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#165184 - 11/06/2003 17:56 I hate my plextor drive
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
I feel like ranting tonight. I have made 10 coasters tonight trying to write 3 fricking files on a CD. Either this drive is a piece of crap or Easy CD Creator is garbage.
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#165185 - 11/06/2003 18:14 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
fusto
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Registered: 27/12/2001
Posts: 504
Loc: Lummi Island, WA
Ive only ever had bad luck with EZ CD.

I hate to say it but...
uh.. now I use the built in XP cd write utility.

The interface is a little wonky, but I've yet to have a failure. Thats with an HP 9700 burner.
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#165186 - 11/06/2003 18:16 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
I'd say Easy CD Creator is your more likely problem.
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#165187 - 11/06/2003 18:28 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: robricc]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
I tried dragging and dropping in explorer and then the CD won't eject and I shut down the computer and stick in the paper-clip to get it out and boot up and the CD shows blank.

What other programs are there to use?
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#165188 - 11/06/2003 18:40 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
jamville
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Registered: 23/08/2002
Posts: 93
Loc: South Texas
I have never had a problem with Nero Burning ROM.
www.nero.com

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#165189 - 11/06/2003 18:47 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
DeadFire
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Registered: 30/05/2002
Posts: 695
Seconded. Nero is the best. And in recent versions, Nero Express gives you a super easy interface. So you don't have to worry about all the advanced options if you don't want to.

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#165190 - 11/06/2003 18:57 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
Phoenix42
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Registered: 21/03/2002
Posts: 1424
Loc: MA but Irish born
yeah what everyone else said
Plextor - Good
EZCD - Bad
Nero - Good

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#165191 - 11/06/2003 18:59 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: jamville]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
I'm downloading the demo version now and will let you know if I was able to burn or make more coasters. I'm glad I bought a pack of 20 today, most are history already.
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#165192 - 11/06/2003 19:26 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: DeadFire]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
Thank you very much guys. I have finally burned my first CD (yes, I am very behind the times)
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#165193 - 11/06/2003 19:42 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
I just want to add another EZ-CD is garbage vote.
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#165194 - 11/06/2003 19:42 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14478
Loc: Canada
Xcdroast (front-end for cdrecord) under Linux works fine with my Plextors (and Lite-On's and ...).

Cheers!

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#165195 - 11/06/2003 19:46 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: mlord]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
I'm getting ready to remove Easy CD crap from my computer and will pay for Nero when the demo time is up. If I had used it to begin with I would have saved $6 or so on coasters.
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#165196 - 11/06/2003 19:53 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
And it didn't even load crap on system startup files like EZ CD crap does.
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#165197 - 11/06/2003 20:19 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: mlord]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Xcdroast (front-end for cdrecord) under Linux works fine
Loser. I just use mkisofs and cdrecord directly. Who needs a GUI?
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#165198 - 11/06/2003 20:20 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: mlord]
ricin
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Registered: 19/06/2000
Posts: 1495
Loc: US: CA
Yep, I use Arson now, which is also a front-end to cdrecord, etc. It has a more Nero-ish feeling to it, basically Nero for Linux. Never had a coaster from it.
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#165199 - 11/06/2003 20:21 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: wfaulk]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14478
Loc: Canada
(chuckle)

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#165200 - 11/06/2003 20:23 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: mlord]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Did I mention that my burner is on a headless server? That might have something to do with it, too.
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#165201 - 11/06/2003 20:39 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: wfaulk]
ricin
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Registered: 19/06/2000
Posts: 1495
Loc: US: CA
Ditto. But that's what exporting the display is for. I usually control the burning machine in my rack with my secondary laptop.
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#165202 - 11/06/2003 21:00 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: wfaulk]
matthew_k
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Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
I just use mkisofs and cdrecord directly. Who needs a GUI?

What, you didn't write a shell script to burn the CD automaticaly on your headless server? I just put the mp3s in a directory and it wavs->normalizes->burns all with one command. (Data? On a CD? Isn't that what FTP is for?)

