#292690 - 25/01/2007 02:05
Display Extender Interest
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Mach
old hand
Registered: 15/07/2002
Posts: 826
Loc: Texas, USA
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Thanks to MarkM, Stu, and Patrick, I'm hoping to have a few of these board made. Would anyone else be interested? I'm guessing they'll be around $300-$400 for the set of 2 boards (sender and receiver) but we'll know more once Stu has a chance to conduct some prototyping magic.
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#292692 - 25/01/2007 04:56
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: caseyse]
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MarkM
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Registered: 11/12/2000
Posts: 105
Loc: Seattle, WA USA
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I have tested these to 100 feet. It's the installation of feeding cable under carpeting that's time consuming.
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#292693 - 25/01/2007 06:02
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: Mach]
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juenk
journeyman
Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 73
Loc: Utrecht, The Netherlands
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Sound interesting (no promise yet!) for me as well. How do you control the player (e.g. when trunk mounted)? I presume the board only gives a remote display, not remote 'control'?
Jelle
nb: I do have a now disused original rio tuner, could that be useful for this?
Empeg M2 Blue # 010101908 80Gb
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#292694 - 25/01/2007 06:10
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: juenk]
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MarkM
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Registered: 11/12/2000
Posts: 105
Loc: Seattle, WA USA
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One extender board is mounted to the empeg, the other board is mounted to the display. All front panel controls work. This allows for mounting the display in tighter spaces - dash, center console, headliner, etc.
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#292695 - 25/01/2007 07:17
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: juenk]
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tfabris
carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 27576
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I presume the board only gives a remote display, not remote 'control'?
Actually, a better name for it would be "Front panel extender", it means the empeg's "body" gets trunk mounted, and the entire front panel "face" (complete with buttons, knob, and IR transceiver) is at the end of a long ribbon cable.
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#292696 - 25/01/2007 07:22
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: tfabris]
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juenk
journeyman
Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 73
Loc: Utrecht, The Netherlands
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Very nice, is the 'connector' at the display side of the ribbon strong enough to be used as 'removable' front plate (like most aftemarket radios)?
Jelle
Empeg M2 Blue # 010101908 80Gb
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#292697 - 25/01/2007 07:48
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: juenk]
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MarkM
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Registered: 11/12/2000
Posts: 105
Loc: Seattle, WA USA
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Probably, but the connector type used isn't very handy for quick disconnects. I'd also be a little concerned with static discharge. I have killed a few of these board sets over the years, but I can't recall which components have failed.
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#292698 - 27/01/2007 15:54
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: Mach]
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FireFox31
pooh-bah
Registered: 20/09/2002
Posts: 2356
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Wow, that's quite a professional product. How'd I miss this project during development?
Detachable like a face plate would be amazing for stealth installs.
Does this supply the necessary power to allow lit buttons to light up?
Good work!!
- FireFox31 110gig MKIIa (30+80), Eutronix lights, 32 meg stacked RAM, Filener orange gel lens, Greenlights Lit Buttons green set
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#292700 - 27/01/2007 21:44
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: FireFox31]
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MarkM
stranger
Registered: 11/12/2000
Posts: 105
Loc: Seattle, WA USA
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This design has been kept private for several years. I just got permission to share it with the public.
BTW - I haven't used an extender set with button lights.
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#292701 - 01/02/2007 03:29
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: Mach]
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FireFox31
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Registered: 20/09/2002
Posts: 2356
Loc: East Coast, USA
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I'm curious about the use of the extender. With the empeg metalwork in the trunk, you still have a DIN sized faceplate with a moderate thickness to put somewhere. That would require a big external housing to sit on the dash, or a DIN slot to sit in the dash. I know of one example where the shorter depth would help, the Volvo S40/V50 thin dash panel. But is it really that common?
