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#309762 - 03/05/2008 20:37 FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons
emax Offline
new poster


Registered: 09/05/2005
Posts: 13
Hi folks, I'm selling my aluminium NewFace fascia. It has a light scratch which I've highlighted in some of the photos.

See here for more details:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130219862436

Thanks.

Mk2a

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#309774 - 04/05/2008 02:53 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: emax]
Attack Offline
addict


Registered: 01/03/2002
Posts: 481
Loc: Florida
I really want this. Will you ship to the US?
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#309780 - 04/05/2008 06:36 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: Attack]
emax Offline
new poster


Registered: 09/05/2005
Posts: 13
Hi there,

I've just answered a similar question on the auction. I will ship to the US but need to get a quote for the postage first.

I'll also have to adjust the auction settings to allow international bidding.

Keep an eye on the aurction and I should get these issues dealt with in the next few days.

Regards,

Euan.

Mk2a

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#309781 - 04/05/2008 06:52 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: emax]
emax Offline
new poster


Registered: 09/05/2005
Posts: 13
Ok, you should now be able to bid from abroad. Let me know if this is not the case.

Regards,

Euan.

Mk2a

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#309792 - 04/05/2008 13:55 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: emax]
mlord Offline
carpal tunnel


Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 9841
Loc: Canada
There.. I've put a nice, beefy bid onto it to get things going.
Here's hoping you get good value from the auction!

Cheers

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#310122 - 13/05/2008 20:42 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: mlord]
zoom Offline
new poster


Registered: 07/08/2005
Posts: 20
wow! nice winning bid!

Edited by zoom (13/05/2008 20:42)

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#310123 - 13/05/2008 20:47 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: zoom]
Attack Offline
addict


Registered: 01/03/2002
Posts: 481
Loc: Florida
Yes, I will soon have a nice replacement NewFace. \:\)
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#310125 - 13/05/2008 21:26 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: Attack]
Charles Beer Offline
new poster


Registered: 05/11/2007
Posts: 37
you beat me out at the last 5secs!!

Does anyone have one they would part with? I would pay the same price.

I would even pay a borrowing fee to borrow someones NewFace for reproduction. I happen to work at an Aluminum manufacturer and could easily get this done.

If nobody will sell or let me borrow one, then I guess its to the drawing board. That just takes alot more time and effort and work is busy.

If anyone can help let me know. I've been wanting to get the ball rolling on this for awhile.

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#310127 - 13/05/2008 22:14 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: Charles Beer]
Boelle Offline
enthusiast


Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 260
Loc: Denmark, Odense
i was going to bid on this also but did not since it was only a facia.. if it where a facia AND handle it would be someting else

the "monkey" who learned to check a harddrive

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#310136 - 14/05/2008 00:14 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: Charles Beer]
Attack Offline
addict


Registered: 01/03/2002
Posts: 481
Loc: Florida
 Originally Posted By: Charles Beer
you beat me out at the last 5secs!!

Does anyone have one they would part with? I would pay the same price.

I would even pay a borrowing fee to borrow someones NewFace for reproduction. I happen to work at an Aluminum manufacturer and could easily get this done.

If nobody will sell or let me borrow one, then I guess its to the drawing board. That just takes alot more time and effort and work is busy.

If anyone can help let me know. I've been wanting to get the ball rolling on this for awhile.




Where are you located? I would be willing to load mine for a small discount on a few more new ones. Well once I get it \:\)

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#310140 - 14/05/2008 02:15 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: Charles Beer]
Glen_L Offline
member


Registered: 24/02/2003
Posts: 100
Loc: Elk Grove, CA
I really hope you can source one and break the curse. I've been waiting ~5 years to get one of these, shortly after 303 stopped making them. As you're probably aware a few have taken up the torch to get some manufactured but haven't produced anything beyond the prototype stage.

Congrats on the win, Attack! I gave up a bit over the $200 USD level.

No longer a stranger, finally a full-fledged member! \:D

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#310155 - 14/05/2008 10:47 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: Glen_L]
emax Offline
new poster


Registered: 09/05/2005
Posts: 13
When I bought my Empeg, it came with two of these NewFace fascias, the recently-auctioned aluminium one and a black one.