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#165203 - 11/06/2003 22:17 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
And it didn't even load crap on system startup files like EZ CD crap does.
Amen! Another wonderful Nero user! I love the program. I even ordered the boxed version. Quite nice. I also have its MPEG2 decoder and it makes pretty good DVDs.

Anyway, enjoy. Nero is wonderful.
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#165204 - 12/06/2003 02:07 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Dignan]
JaBZ
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Registered: 08/08/2001
Posts: 452
Loc: NZ
ok im going against the trend, but my opinion is that Nero is crap, and nero express is worse simply cause of the fact that it only recognises it's own multisession disc's, quite often when I burn disc's with another program, and like to add files, using nero it will not import the previous sessions cause it didn't write them, it will write my file and rewrite the TOC. And lo and behold all that is on the disc is my one file I just burned GRRR!!...

I use CloneCD for cd to cd copies, and RecordNow Max for files etc... (and since this came with my pioneer dvd writer)..
works quite well.

cheers,
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#165205 - 12/06/2003 02:08 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: wfaulk]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
In reply to:

Loser. I just use mkisofs and cdrecord directly. Who needs a GUI?



Bitt, I have a wonderfull image of you! Somewhere between my A-Level computing teacher and my old electronics professor at Uni.
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#165206 - 12/06/2003 03:58 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: andym]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

Easy CD Creator used to be decent, until they got spun off into Roxio. EZCD4 worked, was stable, good. EZCD5 sucked. They broke the product, and have never gotten it working since.

I have not tried Nero, but I use CDRWIN by Goldenhawk. The UI is not as nice and windows friendly, but it was the first package (even before EZCD) to allow decent control of audio burns. It is quick, easy and gets the job done. And you can build compex CD formats (negative times, multisession CD-Extra, etc.) very nicely.

Edit - Historical note: I have been burning audio (and data) CDs ever since the dark ages of 19" rack mounted single speed burners (2x if you had the ISO image on a very fast hard drive) using a dedicated DOS workstation...


Edited by pgrzelak (12/06/2003 04:16)
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#165207 - 12/06/2003 11:18 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: pgrzelak]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
My two pence:

I actually use both EZ CD and Nero, each for different things, because I find that each one has strengths and weaknesses. I have both installed on my home PC.

On our "Master shipment files" server here at work, we use a very old version of EZ CD (version 3 or 4 I don't remember) and a very old Yamaha 4x external SCSI burner for our final shipment discs. Reason: Everything is rock stable, never makes a coaster, and we always only burn discs one specific way.
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#165208 - 12/06/2003 12:32 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: tfabris]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
Really? Which version of EZCD? A while back I tried installing one version and it insisted on my removing every other bit of CD burning software and anything remotely related.
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#165209 - 12/06/2003 12:56 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Dignan]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
At home, I think it's V5. Not sure. Nero was installed second, maybe that has something to do with it.
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#165210 - 12/06/2003 16:15 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: tfabris]
DeadFire
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Registered: 30/05/2002
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Nero has a utility that allows you to run more than one piece of CD burner software, as some of these apps load files into memory before Windows is even finished starting. I thought this utility had to be installed and configured separately from Nero, but perhaps that is not the case.

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#165211 - 13/06/2003 18:40 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Dignan]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
Ok, a question for all of those that recommended Nero. How do I burn a music CD? I have made 5 coasters tonight (I am getting very good at that) trying to burn some MP3's. I get the errors that either the file is inaccessible or different. I have tried making music CD's and a data CD and neither have worked. I have dropped the folders in and tried creating the folders through Nero Express and I get the same errors. I hate to sound stupid since this should be so easy, but what am I doing wrong?
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#165212 - 13/06/2003 18:48 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
JaBZ
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Registered: 08/08/2001
Posts: 452
Loc: NZ
Maybe it's time to consider that there's something wrong with the drive?, has it been sucessful in creating any working cd's?


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#165213 - 13/06/2003 18:53 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: JaBZ]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
I burned 1 data CD that had 3 files. It looked like they were there when I read it. I hope it's not the drive, I've had it awhile and never attempted to burn anything until this week. But it would make me feel less stupid if I can blame it on the hardware instead of the operator
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