- FireFox31 110gig MKIIa (30+80), Eutronix lights, 32 meg stacked RAM, Filener orange gel lens, Greenlights Lit Buttons green set
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#292702 - 01/02/2007 05:03
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: FireFox31]
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MarkM
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Registered: 11/12/2000
Posts: 105
Loc: Seattle, WA USA
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One common application was to make a pod that molded into the dash. We'd remove the air vent plastics and create a hollow plug on the bottom of the pod. This was a friction fit with the cable running under the dash, though the air vent and into the nice looking pod. The pod of course was covered in vinyl or leather to match the dash. When the car is sold, there's not much to do, just pull some cable out and replace the factory plastics.
There were other applications where we mounted the display in a vinyl box. Some cars had depth issues. I could see this design used in classic cars, exotics, or customs. You could put it in a small glove compartment or center console.
If the empeg fits in the dash, by all mean do that! Our installations almost always retained the factory system and hacked the empeg audio into the main system with a audio switch. The main goal was to provide access and visibility to the display without hacking into an expensive vehicle's dash or console.
Hope this helps.
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#292704 - 01/02/2007 17:45
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: JBjorgen]
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tfabris
carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 27576
Loc: Seattle, WA
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In a sense, it turns the empeg into something about the size of an ipod or a satellite radio receiver. There are plenty of interesting car mounting options for that sort of thing. People velcro them to the dash, hang them from vents, stick them in cup holders, that sort of thing.
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#292706 - 01/02/2007 21:49
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: Mach]
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BAKup
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Registered: 11/11/2001
Posts: 517
Loc: Houston, TX
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Or you could install in a sun visor or center console (About half way down the page)
http://www.installer.com/pics/instpics.html
These are the people I used to have my Empeg installed in my car(No, that pic of the empeg isn't my car). They managed to shoehorn in some 6" speakers in the front doors of my little Aveo. I've been meaning to see if somehow they can put a sub in the back without taking up too much space.
--Ben
78GB MkIIa, Dead tuner.
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#292707 - 02/02/2007 05:48
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: Mach]
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MarkM
stranger
Registered: 11/12/2000
Posts: 105
Loc: Seattle, WA USA
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A sun visor install would be a little rough for the display extender. It's a little thick and heavy, unless you want to drive with the visor down all of the time.  Plus there's that ribbon cable to hide. I must admit that a different cable connector on the display side could make the package smaller.
I like the idea of stashing it in the sunglasses holder located in the headliner console of some cars.
It kind of goes without saying, but I forgot to mention in an earlier post about dash mounting - please avoid any airbag locations. It would be dangerous to have a display shooting through the inside of your car.
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#292712 - 03/02/2007 02:37
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: maczrool]
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MarkM
stranger
Registered: 11/12/2000
Posts: 105
Loc: Seattle, WA USA
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Stu,
I'll try to get an answer to the resister question. We still want a couple of boards for spares.
Mark
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#292714 - 03/02/2007 06:13
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: Mach]
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MarkM
stranger
Registered: 11/12/2000
Posts: 105
Loc: Seattle, WA USA
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Looks like there is a fair amount of interest here, so 2 sets is probably fine to cover us for spares. After Stu builds a few, we could probably have him repair existing boards if we get into a pinch.
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#292716 - 03/02/2007 14:45
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: Mach]
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jarob10
enthusiast
Registered: 07/01/2002
Posts: 265
Loc: Stockport, UK
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I am definitaly interested in one set. It's been a long time since I spent any £ on the empeg.
A coward you are, an expert on bulls you are not.
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#292718 - 03/02/2007 19:30
Re: Display Extender Interest
[Re: mlord]
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MarkM
stranger
Registered: 11/12/2000
Posts: 105
Loc: Seattle, WA USA
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Looks like the 10 are spoken for.
Patrick might have a few extender circuit boards available. By a few, probably two sets if you're lucky. If you're already a friend of his, he might build a set if you ask nicely and pay him for his time. If I get in touch with Patrick, I'll let him know that it's okay to use the remaining boards.
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