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#193709 - 16/12/2003 08:11 European Carry-all
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
Yes, much like Jerry, I need something to tow my stuff.

Some of you may feel the same way I do. My girlfriend is able to carry around an obscene amount of stuff, while I'm trying to think of a place to put my phone, wallet, and keys.

I don't know how many of you are like me, but I can't stand having much at all in my pockets. I don't carry a single thing in my back pockets (I've never put my wallet there), and when I'm sitting down I always take my wallet and put it on a table or something. I just get incredibly uncomfortable. Hell, when I go to a restaurant with friends or something, they make fun of me because half of my side of the table is taken up by my keys, phone, wallet, watch, and whatever else is with me.

So what's the solution? I suppose its a "european carry-all," like on Seinfeld. Here we see the problem, though. Guys don't want purses. Well, straight ones usually don't

So does anyone have any suggestions? Basically, I want something big enough to fit my phone, its foldable keyboard, a camera, and maybe some other stuff. But it can't look like a purse. What would you guys suggest?

"Hey Silvio, look at Jerry here, prancing around in his coat with his purse. Yup, he's a dandy. He's a real fancy boy!"
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#193710 - 16/12/2003 08:54 Re: European Carry-all [Re: Dignan]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
Hehe, you could alwsy tote around either a toolbox or violin case. Seriously, I have the same problem. My current solution si to basically hang everything off my belt. Sometimes I feel like batman.

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#193711 - 16/12/2003 09:01 Re: European Carry-all [Re: Dignan]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
I don't know what they're properly called, but those small belt-like waist packs are really common around here (Canada). And when I was in Europe twice this year, I used my shoulder-hung camera bag as a general-purpose tote. When in Toronto, I frequently carry a canvas army shoulder bag.

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#193712 - 16/12/2003 09:02 Re: European Carry-all [Re: mlord]
robricc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
small belt-like waist packs
fanny pack?
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#193713 - 16/12/2003 09:03 Re: European Carry-all [Re: robricc]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Well, most people seem to wear them in the front, not over the fanny. And they're much smaller than what we called fanny packs when I was a young'n.

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#193714 - 16/12/2003 09:23 Re: European Carry-all [Re: Dignan]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I'd say a soft-sided leather attache with a shoulder strap that you could wear across your body. That way, it looks like you're carrying books and papers, but it might be too bulky for what you're looking for.
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#193715 - 16/12/2003 09:58 Re: European Carry-all [Re: Dignan]
cushman
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Registered: 21/01/2002
Posts: 1380
Loc: Erie, CO
When I'm going on a trip where I will need more than my phone, wallet and keys, I carry a small Timbuk2 messenger bag. I have the Pee Wee, but it looks like one of their new models is pretty cool too, the Metro. My bag is 6 years old and looks like it is brand new. It's very well built, I'd dare say bombproof. I found out about their products from a friend of mine who was a bike messenger in DC for a summer.
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#193716 - 16/12/2003 10:07 Re: European Carry-all [Re: wfaulk]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
No no, that's about what I'm looking for. I should have also included that I'm not fond of "fanny packs" (that's what they're generally called in the US, regardless of where the main pocket rests).

I was thinking of getting something over-the-shoulder. Plus, the right type of leather can make it look sufficiently "manly" as to not turn it into a purse.
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#193717 - 16/12/2003 10:17 Re: European Carry-all [Re: robricc]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
fanny pack?

Tee hee!

Fanny means something completely different on this side of the atlantic.

They're usually referred to as a bum bag over here. But seriously don't get one unless you like bri-nylon slacks, carry round a thermos of weak lemon drink and have glasses held together with elastoplast.
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#193718 - 16/12/2003 10:23 Re: European Carry-all [Re: Dignan]
DWallach
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Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 3810
Personally, I use a plain, black, two-straps-over-the-shoulders back pack. (Well, actually mine has all kinds of weird features like a separate internal pocket for your laptop, but anyway...). These days, there's plenty of variation in the world of the backpack. The new "hip" backpacks have only one thick strap, emulating the common usage of just slinging your bag over one shoulder. Likewise, I've seen lots of people using "courier bags" (commonly seen on bike messengers). A surprisingly common feature is having a cel-phone pocket attached to one of the shoulder straps. Of course, I work on a college campus where everybody's hauling books and such around. I also see perhaps more cargo pants than appear in the general population.

