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#261309 - 08/08/2005 14:40 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: andym]
Roger Moderator Offline
carpal tunnel


Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 4572
Loc: London, UK
Quote:
It's a shame there isn't a hijack option to start the player with -i in case it happens again.


I nearly gave myself a heart-attack the other day: I upgraded to 3a11, and it wouldn't start, so (while at home), I ran it with -i.

Got in the car -- sounded a bit flat. I checked the EQ. Gah! It's totally flat. Where's the EQ I spent 3 hours setting up with John and John?!

Ah -- "player -i" doesn't blank the EQ -- it just resets back to EQ #1. My custom EQ is on #2.

Panic over.

(Although I think I'll write down the numbers somewhere, just in case)

-- roger

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#261310 - 08/08/2005 14:44 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: dbrashear]
Roger Moderator Offline
carpal tunnel


Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 4572
Loc: London, UK
Quote:
Hm. You do remind me of 2 things:


The player doesn't always remember whether shuffle was on or off.

The way I most commonly use my player is to have shuffle turned on most of the time. When I come across a track from an album I like, I turn shuffle off, listen to a couple more tracks, and then turn it back on again.

However, the behaviour I saw this morning was that my running order was shuffled, but the player didn't think it was. So (thinking shuffle was on), I toggled it, which turned it on, rather than the expected off.

All of which meant that I lost track of the album I was trying to listen to more of...

-- roger

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#261311 - 08/08/2005 18:14 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: Roger]
rob Moderator Offline
carpal tunnel


Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5285
Loc: Cambridge UK
I've had a problem with all v3-alphas with them forgetting settings across power cycles. Sometimes shuffle, sometimes repeat, sometimes the current running order. I've assumed this was a v3 glitch but I guess my player may have an individual problem with its powerfail interrupt.

Rob

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#261312 - 08/08/2005 18:37 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: Roger]
drakino Administrator Offline
carpal tunnel


Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 4844
Quote:
The player doesn't always remember whether shuffle was on or off.


This is actually a problem I see on 2.0 as well, with about 5,000 tracks in queue. I'm still not sure exactly when it happens, but I do make use of the bookmark feature to usually save the 5,000 song order to book mark 1 when listening to an audio book or something seperate from that mass.

Tom

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#261313 - 10/08/2005 09:28 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
JeffreyB Offline
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Registered: 12/05/2002
Posts: 84
Loc: Cincinnati, OH
I've rebuilt my hds and am starting from scratch with my spare empeg running the new alpha 11. I've tried adding music 4 times now and after about 85-100 songs Emplode bombs with errors saying the connection was forcably closed by the remote host. On the front of the Empeg it has an error saying something about the hds timing out. I'm assuming Hijack is displaying the error. I got the same error while trying to delete the music that was on the Player. I'm running Emplode 2.0 as I read somewhere on here that v2.1 was too buggy. Is this a bug, or some setting that is incorrect? The hds check out fine and the stress test during the build was OK. I'm going to try going back to 2.0 release version and loading up the music with that.

JeffreyB


Edited by JeffreyB (10/08/2005 09:58)

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#261314 - 10/08/2005 10:49 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: JeffreyB]
JeffreyB Offline
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Registered: 12/05/2002
Posts: 84
Loc: Cincinnati, OH
OK,

This is not a bug in alpha 11. It does it on release 2.0 as well. I get alternating "hda: disk error: status timeout" and "hdb: disk error: status timeout" errors.

The log shows:

ide0: reset timed-out, status=0x80
hda: status timeout: status=0x80
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:04 (hda), sector 147686
hda: drive not ready for command
hdb: status timeout: status=0x80
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:44 (hdb), sector 147694
hdb: drive not ready for command
hda: status timeout: status=0x80
hda: drive not ready for command
ide0: reset timed-out, status=0x80
hdb: status timeout: status=0x80
hdb: drive not ready for command
ide0: reset timed-out, status=0x80
hda: status timeout: status=0x80
hda: drive not ready for command

I'm assuming it's a HD or drive cable issue. Thing is, the player was working fine until I rebuilt the drives. I have a new extended HD cable and the IDE header was reflowed 2 years ago. Also the stress test during the rebuild was OK...

