#273221 - 01/01/2006 03:48
Slimserver Instructions
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ramiles
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Registered: 31/12/2005
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Would anyone please be able to share with me how I can use my Slimserver software with a Rio Receiver? Have read various posts on this board - several have posts about "directing" or "pointing" the Rio to the Slimserver (which I take to mean the port, \\PC:9000) but haven't been able to find out wether that is Rio server (T-Rio) or Rio receiver code. Appreciate any help.
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#273224 - 13/01/2006 17:43
Re: Slimserver Instructions
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damage
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Registered: 27/11/2002
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or you can just use medianet ( http://www.myhap.org.uk ) which can serve rios and slims.
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#273225 - 02/03/2006 16:49
Re: Slimserver Instructions
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Bane
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I noticed that Medianet transcodes flac before playback. Does it transcode flac to wav or mp3?
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#273226 - 06/03/2006 20:20
Re: Slimserver Instructions
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damage
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I noticed that Medianet transcodes flac before playback. Does it transcode flac to wav or mp3?
all non-native codecs are transcoded to mp3.
Edited by damage (06/03/2006 20:21)
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#273227 - 31/03/2006 00:28
Re: Slimserver Instructions
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Bane
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I noticed that Medianet transcodes flac before playback. Does it transcode flac to wav or mp3?
all non-native codecs are transcoded to mp3.
Any chance of ever getting native flac?
Thanks
Jamy
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#273228 - 31/03/2006 02:43
Re: Slimserver Instructions
[Re: Bane]
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damage
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I noticed that Medianet transcodes flac before playback. Does it transcode flac to wav or mp3?
all non-native codecs are transcoded to mp3.
Any chance of ever getting native flac?
Thanks
Jamy
doubt it. the devices would have to decode flac natively (ie in the actual hardware) and none of the supported devices do
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#273229 - 25/08/2006 09:12
Re: Slimserver Instructions
[Re: andy]
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julf
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Registered: 01/10/2001
Posts: 1047
Loc: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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What you really need of course is a plugin for SlimServer that pretends to be a Audio Receiver Manager server.
Or a Slim client on the Rios. The source for softsqueeze is available, but in java - has there been a discussion about the feasibility of java on the receiver?
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#273230 - 26/08/2006 09:55
Re: Slimserver Instructions
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peter
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has there been a discussion about the feasibility of java on the receiver?
In 4MB? I'd be pretty impressed.
Peter
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#273231 - 26/08/2006 11:08
Re: Slimserver Instructions
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Roger
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In 4MB? I'd be pretty impressed.
Well, you can get Java for Lego Mindstorms. That's only 32Kb.
I don't think there's much of an audio or networking stack in that, though 
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#273232 - 26/08/2006 11:18
Re: Slimserver Instructions
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julf
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Registered: 01/10/2001
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[Well, you can get Java for Lego Mindstorms. That's only 32Kb.
And the Dallas TINI can't have much more, being pretty much a 8051 - a decendant of the original 8080...
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#273233 - 29/09/2006 23:31
Re: Slimserver Instructions
[Re: ramiles]
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dionysus
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Registered: 16/06/1999
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Loc: San Francisco, CA
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OK - revisiting slimserver for rio threads..
Would I would LOVE to see - is this simple c program compiled for the rio receiver - possible? it's using madplay for the actual mp3 player, which should be already on the rio receiver on some of the firmware builds...
http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pdw/slimp3slave/
This has to be cakewalk for someone w/ development skills and a cross-build platform for the rio already in place!
My rio receiver's now can stream the mp3 stream out of slimserver, but the above client is much faster switching songs! (it takes ~5-10 seconds to swtich a song w/ the current method of just stremaing the music off the slimserver using the rioplay software)
-mark
Attachments
287993-slimp3slave-0.4.tar.gz (186 downloads)
Description:
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#273234 - 12/01/2007 18:34
Re: Slimserver Instructions
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Bane
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Registered: 23/06/2003
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I noticed that Medianet transcodes flac before playback. Does it transcode flac to wav or mp3?
all non-native codecs are transcoded to mp3.
Any chance of ever getting native flac?
Thanks
Jamy
doubt it. the devices would have to decode flac natively (ie in the actual hardware) and none of the supported devices do
TRio plays flac files. I'm no expert in development, but I would think that if TRio can do it, Medianet ought to be able to be made to also.
