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#180921 - 19/11/2003 23:04 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: tracerbullet]
FireFox31
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Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2491
Loc: East Coast, USA
Green, please, don't forget the green. A Darkstorm Dark Green or Darkstorm Neon Green compatible green. Mmmm, what I wouldn't do for a set of those. Or, rather, what I WOULD do!

A question about those pics with the lense off. The knob light seemed to light up the entire IR receiver and that whole area. Can you see that extreme light bleed when the lense (and fascia?) is on? If so, I might need a darker lense.

Remember, green. Green = money from me. Thanks for the hard work because the samples look great!
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#180922 - 20/11/2003 16:00 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: FireFox31]
Narkotic
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Registered: 20/02/2002
Posts: 158
Yeah stu will you be accepting pre-orders for these?

Amber would be nice

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#180923 - 20/11/2003 16:10 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: FireFox31]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
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The knob light seemed to light up the entire IR receiver and that whole area.

That problem is an issue with any lense to a lesser or greater degree. The best solution is to search for the 'magic marker mod' where you should find somewhere a printable jpg that masks out this area in black. Print it onto a transparency and trim to fit with a sharp knife. Mount on the back of the lens with a couple of bits of sticky tape.
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#180924 - 20/11/2003 16:36 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: FireFox31]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1627
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Green is definitely planned. It just wasn't in the initial batch of samples we got.

Yes, the bleeding is still visible, at least with the OEM blue lens and especially on the MAX setting. You might be able to fit some kind of shroud in there to block the light from leaking so much.

Oh, and thanks for the compliments!

Stu
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#180925 - 20/11/2003 16:42 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: Narkotic]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1627
Loc: Louisiana, USA
In reply to:

Yeah stu will you be accepting pre-orders for these?




We weren't planning on doing preorders, but we may just forward orders to the caster and let him send them back to us or even set up drop shipping with him. Stay tuned.

Amber is also planned.

Stu
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#180926 - 01/12/2003 23:15 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
elvis
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Registered: 18/01/2002
Posts: 270
Loc: Arizona USA
Still tuned!
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#180927 - 03/12/2003 09:16 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: elvis]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1627
Loc: Louisiana, USA
We're still wating on the second set of samples to arrive. The caster's been a bit slow getting them out. A mold change is also needed to get some of the voids that exist in the OEM pieces filled. I'll post pictures as they are available.

Stu
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#180928 - 15/12/2003 23:04 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
any new news?

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#180929 - 16/12/2003 00:16 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: RobotCaleb]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1627
Loc: Louisiana, USA
The caster is claiming he can get us a good supply of standard colors by the end of the year. He had to rework the mold to fill in some of the voids in the OEM parts and we still have to approve his dye mixes for green, blue, smoke, and orange. Samples of those were supposed to have gone out last week. He's not been very good on promises, so we'll see if we get things going by the first of the year.

Stu
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#180930 - 17/12/2003 16:21 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
elvis
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Registered: 18/01/2002
Posts: 270
Loc: Arizona USA
Beginning of the year? That's cool. Are you going to be able to come up with facia colored buttons?
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#180931 - 17/12/2003 16:43 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: elvis]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1627
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Fascia colored buttons are certainly possible. We may even be able to incorporate backlit graphics into opaque fascia colored buttons. The challange will be getting the specialized molds to take multiple dyes. It's really all on the caster and his willingness to cooperate.

Stu
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#180932 - 17/12/2003 16:52 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31181
Loc: Seattle, WA
It's really all on the caster and his willingness to cooperate.
Tell him we have ways of making him cooperate.

Fascia-colored buttons with backlit graphics (even just outlines) would be hella cool.
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#180933 - 17/12/2003 22:19 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: tfabris]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
I'd love black buttons with translucent arrows on them (milky white as Tony has always described I believe), with the possibility of putting a coloured piece of plastic inside them to create the desired colour when they're lit. I'd probably be interested in a set of standards plus a set of 4 rounds (for use with Tim's Newface - I've definitely decided to get one whenever Tim shows up again)

Bruno
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#180934 - 29/12/2003 11:39 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1627
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Well it looks like more delays. Not sure how long. The second set of samples is supposed to be overnighted here for tomorrow. However, it doesn't sound like we'll be able to evaluate anything but the color. We'll need a third set of samples to evaluate the new mold he's working on to make them more like Brian's rather then the more open OEM versions.