JeffreyB


Edited by JeffreyB (10/08/2005 10:50)

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#261315 - 10/08/2005 12:02 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: JeffreyB]
frog51 Offline
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Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 1739
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
For info: the only times I have seen this message have both been sorted by ensuring good IDE cable connection (by pressing it down hard again

One was not long after an upgrade, but the other appeared to be unconnected to anything, so my assumption is general day to day bumping wiggled the connector slightly loose.

Rory
MkIIa, blue lit buttons, memory upgrade, 250Gb in Mark Lord dock
MkII, 120Gb in home made dock - I'll sort out reinstalling them in cars some day

What am I up to?

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#261316 - 11/08/2005 00:57 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: frog51]
JeffreyB Offline
stranger


Registered: 12/05/2002
Posts: 84
Loc: Cincinnati, OH
I reseated the IDE cable. All is fine now. I wonder why the stress test didn't show any problems...

Thanks!

JeffreyB


Edited by JeffreyB (11/08/2005 00:58)

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#261317 - 11/08/2005 21:54 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: mlord]
jbradshw Offline
journeyman


Registered: 20/02/2002
Posts: 72
Loc: Atlanta, GA
Someone asked this earlier, but I didn't really see a response. How do I use Mark's ethernet upgrader from Windows?

One of the last MK2's from SonicBlue... Blue/60gig S/N: 030103111

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#261318 - 11/08/2005 22:00 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: jbradshw]
oliver Offline
addict


Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 680
Check out this post, it's on page #2.

Oliver mk1 30gb: 129 | mk2a 30gb: 040104126

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#261319 - 11/08/2005 22:02 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: oliver]
jbradshw Offline
journeyman


Registered: 20/02/2002
Posts: 72
Loc: Atlanta, GA
Ahh ok.. I read that but when I started seeing chmod and bash, I figured that was a linux tool. I'll give it a try.

One of the last MK2's from SonicBlue... Blue/60gig S/N: 030103111

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#261320 - 11/08/2005 22:09 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: jbradshw]
oliver Offline
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 680
they are linux tools, but the cygwin distro creates a linux shell inside of windows even with it's own command line interface window.

Oliver mk1 30gb: 129 | mk2a 30gb: 040104126

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#261321 - 11/08/2005 22:33 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: oliver]
jbradshw Offline
journeyman


Registered: 20/02/2002
Posts: 72
Loc: Atlanta, GA
OK.. well I got the distro and installed everything. I downloaded the upgrader from Mark's site, but I can't find an upgrader-cygwin.exe anywhere. The file on Mark's site is upgrader.tar and when I open that, all I see is 'upgrader'. What do i do at that point?

One of the last MK2's from SonicBlue... Blue/60gig S/N: 030103111

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#261322 - 11/08/2005 23:29 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: oliver]
Foz Offline
member


Registered: 24/10/2000
Posts: 106
Loc: San Jose, CA
Quote:
the cygwin distro creates a linux shell inside of windows


\begin{nitpick}

ok, it doesn't really create a linux shell. Cygwin is a bunch of unix tools ported to windows... many of which also happen to exist happily (and natively) under linux, solaris, HP/UX, AIX, BSD, etc.

\end{nitpick}

-- Gary F.

Eeyore, Original Owner -- Mk II 80 Gb, Blue S/N #090000803 Tigger, 2nd Owner -- Mk IIa, 80 Gb, Blue S/N #40103789

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#261323 - 11/08/2005 23:55 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: jbradshw]
oliver Offline
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 680
Quote:
I downloaded the upgrader from Mark's site, but I can't find an upgrader-cygwin.exe anywhere.
Opps, left out one major step. You'll want to download this file from this thread.

Oliver mk1 30gb: 129 | mk2a 30gb: 040104126

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#261324 - 12/08/2005 00:45 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: oliver]
jbradshw Offline
journeyman


Registered: 20/02/2002
Posts: 72
Loc: Atlanta, GA
Well I ran it once and it said BROKEN PIPE at the end - not sure if that means it was successful or not. I accidentally closed it, but i ran it again and here's the paste of the log:

Oh and I'm currently at a7 and the player is in standby when I ran this.