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#193719 - 16/12/2003 10:25 Re: European Carry-all [Re: Dignan]
ithoughti
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Registered: 17/07/2001
Posts: 721
Loc: Boston, MA USA
ok fellow MetroSexual wannabe. We like to call them "messenger bags" Here are a few from Yahoo! shopping. You can even get a nice fancy Prada bag if you want. Please just don't get a fanny pack!
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#193720 - 16/12/2003 10:35 Re: European Carry-all [Re: ithoughti]
ithoughti
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Registered: 17/07/2001
Posts: 721
Loc: Boston, MA USA
Here is a funny little story about man-purse frustrations. In it he recommends the DJ Handbag from Target. Looks pretty good really.
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#193721 - 16/12/2003 10:38 Re: European Carry-all [Re: ithoughti]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Messenger!

All I could come up with was ``courier bag'' which apparently refers to something else.
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#193722 - 16/12/2003 10:39 Re: European Carry-all [Re: ithoughti]
ithoughti
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Registered: 17/07/2001
Posts: 721
Loc: Boston, MA USA
ok, sorry for all the posts, but look at

Manbag.com
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#193723 - 16/12/2003 11:06 Re: European Carry-all [Re: ithoughti]
trs24
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Registered: 20/03/2002
Posts: 729
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
The Timbuk2 messenger bags are pretty cool, too. I use one to carry my powerbook around in. Back when I got my powerbook, there weren't many laptop cases that would fit it - so I had to go with a messenger bag. I've never gone back.

EDIT: Ah - I didn't see that Cushman recommended the Timbuk2, too. So make mine a second for Timbuk2.

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Edited by trs24 (16/12/2003 11:23)
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#193724 - 16/12/2003 11:17 Re: European Carry-all [Re: cushman]
g_attrill
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Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 1172
Loc: Hants, UK
I'll third a Timbuk2 if they do one the right size. I have had one for several years and, as you would imagine, it was excellent for taking crap to university on my bike. Five or so years later I am still taking it to work every day and all the pockets are very useful.

I have carried god knows what in mine in *all* weathers and it refuses to break. The only thing that has gone is the velcro strips on the flap but I think I can glue some new stuff on considering the rubbery nature of the lining (which is another good thing - it's *very* easy to clean out squashed melted chocolate)

Edit: Bum-bags/fanny packs (tee hee) are useful but deeply unfashionable and would probably make you an instant mugging target in London due to the loser/tourist image.

Gareth

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#193725 - 16/12/2003 11:45 Re: European Carry-all [Re: trs24]
andy
carpal tunnel

Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5914
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
http://www.crumplerusa.com/ have a similar range
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#193726 - 16/12/2003 12:38 Re: European Carry-all [Re: ithoughti]
Dignan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
Thanks, everyone.

For the moment, the Manbag looks pretty good. I may try to find something a little nicer (possibly leather, like Bitt originally suggested).

The Timbuk2 bags, as well as the CrumplerUSA bags are all pretty bad colors, unless I were a bike messenger.

I like how that DJ Handbag has teenage girls posting about it xxaznprincessxx said "I just got the DJ BAG! It is so cute!", and another said "its a great little bag, perfect for all your makeup or school supplies, or whatever." Definitely a guy thing The writer notes that it was probably designed for women, though. It looks like a nice thing to start with, though, because at $9.99 it's hard to argue with.
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#193727 - 16/12/2003 12:59 Re: European Carry-all [Re: Dignan]
JeffS
carpal tunnel

Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2858
Loc: Atlanta, GA
Ah the joys of carrying a laptop to work every day (which means I can use the bag for everything I need). Add this to the fact that I don't carry a cell phone or PDA and I do OK. The only thing I have to deal with is carrying my empeg, but that's worth it!
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#193728 - 16/12/2003 13:26 Re: European Carry-all [Re: Dignan]
_hardcore_
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Registered: 22/09/2000
Posts: 195
Loc: Copenhagen, Denmark
Try a simpler solution, stop carrying all that with you. Limit what you're carrying to a small mobilephone, 1 & 2 keys and a single creditcard. Fits allmost anywhere.

I have like you allways disliked carrying anything in my pockets, especially in the back pockets, i can't stand some of those guys that has this extremely large wallet in the back pockets, i suspect that the opposite sex thinks it looks goofy.

.. or start wearing suits, there is plenty of room for the above mentioned - fits in the pockets of the jacket without anyone being able to see it.