We'd go with another company, but this seems to be the only option plus we've sunk quite a bit into molds already.

Thanks for everyone's patience.

Stu
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#180935 - 30/12/2003 15:52 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
Narkotic
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Registered: 20/02/2002
Posts: 158
Appreciated for the update... i'm waiting very patiently... if you happen to get a set of amber test samples and they look decent, i'll buy em'..

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#180936 - 30/12/2003 16:27 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: Narkotic]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1627
Loc: Louisiana, USA
We're supposed to be receiving a set. Actually we were supposed to have gotten them already. When they do come, they will be hollowed out like the OEMs rather than "filled in." We'll have to wait for another round of samples for those and I don't know what color they will be in.

Stu
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#180937 - 31/12/2003 12:51 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1627
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Samples arrived. I'll post pictures when I can. They are only the knobs this time though.

Stu
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#180938 - 31/12/2003 14:27 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
cookie_77
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Registered: 08/03/2002
Posts: 145
Woo Hoo..

C.

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#180939 - 02/01/2004 12:20 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1627
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Here's Amber. Remember that these are hollowed out like the OEM buttons, so the filled in ones will look different (better). As you can see, we only got the knobs.

Stu




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#180940 - 02/01/2004 12:23 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1627
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Here's blue. Above disclaimers apply here too. This one has the lens installed since I have a blue one and thought it would be good to compare to the VFD.

Stu



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#180941 - 02/01/2004 12:25 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1627
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Smoke. Appears too dark to me, especially if filled in instead of hollowed out.

Stu



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#180942 - 02/01/2004 12:28 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1627
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Green. This one looks blue when lit even in person. The dye mix needs to be tweeked obviously.

Stu



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#180943 - 02/01/2004 13:04 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

They certainly look good. The form is just right. Now for the filling, hopefully with something to assist diffusion from the LEDs without blocking too much light.
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#180944 - 02/01/2004 19:08 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
Mach
old hand

Registered: 15/07/2002
Posts: 826
Loc: Texas, USA
Very cool. They look like the detail is coming out well. I hope the mold process gets easier.

Alvin

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#180945 - 03/01/2004 04:55 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: maczrool]
Major_Sarcasm
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Registered: 28/08/2003
Posts: 149
Loc: Isle of Wight, UK
IMHO, I would say the 'green' is a better match for the standard blue lens!

Just an opinion
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#180946 - 03/01/2004 05:01 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: Major_Sarcasm]
_hardcore_
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Registered: 22/09/2000
Posts: 195
Loc: Copenhagen, Denmark
IMHO, I would say the 'green' is a better match for the standard blue lens!


I second that.

\\Kaare

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#180947 - 03/01/2004 22:41 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: _hardcore_]
Skunk
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Registered: 26/08/2003
Posts: 525
Loc: California
Isn't the problem with the Color matches the LED's and not the dyes. You are using Blue LED's right?
I do not have the LED mod on my empeg so I'm not sure if the LED's are just so bright they look blue.
If everyone who has this mod has blue LED's then I would correct the dye, If not I'd leave them the way they are.

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#180948 - 04/01/2004 04:42 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: Skunk]
Major_Sarcasm
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Registered: 28/08/2003
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Loc: Isle of Wight, UK
That is a very good point. Colour match is very inportant to me as I have an indiglo dash kit in my Pulsar, along with some A'pexi fuelling and boost controllers. The blue lens on my Empeg is a good match for all this stuff, but I don't want the buttons to be yet another shade of blue

I haven't got my LED mod yet, as I was waiting to get the new buttons first... now I'm a bit confuzled - what colour are the LEDs in the kit from eutronix?



My empeg is the little splash of blue at the bottom
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#180949 - 04/01/2004 05:33 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: Major_Sarcasm]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
One normally uses white LEDs and let the color of the buttons/knob (or possibly a colored insert) make the color. Looking at Eutronix' page for the LED kit, at least the surface mount (knob) LEDs are white, and I see no reason that the 3mm ones shouldn't be as well.

/Michael
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#180950 - 04/01/2004 07:03 Re: Casting of Buttons, Redux [Re: mtempsch]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3979
Loc: Manchester UK
My kit from Stu had white leds in it.
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