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#233231 - 12/09/2004 16:04 Carbon ?'s
JayF
journeyman

Registered: 22/07/2004
Posts: 63

This player will be fine to jog with correct? Thats one reason I never bought a nitrus or karma.

Also where is the best place to pick one up??

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#233232 - 12/09/2004 18:10 Re: Carbon ?'s [Re: JayF]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

It still has a disk drive in it, so it really should be treated with some level of caution. I have not heard any reports of people having trouble with it, but it still has moving parts, similar to the Nitrus and (to a lesser extent) Karma.

As to where, well, I am not really sure at the moment. I think Best Buy was reported to have some.

Not to helpful I will admit...
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#233233 - 13/09/2004 00:52 Re: Carbon ?'s [Re: pgrzelak]
msaeger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
I went to best buy today to check out the carbon and they had one on display but I didn't get to see the package. The display one was actually working and had music loaded on it.

As for jogging I don't think the carbon would be any better than the nitrus or karma. I would either get it at a store that you can get an extended warranty from or buy a flash player.
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#233234 - 13/09/2004 05:15 Re: Carbon ?'s [Re: msaeger]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
On a semi related note.... I wonder how many ipods I could get apple to warranty after killing the hdd by waving it around like a moron like portrayed in the ipod commercials
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#233235 - 14/09/2004 00:23 Re: Carbon ?'s [Re: msaeger]
JayF
journeyman

Registered: 22/07/2004
Posts: 63

forgive the dumb question here but I thought the carbon had a 5gb flash/microdrive in it? What parts are moving inside?

Would a muvo 2 or a ipod mini be more suitable for jogging? I'd really rather have Rio product but if it won't hold up for jogging then I guess it'll have to be muvo 2 or ipod.

Will check my local Best Buy.

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#233236 - 14/09/2004 00:29 Re: Carbon ?'s [Re: JayF]
robricc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Microdrives are little hard drives inside a CompactFlash TypeII form factor. They are obviously moving parts....



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#233237 - 14/09/2004 01:35 Re: Carbon ?'s [Re: JayF]
JeffS
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2858
Loc: Atlanta, GA
doesn't the iPod mini also have a micro drive as well, just like the Carbon?
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#233238 - 14/09/2004 01:41 Re: Carbon ?'s [Re: JeffS]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Yep
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#233239 - 14/09/2004 04:40 Re: Carbon ?'s [Re: JeffS]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5914
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
...and so do all the other 5GB players...
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#233240 - 14/09/2004 12:45 Re: Carbon ?'s [Re: andy]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3582
Loc: Columbus, OH
The Rio Forge is what you're looking for (if 1 GB is enough space).
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#233241 - 14/09/2004 13:12 Re: Carbon ?'s [Re: JayF]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
It would seem that (in theory) it should be possible to replace the Carbon's Microdrive CF card with a solid-state flash memory CF card. Unfortunately the 2GB & 4 GB flash cards are now about $280 and $570 respectively. While expensive, this would give you a high capacity flash based player. The Micro-Drives are significantly less expensive than comparable flash memory devices per GB, but have lower I/O speeds (not so important with an mp3 player) and are prone to mechanical failure in higher vibration environments.

-Zeke
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#233242 - 14/09/2004 15:38 Re: Carbon ?'s [Re: JBjorgen]
mldarm
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Registered: 15/11/2003
Posts: 18
Loc: Texas
Does anybody know the specifics on the "up to 1GB" for storage of the Forge? Does it mean that if I get a 1GB SD card, the total memory recognized is going to be 1GB whether I have the 126MB, 256MB, or 512MB Forge? Is there a chance that a future firmware update could change the max amount of storage (say, if someday 2GB SD cards are available for a reasonable price)?

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#233243 - 15/09/2004 07:27 Re: Carbon ?'s [Re: mldarm]
adavidw
addict

Registered: 10/11/2000
Posts: 497
Loc: Utah, USA
The total storage is aggregate. A 512 MB Forge with a 1GB cards gives you ~1.5GB. As card sizes increase, I'd expect them to continue working. There's probably some upper limit somewhere, but nothing hard and fast.
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#233244 - 15/09/2004 08:57 Re: Carbon ?'s [Re: adavidw]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Kind of like the empeg... (Sorry, I just could not resist...)
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