeable by its almost womanlike seeming exterior,
[...]
By Crossfading the user can over-dazzle also Songs.
[...]
you can buy your mad bought music piece only on iPod and if he goes in 10 years broken and it gives no new more, you are the verarschte customer
Seems genuine though.
Peter
noticeable by its almost womanlike seeming exterior,
[...]
By Crossfading the user can over-dazzle also Songs.
[...]
you can buy your mad bought music piece only on iPod and if he goes in 10 years broken and it gives no new more, you are the verarschte customer
Seems genuine though.
Peter
Posted by: rubennyc
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 28/08/2006 21:09
Hmmm, peter, I was hoping you might be able to verify if that is indeed the GUI & STMP3600 feature set we've all been waiting for. Sure is the most promising player by far since Chroma and Avalon were deep-sixed.
Posted by: rob
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 29/08/2006 15:18
Extremely familiar looking user interface!
Unfortunately the German site now seems to be down.
Rob
Unfortunately the German site now seems to be down.
Rob
Posted by: robricc
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 29/08/2006 15:36
It's up for me (or it's reading out of my cache). Here's a screen grab:
Posted by: rob
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 30/08/2006 06:21
So let's see what someone with no brand presence to speak of can do with the technology. For my money they're already a step further than Rio managed - they're actually about to release the product! Well, hopefully 
Rob
Rob
Posted by: boxer
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 31/08/2006 10:58
Quote:
I love Google's German-to-English translator
They don't do so bad in welsh either. This report doesn't blame Google, the radio report did, but you would think that a Welsh government body would have better sources.
Posted by: gorman
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 04/09/2006 15:21
If only they had done a 30-40 GB version... I can't live with 15GB as successor for Karma... 
Posted by: gorman
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 13/09/2006 12:30
Quote:And now that iPod is finally catching up with gapless playback... it becomes really hard not to succumb...
If only they had done a 30-40 GB version... I can't live with 15GB as successor for Karma...
Posted by: altman
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 22/09/2006 06:25
Believe it or not, Trekstor outsell Apple in Germany - or at least that definitely was the case a few months back... so they do have big brand presence (seen their F1 and DTM sponsorship?), just not anywhere english-speaking!
Hugo
Hugo
Posted by: gorman
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 02/10/2006 18:14
Quote:Then why the heck aren't they releasing a version with a bigger drive. Damn!!!
Believe it or not, Trekstor outsell Apple in Germany - or at least that definitely was the case a few months back... so they do have big brand presence (seen their F1 and DTM sponsorship?), just not anywhere english-speaking!
Posted by: rubennyc
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 02/10/2006 19:52
Check the specs again. The 15GB has lost some weight and is now known as "12 GB".
Posted by: rob
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 02/10/2006 20:20
Quote:
Then why the heck aren't they releasing a version with a bigger drive. Damn!!!
Because this product is in the "microdrive" category - it uses physically TINY little drives. Presumably they or others will apply the Sigmatel technology to "full size" 1.8" drives if it's successful.
Rob
Posted by: rubennyc
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 02/10/2006 22:42
Quote:Quote:
Then why the heck aren't they releasing a version with a bigger drive. Damn!!!
Because this product is in the "microdrive" category - it uses physically TINY little drives. Presumably they or others will apply the Sigmatel technology to "full size" 1.8" drives if it's successful.
Rob
Interesting approach. The way I see it, the chances for success would go up dramatically with 1.8" drives.
Posted by: robricc
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 02/10/2006 23:49
Posted by: rubennyc
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 03/10/2006 01:06
Thanks for sharing the pics! As you can tell, I really don't have that great a sense of what size drives fit into what kinds of cases. Was flash ever an option? It may be completely psychological, but I'd personally feel better about spending cash on an 8 GB flash Vibez over a 12 GB HDD Vibez.
Other than physical size, what kinds of benefits does the 1" drive offer compared to the 1.8". I'm asking 'cuz I really really want to like this player. My beloved Karma is pushing 3 years of age and this is the first player I've gotten excited about since, well, the Karma.
Other than physical size, what kinds of benefits does the 1" drive offer compared to the 1.8". I'm asking 'cuz I really really want to like this player. My beloved Karma is pushing 3 years of age and this is the first player I've gotten excited about since, well, the Karma.
Posted by: robricc
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 03/10/2006 01:32
I have no insight into why a hard drive was chosen over flash. Once we see the real-world price of the Vibez, it may become more clear.
The Vibez uses a Cornice Storage Element which is what was used in the original Rio Nitrus at 1.5GB. From what I remember, it's nothing like a microdrive, so you couldn't even plug in a Compact Flash card if you wanted something solid state.
