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#138119 - 29/01/2003 12:38 new software version?
Lemmy
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Registered: 03/12/1999
Posts: 118
Loc: Germany
Isn't it almost time now for the next one of the never ending betas?
Since 2.0 b 3 the life cycle of a beta version had been half a year at the longest... and I'm still wanting to get a decent RDS.

bye,
[L]
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#138120 - 29/01/2003 13:00 Re: new software version? [Re: Lemmy]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
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Loc: Columbus, OH
Don't know if you've been around much lately, but the rumor is that it's been released to the alpha team, so keep an eye out.
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#138121 - 29/01/2003 13:15 Re: new software version? [Re: JBjorgen]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
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Don't know if you've been around much lately


Doubtful... I think that the only time that Lemmy comes here is too demand working RDS. I don't think he enjoys our company otherwise
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#138122 - 29/01/2003 13:17 Re: new software version? [Re: genixia]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Well, he should be happy, supposedly they fixed some RDS bugs in recent builds. Too bad I'm in the US and can't test them.
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#138123 - 29/01/2003 17:13 Re: new software version? [Re: tfabris]
rob
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Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
In fact the only thing holding back Release Candidate 1 is that the RDS AF fix isn't fully working. Toby is working on that now, and as a result there is a new visual - AF station real time signal strength graph

TA has been long fixed as far as I know.

Rob

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#138124 - 30/01/2003 08:03 Re: new software version? [Re: genixia]
Lemmy
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Registered: 03/12/1999
Posts: 118
Loc: Germany
I _do_ come here now and then but I got no troubles with my empeg so I keep my feet still. All I need now is... guess what? working RDS.

bye,
[L]
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#138125 - 30/01/2003 08:04 Re: new software version? [Re: tfabris]
Lemmy
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Posts: 118
Loc: Germany
gimme gimme gimme....


not only I'm in the country with one of the best RDS 'networks' so to speak, I'm also in a region where especially RDS AF would be really stressed.


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#138126 - 30/01/2003 16:11 Re: new software version? [Re: Lemmy]
suomi35
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Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 290
Loc: Denver, CO
How long is the new version usually with the alpha team before release to the public?
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#138127 - 30/01/2003 16:16 Re: new software version? [Re: suomi35]
tfabris
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Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
It doesn't follow a set schedule. It's an EOL product, they work on the car player software in their spare time.
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#138128 - 30/01/2003 19:20 Re: new software version? [Re: suomi35]
rob
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Posts: 5335
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It was intended to release 2.0-final within a few days, but the RC failed. The XP driver had a problem (fixed quickly) and the RDS AF support continues to have a problem (working on it - only goes wrong in the car, which slows things down!).

Rob

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#138129 - 31/01/2003 08:06 Re: new software version? [Re: rob]
suomi35
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Cool! Sounds as though things are right on the brink. Keep up the good work you guys. (happy friday)
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#138130 - 02/02/2003 01:38 Re: new software version? [Re: tfabris]
Lemmy
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Posts: 118
Loc: Germany
strange thing, tho

basically you say things like "you are lucky that you get a new version at all", while rob says "it would have been out already if it weren't for a few bugs that are only reproducable in car"...

bye,
[L]
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#138131 - 02/02/2003 05:55 Re: new software version? [Re: Lemmy]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5914
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
Both statements are perfectly correct though. We are very, very lucky to be getting new versions of firmware for a product that the manufacturer hasn't sold for over a year (and probably never made any profit on).

I hope you do realise how unusual this is and how priviledged this makes us ?
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#138132 - 02/02/2003 13:19 Re: new software version? [Re: andy]
justinlarsen
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Registered: 31/12/2001
Posts: 1109
Loc: Petaluma, CA
yes, its going to be great when its out, but im almost certain that once version 2.0 final is out, thats gunna be it for software dev on the player. Which is fine by me.
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#138133 - 02/02/2003 15:51 Re: new software version? [Re: justinlarsen]
AndrewT
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Registered: 16/02/2002
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Loc: Oxford, UK
im almost certain that once version 2.0 final is out, thats gunna be it for software dev on the player

Hopefully you're wrong - see this post by Rob.

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#138134 - 02/02/2003 16:10 Re: new software version? [Re: AndrewT]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
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Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
Indeed, he has made further hints in that direction more recently as well.
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#138135 - 02/02/2003 19:59 Re: new software version? [Re: andy]
justinlarsen
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whoa, i need to read the forum more.. rockin! i stand corrected.
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#138136 - 04/02/2003 20:38 Re: new software version? [Re: justinlarsen]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
The whole reason for getting 2.0 out of the way is so we can move on to the cool stuff in v3. I want to get some more free beta testing out of you guys

Rob

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#138137 - 05/02/2003 00:24 Re: new software version? [Re: rob]
justinlarsen
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haha thats the ticket.
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#138138 - 05/02/2003 02:43 Re: new software version? [Re: rob]
AndrewT
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Loc: Oxford, UK
I want to get some more free beta testing out of you guys

Likewise!