I have the original fascia as well and will likely put the black one up on eBay shortly once I get the chance to photograph it.

I'll keep you guys posted!

Mk2a

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#310161 - 14/05/2008 14:09 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: Attack]
Charles Beer Offline
new poster


Registered: 05/11/2007
Posts: 37
 Originally Posted By: Attack
 Originally Posted By: Charles Beer
you beat me out at the last 5secs!!

Does anyone have one they would part with? I would pay the same price.

I would even pay a borrowing fee to borrow someones NewFace for reproduction. I happen to work at an Aluminum manufacturer and could easily get this done.

If nobody will sell or let me borrow one, then I guess its to the drawing board. That just takes alot more time and effort and work is busy.

If anyone can help let me know. I've been wanting to get the ball rolling on this for awhile.




Where are you located? I would be willing to load mine for a small discount on a few more new ones. Well once I get it \:\)


Sent you a PM

Thanks!

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#310216 - 16/05/2008 00:27 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: emax]
tictac Offline
new poster


Registered: 31/05/2007
Posts: 2
Please let me posted and PM me if you put one on ebay I've been waiting for one of these for years as well
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#310614 - 29/05/2008 15:27 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: tictac]
Boelle Offline
enthusiast


Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 260
Loc: Denmark, Odense
has any got any luck with reproduction?

the "monkey" who learned to check a harddrive

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#310659 - 29/05/2008 20:39 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: Boelle]
webroach Offline
old hand


Registered: 23/07/2003
Posts: 869
Loc: Colorado
 Originally Posted By: Boelle
has any got any luck with reproduction?


Quite a ways back, I was very close to putting out a new aluminum fascia which would take the original buttons (and Greenlight's buttons, of course), but after I had put nearly two thousand dollars into the project, producing prototypes and trying different approaches such as laser and water cutting, someone else came up saying they were gonna produce some too. I decided it wasn't worth the expense to continue working on the project, seeing as the potential market wouldn't (in my opinion) support multiple manufacturers, so I scrapped it. I can only speak for myself, but I think it'll be hard to get anyone to produce them again unless there's some sort of guarantee that they won't have to spend thousands of dollars to, in the end, be just one of the people trying to market to a very small audience.

Dave

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#310660 - 29/05/2008 20:58 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: webroach]
wfaulk Administrator Offline
carpal tunnel


Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 13702
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Someone in the Bay Area should get a membership to TechShop and crank some out.

They have a CNC machine, powder-coating machine, anodizing machine, etc.

The one near me is not open yet.

Bitt Faulk

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#310684 - 30/05/2008 13:07 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: wfaulk]
Boelle Offline
enthusiast


Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 260
Loc: Denmark, Odense
damn...

the problem is then to feed the CNC with info on how to cut/drill..

maybe it should even be possible to make an excat copy of the org. mk2a facia + handle ?

the "monkey" who learned to check a harddrive

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#310685 - 30/05/2008 13:08 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: Boelle]
Boelle Offline
enthusiast


Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 260
Loc: Denmark, Odense
btw... never listen to people saying that they wan't to produce it too, not before they can put one in our hands

the "monkey" who learned to check a harddrive

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#310704 - 30/05/2008 17:09 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: Boelle]
webroach Offline
old hand


Registered: 23/07/2003
Posts: 869
Loc: Colorado
 Originally Posted By: Boelle
btw... never listen to people saying that they wan't to produce it too, not before they can put one in our hands


I can understand that, Boelle, but you still have to consider, the production of something like the aluminum fascia for someone like me (i.e., I don't have all the equipment, etc.) is a pretty big investment of time and, more importantly, money. I'm not wealthy by any stretch of the imagination. My partner (on the project) and I discussed continuing the project when the other person's plans were announced, ad we decided that we couldn't risk spending any more money on it in light of the risk of only selling a few.

Who knows, maybe someday.

Dave

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#310735 - 31/05/2008 01:18 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: webroach]
FireFox31 Offline
pooh-bah


Registered: 20/09/2002
Posts: 2356
Loc: East Coast, USA
But the other person's plans fizzled. Could yours be brought back to life? Could your progress be sold to someone else to continue it?