The Vibez uses a Cornice Storage Element which is what was used in the original Rio Nitrus at 1.5GB. From what I remember, it's nothing like a microdrive, so you couldn't even plug in a Compact Flash card if you wanted something solid state.
Posted by: gorman
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 03/10/2006 06:44
Quote:
Was flash ever an option? It may be completely psychological, but I'd personally feel better about spending cash on an 8 GB flash Vibez over a 12 GB HDD Vibez.
Psychological or not, the same applies here. With the iPod Nano at 8GB Flash... I think these guys, unfortunately, don't stand the slightest chance.
And it really saddens me, because as Rob said, if this is not successful, chances of seeing a bigger capacity one will go the way of the dodo...
And to clarify, I wish this wil be a resounding success. I just can't justify spending money for an hard drive based player that is significantly smaller than Karma when, in reality, I need one which is significantly larger...
Posted by: rubennyc
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 18/11/2006 11:27
For folks following this, Trekstor posted a Flash demo and the User Manual.
The UI on this puppy has all the trappings of Karma, minus the Dock & Network menu options. I do see some additional improvements over the Karma besides the obvious color and album art support:
- One touch Shuffle on/off
- Wired remote option
- Infrared remote option for controlling it while docked.
I see no evidence at all of an Ethernet port on the dock. I guess that means bye-bye jEmplode once I eventually buy this.
They're still planning a 15 GB version, but probably not until Q2 '07.
The UI on this puppy has all the trappings of Karma, minus the Dock & Network menu options. I do see some additional improvements over the Karma besides the obvious color and album art support:
- One touch Shuffle on/off
- Wired remote option
- Infrared remote option for controlling it while docked.
I see no evidence at all of an Ethernet port on the dock. I guess that means bye-bye jEmplode once I eventually buy this.
They're still planning a 15 GB version, but probably not until Q2 '07.
Posted by: DLF
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 22/11/2006 20:44
Posted by: robricc
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 22/11/2006 21:54
Ooof... That price (for something with a hard disk) isn't going to make these things very popular.
Posted by: wfaulk
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 23/11/2006 02:52
So other people don't have to look, $200/$230.
Posted by: andy
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 24/11/2006 07:14
Now $170/$200...
Posted by: rob
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 24/11/2006 14:50
Quote:
Now $170/$200...
Glad I waited then!
Actually I'm going to have to wait a bit longer after getting a puncture last night. 500 quid for two tyres, ouch
Rob
Posted by: altman
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 25/11/2006 09:45
I've got an 8GB one on order; the drive, despite being a Cornice is the new standard design for 1" drives and other vendors make drives with the same physical size & connectors - eg Seagate and Hitachi.
On the downside, these aren't CF drives, they're sub-CF form-factor - so you won't find them as easily as CF drives - but they do exist.
Hugo
On the downside, these aren't CF drives, they're sub-CF form-factor - so you won't find them as easily as CF drives - but they do exist.
Hugo
Posted by: JBjorgen
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 25/11/2006 11:56
Hmm...my Karma's showing its age. Tempting. Maybe a merry Christmas for me
Posted by: matthew_k
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 26/11/2006 03:16
Quote:
I've got an 8GB one on order
Well, I sure hope you use it at work.
Matthew
Posted by: altman
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 27/11/2006 09:07
Hey, I'm at the factory in china with my Karma
Hugo
Hugo
Posted by: SuperQ
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 28/11/2006 04:43
lol, and I thought apple hired you to do design work, not work in the slave mines 
Posted by: rob
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 29/11/2006 15:34
Quote:
On the downside, these aren't CF drives, they're sub-CF form-factor - so you won't find them as easily as CF drives - but they do exist.
In other words, call a Seagate distributor and request a couple of samples. I'm right on it
Peter - is any software nobbling going on that would make this a problem?
Rob
Posted by: peter
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 29/11/2006 16:16
Quote:
In other words, call a Seagate distributor and request a couple of samples. I'm right on it
Peter - is any software nobbling going on that would make this a problem?
There is no software nobbling, but (and this is "public" information because anyone with a voltmeter could easily discover it) the particular brand of drive presently used is slightly unusual in being operable at 3.0V, rather than requiring 3.3V as most competitors do.
And AFAICT there are no released drives bigger than the 12GB already available in a Vibez.
Peter
Posted by: rob
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 29/11/2006 17:34
Oh well, 12GB will do me. It's not like I ever really use portables these days (Virgin Atlantic's in flight entertainment system put a stop to that). Mostly I just want to see how much of the UI I can recognise!