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#273235 - 12/09/2007 16:41
Re: Slimserver Instructions
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caederus
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Registered: 18/02/2000
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Loc: UK
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You might be interested in trying slimrio, which is a replacement player that speaks the SLIMP3 protocol.
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#273236 - 13/09/2007 04:16
Re: Slimserver Instructions
[Re: caederus]
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gerald_clark
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Registered: 08/10/2003
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Loc: IL, U.S.A.
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Very nice!
I think I may replace Ampache with this, if I can tune out the
infrequent audio glitches.
I really like the browse music folder option.
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#273238 - 14/09/2007 22:50
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[Re: caederus]
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Cris
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Registered: 06/02/2002
Posts: 1162
Loc: Leeds, UK
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OMG! Thank You!
Just what I have been looking for, I now have 4 more music players on my network
I am getting glitchy audio, I find it's ok if I use bitrate limiting to 160kbps. I wonder how many players I can do realtime re-sampling to at the same time ???
Cheers
Cris
PS - The solution I have is the original rio software is running on my windows box, while the slimserver runs on my clarkconnect box. Just in case anyone was wondering.
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#273239 - 14/09/2007 23:08
Re: Slimserver Instructions
[Re: Cris]
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gerald_clark
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Registered: 08/10/2003
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I went to the network settings in the slimserver control panel, and doubled the UDP packet size to 2800,
Then I set display scrolling to Scroll Once and Stop.
My glitches have disappeared!
I couldn't be happier.
I am an ex user of jreceiver and Ampache.
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#273243 - 16/09/2007 09:52
Re: Slimserver Instructions
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julf
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Registered: 01/10/2001
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Loc: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Hmmpf, neither doubling UDP packet size nor reducing max bitrate to 160 seems to help, still regular (every 5-10 seconds?) glitches... 
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#273244 - 16/09/2007 17:43
Re: Slimserver Instructions
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gerald_clark
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Registered: 08/10/2003
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When reducing the bitrate, the server must transcode the file.
It may not be able to keep ahead of the receiver.
If the server is busy or under powered, reducing the bitrate may cause the glitches.
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#273246 - 16/09/2007 20:05
Re: Slimserver Instructions
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Cris
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Registered: 06/02/2002
Posts: 1162
Loc: Leeds, UK
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Good point, but had the glitches at full rate too.
Same here too!
It's better at lower bit rates, I get glitches towards the end of tracks maybe every 20 seconds or so.
Cheers
Cris.
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#273247 - 16/09/2007 21:48
Re: Slimserver Instructions
[Re: Cris]
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gerald_clark
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Registered: 08/10/2003
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All my tracks are mp3 at 64K fixed or 128 variable.
I have nothing encoded at a higher rate to test.
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#273248 - 13/10/2007 14:21
Re: Slimserver Instructions
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YNaught
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Registered: 28/01/2006
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Good point, but had the glitches at full rate too.
When I first tried the bitrate reduction trick, it did not work... Eventually I noticed the text above the selectbox for bitrate, saying that it could not find my lame install. After installing lame, it worked much better.
I've also noticed some glitches when it tries to scroll long filenames, am currently fooling with those settings.
I can also cause glitches by scrolling too quickly through my "artist" list (for instance). I assume it's swamping the Ethernet pipe, or the server.
An interesting point is that if you ask the RIO, it's hardy working:
nc 10.0.0.101 5000
uptime
12:01pm up 3 days, 12:01, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
...Makes me think the limitation is the poor old 10Mb ethernet connection..?
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#273249 - 13/10/2007 17:19
Re: Slimserver Instructions
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Cris
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Registered: 06/02/2002
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Loc: Leeds, UK
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...Makes me think the limitation is the poor old 10Mb ethernet connection..?
I don't think so, I have 100Mb here with 1Gb to the server and I still get the odd glitch still. I assume the Rio is 10Mb, but streaming a 160kbps mp3 should be easy over that ???
I get the feeling the problem is at the Rio end, I can do operations on the server without it effecting playback on either the Rio or my squeezebox.
But still a much better solution for me than the original software.
Cheers
Cris.
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#273250 - 14/10/2007 07:51
Re: Slimserver Instructions
[Re: YNaught]
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julf
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Registered: 01/10/2001
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Loc: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Makes me think the limitation is the poor old 10Mb ethernet connection..?
Probably not, as the Receiver works without glitches with other software (and same server).
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