Hm, I guess there's kind of a curse on the NewFace. 303 made it than vanished. speedy bought the design and was going to make it, than vanished. webroach, don't vanish on us!!

I'm always so tempted to try another one of these money-hole projects. But if I do another one, it will be replacement stock handles. Not glamorous, but necessary.

-
FireFox31
110gig MKIIa (30+80), Eutronix lights, 32 meg stacked RAM, Filener orange gel lens, Greenlights Lit Buttons green set

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#310745 - 31/05/2008 11:23 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: FireFox31]
Boelle Offline
enthusiast


Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 260
Loc: Denmark, Odense
well, since i got my empeg i have always wondered who had the rights to put them back in production?

is there is not a market for the empeg anymore?

well this was just another brain fart from me

the "monkey" who learned to check a harddrive

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#310748 - 31/05/2008 12:59 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: Boelle]
mlord Offline
carpal tunnel


Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 9841
Loc: Canada
 Originally Posted By: Boelle
Is there is not a market for the empeg anymore?


Too small of a market -- many (most?) new cars have dashboards that make it really difficult to replace the factory head units.

People can (and do) still manage it just fine, but it's too much fuss for most, especially when one can just plug their iPod into a supplied socket on the factory stereo.

Cheers

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#310750 - 31/05/2008 13:05 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: mlord]
Boelle Offline
enthusiast


Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 260
Loc: Denmark, Odense
but who has the rights to produce the unit? and is there a time limit after (if the unit is not put in production) which they loose these rights?

i guess that most of the pcb layouts etc. is still around so that small scale production could be done...of course some parts are not around any more...

the "monkey" who learned to check a harddrive

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#310757 - 31/05/2008 13:42 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: Boelle]
mlord Offline
carpal tunnel


Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 9841
Loc: Canada
There's enough of them for sale at any point in time, that I really doubt it would be worthwhile for anyone to build new ones.

We just keep trading the existing 4000 (?) units amongst ourselves over time, like a game of musical chairs. Whoever has the most at the end, wins. \:\/

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#310759 - 31/05/2008 14:10 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: mlord]
Boelle Offline
enthusiast


Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 260
Loc: Denmark, Odense
well just for the fun, does any have the pcb layout and parts list for the mk2a?

the "monkey" who learned to check a harddrive

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#310789 - 31/05/2008 20:09 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: Boelle]
JBjorgen Offline
pooh-bah


Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 2485
Loc: Chandler, AZ
I'm guessing that Patrick probably still has pcb layout and parts list, but couldn't release them without permission from Sigmatel who, as far as I know, owns the intellectual rights to them.

Also, I'm certain that if another run were going to be made, they'd want to address some of the shortcomings, like 100mb or gigabit ethernet, USB 2.0 master, sata hard drives, more memory and faster processor, video output, etc..

You can see where it would quickly get prohibitively expensive. I'd be much more interested in Sigmatel open sourcing the player software so it could be ported to work on standard pc hardware.


Edited by JBjorgen (31/05/2008 20:11)

~ John

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#310791 - 31/05/2008 20:45 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: JBjorgen]
tman Offline
carpal tunnel


Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 4312
Loc: UK
The licensing for the software is complicated. From what I can gather, the IP has been split up and its all kinda hazy about where and who exactly owns what. Basically, not going to happen anytime soon. The code is still used as well I believe.

- Trevor

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#310795 - 01/06/2008 00:07 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: tman]
Boelle Offline
enthusiast


Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 260
Loc: Denmark, Odense
damn, could be fun to try what the price for the pcb with parts would be today

i think the only way to do another run, and to keep it alive would be to make both the hardware and software "opensource" so that every one could join development.. just another crazy idea

the "monkey" who learned to check a harddrive

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#310796 - 01/06/2008 00:18 Re: FS: NewFace Brushed Aluminium Fascia with clear buttons [Re: Boelle]
tman Offline
carpal tunnel


Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 4312
Loc: UK
A lot of the parts used were hard to find even when the empeg was in full production. After this many years it'll be nearly impossible to find large quantities of them.

The empeg software going open source just isn't going to ever happen.

- Trevor

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