Rob
Rob
Posted by: altman
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 30/11/2006 18:08
You're obviously not flying enough then (or sleeping too much on flights) - Claire's pretty much blown through everything she wants to watch on the virgin system now
Hugo
Hugo
Posted by: rob
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 30/11/2006 21:29
Quote:
You're obviously not flying enough then (or sleeping too much on flights) - Claire's pretty much blown through everything she wants to watch on the virgin system now
You mean she got bored with with watching Peep Show over and over again??
Rob
Posted by: SuperQ
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 11/12/2006 16:29
Anyone here got a vibez yet? quick review?
Posted by: FireFox31
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 01/04/2007 23:29
How has the Vibez been faring out in the wild since we last checked? Is the wheel holding up? Is the software solid, or at least receiving updates? Did it really turn out to have the Karma/empeg functionality that we love? How's the price and availability?
And the most curious question: Has anyone hacked a different add on board where the tuner should go? Or is it even possible?
I'd forgotten about these until mentioned elsewhere recently. I sadly have no need for one, but maybe I could create one.
And the most curious question: Has anyone hacked a different add on board where the tuner should go? Or is it even possible?
I'd forgotten about these until mentioned elsewhere recently. I sadly have no need for one, but maybe I could create one.
Posted by: rubennyc
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 02/04/2007 08:44
How has the Vibez been faring out in the wild since we last checked?
I love mine. Use it every day.
Is the wheel holding up?
Beautifully. Need more options for allowing/disallowing certain functions when the player is locked.
Is the software solid, or at least receiving updates?
Solid, yes, except for one major bug that causes the player to hang if you save a playlist when repeat is enabled. No updates have been announced publicly yet.
Did it really turn out to have the Karma/empeg functionality that we love?
For the most part, yes. (I own a recently deceased Karma. Never had the pleasure of meeting an empeg.) Sadly, it is missing the ability to manage playlists independent of the Now Playling list.
How's the price and availability?
Fairly priced. Only two stores carry it in the US: J&R and B&H, both in NYC, which works out fine for me.
All in all, I rank Karma a little higher than Vibez, and Vibez higher than everything else.
I love mine. Use it every day.
Is the wheel holding up?
Beautifully. Need more options for allowing/disallowing certain functions when the player is locked.
Is the software solid, or at least receiving updates?
Solid, yes, except for one major bug that causes the player to hang if you save a playlist when repeat is enabled. No updates have been announced publicly yet.
Did it really turn out to have the Karma/empeg functionality that we love?
For the most part, yes. (I own a recently deceased Karma. Never had the pleasure of meeting an empeg.) Sadly, it is missing the ability to manage playlists independent of the Now Playling list.
How's the price and availability?
Fairly priced. Only two stores carry it in the US: J&R and B&H, both in NYC, which works out fine for me.
All in all, I rank Karma a little higher than Vibez, and Vibez higher than everything else.
Posted by: Robotic
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 29/10/2008 16:03
Very cheap, very bad Vibez knock-off:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10661
It's really sad that the Vibez is so rare. It's such a cool piece.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10661
It's really sad that the Vibez is so rare. It's such a cool piece.
Posted by: rubennyc
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 31/10/2008 00:39
Originally Posted By: Robotic
Very cheap, very bad Vibez knock-off:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10661
It's really sad that the Vibez is so rare. It's such a cool piece.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10661
It's really sad that the Vibez is so rare. It's such a cool piece.
16 GB flash version of the real deal due out soon: http://www.amazon.com/TrekStor-vibez-Por...0745&sr=8-1
Posted by: Robotic
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 03/11/2008 23:34
I see that Trekstor lists 8GB, 16GB, and 32GB on their site.
It's exciting to see the 16GB at Amazon. Any clue if
1. the 32 will not be far behind?
2. the 32 is flash-based?
It's exciting to see the 16GB at Amazon. Any clue if
1. the 32 will not be far behind?
2. the 32 is flash-based?
Posted by: rubennyc
Re: Trekstor Vibez - 04/11/2008 09:35
Originally Posted By: Robotic
I see that Trekstor lists 8GB, 16GB, and 32GB on their site.
It's exciting to see the 16GB at Amazon. Any clue if
1. the 32 will not be far behind?
2. the 32 is flash-based?
It's exciting to see the 16GB at Amazon. Any clue if
1. the 32 will not be far behind?
2. the 32 is flash-based?
All are flash-based. No release dates have been given on the 32 GB. And given TrekStor's track record on releases, the 32 could be a long way away.