And if you really need to carry extra stuff with you, the right solution is starring right in your face now. Buy an extra empeg bag and stuff your gear in that.

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#193729 - 16/12/2003 13:53 Re: European Carry-all [Re: _hardcore_]
cushman
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Registered: 21/01/2002
Posts: 1380
Loc: Erie, CO
I don't like having anything in my back pocket, either. I carry my credit cards, driver's license and cash in a binder clip (like you would find in any office) instead of a money clip. This keeps the size down to a minimum, if you fold your bills in thirds. Go light!
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#193730 - 16/12/2003 14:50 Re: European Carry-all [Re: _hardcore_]
Dignan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
Limit what you're carrying to a small mobilephone, 1 & 2 keys and a single creditcard. Fits allmost anywhere.
Easier said than done. As it is, I don't think I'm going to get rid of my P800 anytime soon, and the whole point of that was to eliminate the need for me to get a PDA. My keys are actually not a problem, as I enjoy carrying them on a carabiner that hangs from a belt loop. I can put any number of things on there and it won't bother me.

As for carrying a single credit card, I wouldn't feel very secure. I just know I'd always be checking my pocket to make sure it hadn't slipped out when I sat down somewhere.

Nah, I'm someone who likes having his stuff with him. Especially his gadgets
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#193731 - 16/12/2003 19:34 Re: European Carry-all [Re: Dignan]
g_attrill
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Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 1172
Loc: Hants, UK
The Timbuk2 bags, as well as the CrumplerUSA bags are all pretty bad colors, unless I were a bike messenger.

Er, the Crumpler link has lots of colours and Timbuk2 are all custom made to your choice (eg. blue/silver/blue looks great). I bought mine from the only place in the UK that sold them at the time and only had a choice of two (something awful and "plum").

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#193732 - 16/12/2003 21:50 Re: European Carry-all [Re: g_attrill]
Dignan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
Ah, I see. I didn't know the colors were customizeable. I'd recommend to that company that they make that better known on their front page, because the initial colors you see on their homepage are very off-putting.

Regardless, I'm not really into that style, so I'll pass on that brand.

At the moment, I'm waiting for info from the people at Manbag.com as to whether or not they know if my P800 will fit allright into the cell phone pocket of the Manbag Original. That's looking like a winner at the moment. I'd prefer leather, but I think it's sufficiently non-womanly for me to carry around


*edit*
Oops, it looks like the company is actually called "Man-n-bag". I think I prefered my name for them


Edited by DiGNAN17 (16/12/2003 21:52)
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#193733 - 16/12/2003 23:55 Re: European Carry-all [Re: Dignan]
trs24
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Registered: 20/03/2002
Posts: 729
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
I don't know, man. That bag looks an awful lot like the purse my girlfriend carries around.

- trs
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#193734 - 17/12/2003 04:25 Re: European Carry-all [Re: trs24]
boxer
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Registered: 16/04/2002
Posts: 2011
Loc: Yorkshire UK
Out of all these suggestions, isn't there one that would be suitable as an Empeg replacement? - something I'm trying to organise on another thread - but to get something high quality in small numbers, seems to be a problem.
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#193735 - 17/12/2003 08:17 Re: European Carry-all [Re: Dignan]
cushman
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Registered: 21/01/2002
Posts: 1380
Loc: Erie, CO
I don't know, dude, there's just something about that name I don't care for. Especially when (almost all of) the models have their logo "Man Bag" on the outside. Calling it a "man bag" could sound funny:

"Dammit! The dog is chewing on my man bag!"

"Whoops, I just dropped a bowling ball on my man bag."

"Honey, can you hand me my man bag? I want to go out with the guys tonight."
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#193736 - 17/12/2003 08:29 Re: European Carry-all [Re: cushman]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
"Honey, can you hand me my man bag? I want to go out with the guys tonight."
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#193737 - 17/12/2003 08:34 Re: European Carry-all [Re: cushman]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
Dude, anything I get that's been suggested in this thread will fit that post correctly. Or I could go with one of the messenger bags that have been mentioned, and people will mistake me for a city bike messenger

This why the whole damn subject is difficult!
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#193738 - 17/12/2003 08:46 Re: European Carry-all [Re: Dignan]
cushman
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Registered: 21/01/2002
Posts: 1380
Loc: Erie, CO
Granted, this will make you look like a bike messenger (is that so bad anyway?)



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