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#138139 - 05/02/2003 04:33 Re: new software version? [Re: AndrewT]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Hmm... I am not so sure... I am guessing that you want all of the really cool features you have been working on in the new products to be available in your car right now...
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#138140 - 05/02/2003 08:02 Re: new software version? [Re: rob]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
No one in the US can use RDS anyway, so its no problem for us!

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#138141 - 05/02/2003 21:06 Re: new software version? [Re: rob]
number6
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In reply to:


The whole reason for getting 2.0 out of the way is so we can move on to the cool stuff in v3. I want to get some more free beta testing out of you guys




So THATS what you tell the bean counters you're doing when you devote SB time and resources on software upgrades for a EOL'ed product?

Nice thinking - and I bet they believed you too...



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#138142 - 11/02/2003 08:34 Re: new software version? [Re: number6]
rob
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Nice thinking - and I bet they believed you too...

It's a good argument. Our new hard disk portable shares much of the same code, including as yet untested features such as Ogg Vorbis and Cross Fade.

Rob

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#138143 - 11/02/2003 08:36 Re: new software version? [Re: rob]
pgrzelak
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That is something I am sure many of us would be willing to test for you...
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#138144 - 11/02/2003 19:23 Re: new software version? [Re: rob]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Crossfade!!!!

droooooooooolllll
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#138145 - 12/02/2003 01:52 Re: new software version? [Re: rob]
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
How useful is it having a small tame bunch of beta testers out here with empegs to the sonicblue futre
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#138146 - 12/02/2003 04:50 Re: new software version? [Re: thinfourth2]
pgrzelak
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Tame???
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#138147 - 12/02/2003 17:28 Re: new software version? [Re: rob]
rob
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Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
OK so after a lot of debugging by Toby we discover that the tuner module in the A Class is screwed, and the RDS AF code actually appears to work perfectly. [censored]

So, we should now be able to release RC2 to the alpha team and see where that leads us.

Rob

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#138148 - 12/02/2003 18:35 Re: new software version? [Re: rob]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Posts: 4903
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Sweet! Thanks for thinking of us Rob!
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#138149 - 13/02/2003 03:04 Re: new software version? [Re: rob]
boxer
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Registered: 16/04/2002
Posts: 2011
Loc: Yorkshire UK
RDS AF code actually appears to work perfectly

Quite happy to take it to Fylingdales and Memwith Hill, The USAF radar must be at its most intense, right now - if an Empeg can survive that, it can survive any airport radar!
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#138150 - 13/02/2003 03:41 Re: new software version? [Re: boxer]
peter
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Posts: 4172
Loc: Cambridge, England
Quite happy to take it to Fylingdales and Memwith Hill, The USAF radar must be at its most intense, right now - if an Empeg can survive that, it can survive any airport radar!

Parking outside Menwith Hill and fiddling with unidentifiable bits of electronics may not be all that smart a move right now...

Peter

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#138151 - 13/02/2003 03:48 Re: new software version? [Re: peter]
boxer
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Parking outside Menwith Hill

I fancied a holiday in Cuba, It'll just be on the wrong side! Anyway, it was only a trojan horse to jump the queue for the software.
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#138152 - 13/03/2003 04:52 Re: new software version? - Update? [Re: rob]
meast
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Registered: 30/12/2001
Posts: 48
Been a little while. Any updates on the progress of RC2, Rob?

(Thanks for the quick shipping on my new handle, by the way...)

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#138153 - 13/03/2003 23:18 Re: new software version? - Update? [Re: meast]
rob
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Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
The general alpha team consensus seems to be that we should fix more bugs before releasing an RC3 or a final. Maybe we'll release RC2 to the world at large as an interim.

In other news, we released v3.00-alpha1 to the alpha team yesterday. This is a very clunky early release but hopefully we'll whip it into shape to follow on quickly from 2.0-final. It has lots of fun toys.

Rob

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#138154 - 14/03/2003 00:05 Re: new software version? - Update? [Re: rob]
Shonky
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Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
You've really got to stop telling the masses about these versions Rob.

Just makes us want them more. Then we hound you. Then you tell us about something new. Cycle repeats...
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#138155 - 14/03/2003 10:07 Re: new software version? - Update? [Re: Shonky]
mdavey
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Registered: 06/03/2003
Posts: 269
Loc: Wellingborough, UK
You've really got to stop telling the masses about these versions Rob.

Or give the RCs to everyone on this board
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#138156 - 14/03/2003 13:31 Re: new software version? - Update? [Re: rob]
tms13
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Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 1115
Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
Given the bug-fixes I've seen reported here, and assuming that the alpha-test team have found no real show-stoppers in RC2, I'd certainly be among those installing it if it were available. Even at the expense of some delay to 2.0 final, because you've fixed the RDS bugs that I care about and the remaining bugs are less important to me. Is it true that there are no known regressions compared with 2.0b13?

I know it's your decision and all that, but it can't harm to have a go, right?
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#138157 - 14/03/2003 16:48 Re: new software version? - Update? [Re: tms13]
SE_Sport_Driver
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I just can't wait to get this out of the way so we can look forward to 3.00 and cross fading (and whatever else they've dreamed up! )
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