$ ./upgrader_0.8_cygwin.exe 192.168.1.28 car2-developer-v3.00-alpha11.upgrade

./upgrader_0.8_cygwin: Empeg/RioCar Ethernet Upgrade Tool, version 0.8, (c)2003
by Mark Lord
--> requires Hijack kernel on player
--> requires gunzip and ncftpput in $PATH

UPGRADE Requires upgrader version: 2
HWREV Supported hardware versions: 7,9
Placing player into Standy-By for the upgrade: ncftpput -E -c -Y "site button=t
op.L" "192.168.1.28" "/dev/null" </dev/null

INFO This release is suitable for Mark II empeg and Rio Car players (with r
otary control)
WHAT empegcar developer image
2005/07/25 18:54
RELEASE Rio Car player software - developer release v3.00-alpha11
VERSION Rio Car player software - developer release v3.00-alpha11
LOADER /proc/flash_0c000, size=452 bytes
--> pumping: ncftpput -E -c "192.168.1.28" "/proc/flash_0c000"
LOADER /proc/flash_0e000, size=1692 bytes
--> pumping: ncftpput -E -c "192.168.1.28" "/proc/flash_0e000"
KERNEL /proc/empeg_kernel, size=476784 bytes
--> SKIPPED
RAMDISK /proc/flash_b0000, size=327680 bytes
--> pumping: ncftpput -E -c "192.168.1.28" "/proc/flash_b0000"
Broken pipe

One of the last MK2's from SonicBlue... Blue/60gig S/N: 030103111

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#261325 - 12/08/2005 02:25 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: jbradshw]
mlord Offline
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 10005
Loc: Canada
failed. dunno why.
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#261326 - 14/08/2005 17:52 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
ithoughti Offline
old hand


Registered: 17/07/2001
Posts: 720
Loc: Boston, MA USA
I put 3.11 on the empeg today and the playlists were totally screwed up! Crazyness. There wasn't really any rhyme or reason to it either, it was like it was totally random and many songs/playlists weren't even there any more. I'm going back to 2.0 now to see if that fixes things.

Weird. Anyone else experience this issue?

--------- //matt

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#261327 - 14/08/2005 18:00 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: ithoughti]
tfabris Administrator Offline
carpal tunnel


Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 27652
Loc: Seattle, WA
Yes, with earlier alphas. Haven't tried 11 yet.

Took me a couple of synchs to get there... First load of the alpha worked fine, it was only after a couple of synchs that my playlists got scrambled.

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#261328 - 14/08/2005 18:18 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: ithoughti]
peter Moderator Offline
carpal tunnel


Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 3370
Loc: Cambridge, England
Quote:
I put 3.11 on the empeg today and the playlists were totally screwed up! Crazyness. There wasn't really any rhyme or reason to it either, it was like it was totally random and many songs/playlists weren't even there any more. I'm going back to 2.0 now to see if that fixes things.

Weird. Anyone else experience this issue?

Have you previously had other v3 alphas on there? If so, you might need to manually delete your database files (or, at the very least, "database3"). It turns out that the stuff for seamless upgrading from v2 to v3, only works the first time and not if you go back and forth.

Peter

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#261329 - 14/08/2005 18:56 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
ithoughti Offline
old hand


Registered: 17/07/2001
Posts: 720
Loc: Boston, MA USA
yes, I think I had v3 alpha3 on there long ago. I went back to 2.00 and all was back to normal. I'll try deleting the database files and see how that goes.

Actually, can I just synch in emplode and see if it fixes the problem? The playlists were all messed up in emplode too, so I was afraid that if I synched then they would be permanently messed up.

thanks!


Edited by ithoughti (14/08/2005 19:01)

--------- //matt

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#261330 - 14/08/2005 19:52 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: ithoughti]
ithoughti Offline
old hand


Registered: 17/07/2001
Posts: 720
Loc: Boston, MA USA
I deleted the database files, put on alpha11 and all is well.

Thanks for your help Peter!

--------- //matt

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#261331 - 22/08/2005 16:16 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
ninti Offline
old hand


Registered: 28/12/2001
Posts: 868
Loc: Los Angeles
Quote:
People experiencing crashes and glitches with alpha11 should probably try increasing their ReserveCache


Well, either because of the above suggestion or just through statistical anomalies, Alpha 11 has been doing much better lately. Only had one crash in the last couple of weeks (a segfault, first time I ever saw that message), and very few cases of odd behaviour besides long pauses when I switch from radio back to player mode, so all-in-all it's behaving itself nicely.

Ninti - MK IIa 60GB Smoke, 30GB, 10GB

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