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#119207 - 04/10/2002 00:58 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: muzza]
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#119208 - 04/10/2002 07:43 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: svferris]
Daria
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Well, the explanation is I'm involved in development of a system which uses a feature of the Linux kernel which RedHat deliberately patched away in RedHat 8. This patch, which was written by a coworker of mine, ignores the fact that the symbol for the variable isn't exported, finds it anyway, and essentially patches it in. It is, at many levels, wrong.

That said, I'm bitter enough about the whole thing that I ended up making that offer. Or perhaps promise, depending on how you look at it.

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#119209 - 04/10/2002 07:45 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: drakino]
mlord
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>Mark was the test to see what everyones reaction was.

Thankfully, nobody noticed or commented on it. And now that the proletarian masses are also green with envy, I feel safe again!

Cheers

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#119210 - 04/10/2002 09:00 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: drakino]
tms13
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Red is the Admin/Moderator color now


So how do we tell them apart from mortals (who also appear red)?

[Edit - I've only just enabled author colours in my browser (for unrelated purposes) and came back here with colours on. Maybe I did something wrong?]
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#119211 - 04/10/2002 09:25 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: drakino]
rob
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Rob, well, Up to him about red or blue, since he falls under two categories.

I'd like a blue "R" and "b" and a red "o".

Rob

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#119212 - 04/10/2002 09:50 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: rob]
wfaulk
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Man, the convergence on this monitor sucks! That looks more like:
 o

R b
to me.
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#119213 - 04/10/2002 09:58 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: wfaulk]
Roger
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Yeah, I had exactly the same problem. Unfortunately, lining the red and blue up made all my white text go funny.

Since I don't want my eyesight to go odd (well, not until after the pub this evening), I've put it back.
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#119214 - 04/10/2002 14:19 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: tms13]
drakino
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So how do we tell them apart from mortals (who also appear red)?

[Edit - I've only just enabled author colours in my browser (for unrelated purposes) and came back here with colours on. Maybe I did something wrong?]


Hmm, not sure what you mean by this. Anyone who is red has always been an admin in the past. And i'm not aware of any of the BBS skins changing the normal user to red.

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#119215 - 05/10/2002 00:48 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: Daria]
svferris
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Registered: 06/11/2001
Posts: 700
Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
Ok, that makes sense. I was thinking it was some joke that had been encoded to base 64, and I wasn't about to spend the time unencoding it.

Nothing like patching patches.

Note: my attachment is just my icon. Figured I'd just get it into the empeg system like everybody else.


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#119216 - 05/10/2002 02:07 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: svferris]
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My banned name would be green EDIT: nevermind, no it wouldn't.

can you make someone multicolored?


Edited by d33zY (05/10/2002 02:27)

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#119217 - 05/10/2002 09:19 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: drakino]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
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How about in addition to colours, we get a random name appearing instead of our own? Now that would truly be something confusing.

Though I still think invisible would be the coolest of all.

Bruno
Damn, I have to get some real work done sooner or later...
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#119218 - 05/10/2002 15:32 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: hybrid8]
Ezekiel
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You mean you didn't see my invisible post just before yours? JEEZ.

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#119219 - 09/10/2002 04:15 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: drakino]
tms13
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In reply to:

i'm not aware of any of the BBS skins changing the normal user to red.


Normal users have always been red (see below) - what colour did you expect?



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#119220 - 09/10/2002 05:16 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: tms13]
Roger
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Yellow:

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Edited by Roger (09/10/2002 05:16)
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#119221 - 09/10/2002 05:44 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: wfaulk]
Dignan
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Hmm, very interesting. I'm so used to important people being special colors. At least now everyone but me falls under that category

Drakino, you may have to make the cutoff higher actually. I mean, there's a dozen people within 200 posts of it. Just think, if these are the people who post most often, do we want all the names turning green?


ps-come on people, lets not be posting about our post counts or color status. we don't want to incur the wrath of the message board gods. I'd suggest mentioning it at the end of a normal post if you must.
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#119222 - 09/10/2002 07:07 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: Roger]
Daria
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This is what I see, but I know I've seen it the other way, maybe when I had stylesheets disabled.

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#119223 - 09/10/2002 07:57 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: tms13]
drakino
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Posts: 7868
Normal users have always been red (see below) - what colour did you expect?

As Roger shows below, yellow, or a darker blue on some skins. What browser are you using? The screenshot below is what I see when using your set skin of "desert"



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#119224 - 09/10/2002 09:58 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: drakino]
tms13
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Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
I'm using Mozilla 1.0.0.

I think the problem is that you don't suggest a colour at all for mortals, and the names are links - meaning that we get our normal link colour. In my case, red.

Whilst looking for this, I was reading the stylesheet (http://empeg.comms.net/stylesheets/stylesheet2.css), and I noticed that a lot of elements specify color but not background-color, or vice-versa. This is a Bad Thing to do, as it means that you can end up with a foreground colour from the site's stylesheet and a background from the user's stylesheet, for example - and I really dislike black-on-black . You wouldn't see this yourself with the most common user stylesheet (or browser's built-in fallback stylesheet) where most elements are specified with { color: inherit; background: transparent; }.
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#119225 - 09/10/2002 10:18 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: tms13]
drakino
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I think the biggest problem is that UBBThreads has turned to crap as of late. If I get some spare time, I'll try to go through the stylesheets and clean up the mess. It looks like 5.5 is here to stay for the BBS for a long time out, so I might as well fix what I can.

Is there any BBS software out there that dosen't suck at some level? I'm begining to think no.

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#119226 - 09/10/2002 10:23 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: drakino]
tfabris
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From what I've seen, this software sucks the least.
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#119227 - 09/10/2002 10:27 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: tfabris]
robricc
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Agreed.

There are too many worthless features in other packages that just make boards load slow and look cluttered.
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#119228 - 09/10/2002 10:56 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: robricc]
Dignan
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All I know is that I like my phpBB. It has about triple the amount of user features that this one does. But I'm not sure how well it would work with such a large user/data base. But it does run on php, which I would imagine would be easy to integrate with riocar.org, not that I want it like that.

But even if we switched to another board, we'd need to be able to move all our users, settings, and archives over into the new format, and that would be very hard, even if a new board supported the conversion.

Besides, some wierd, minor style bugs are hardly a reason for going ahead with a process like that.
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#119229 - 09/10/2002 11:48 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: Dignan]
drakino
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I guess I should make myself clear, I wasn't looking at migrating this board to other software, I was just curious for other projects down the road.

Besides, some wierd, minor style bugs are hardly a reason for going ahead with a process like that.

Well, the minor style bugs just adds to my list of issues with this software. Poking at the code is not a ton of fun. Reminds me quite a bit of PHPNuke actually. The FAQ code driving Tony's masterpiece and the Developer section is pretty much completly rewritten from scratch. The rest of the code is riddles with hacks and patches I did to work around some annoyning issues. And this has left me at a point of not easially being able to upgrade RioCar.Org to anything newer. Of course, the good question is why would I want to. The BBS software here would add a ton of annoyning features with no way of disabling them via a config file. Upgrading RioCar.org would probably add very little benefit, as PHPNuke and others are more aimed as news site software.

Oh well, don't mind my ranting. It's liable to happen any time I go and touch the code.

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#119230 - 09/10/2002 11:54 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: Dignan]
loren
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But I'm not sure how well it would work with such a large user/data base.

Trust me, it could EASILY handle this board. I host Wil Wheaton's site, and he uses phpBB... it is unfarkingbelievable how much traffic that thing gets.

http://www.wilwheaton.net/phpBB2/
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#119231 - 05/03/2004 13:43 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: drakino]
tms13
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I've now reached 1000+ posts. Have I earnt an upgrade?

If you need convincing, I have contributed some good stuff, such as the Peugeot stalk adapter resistor network and the playlist DSSSL stylesheet, in addition to the usual inane waffle...
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#119232 - 05/03/2004 14:55 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: tms13]
drakino
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I haven't pulled out the green stick in a while, was hoping to get the boards migrated first before doing too many more hacks to the database.

Don't worry though, your not alone in this neglect. I have several people that need to be turned green on my list.

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#119233 - 05/03/2004 17:25 Re: Ooh! Pretty colors! [Re: drakino]
tms13
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Thanks, Tom.
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