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#5229 - 13/10/1999 18:00 Q: The rest of the system?
stil
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Registered: 01/10/1999
Posts: 31
Loc: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Hi, everyone... I got my unit, and am ready to replace my existing (stock) system to accomodate it. I'm looking for recommendation on the equipment I can use:

Here are the details: This is going in a 98 Pontiac Sunfire GT. The current head unit is a 1-1/2 height CD player, so I'll need to get a mounting kit in order to fit it in flush with the interior of my car. I assume I'll also need to get an adaptor so I can plug the power/antenna wires into the car. These parts AFAIK are pretty much all the same--get the cheapest one.

Speakers: The stock holes fit 6x9's in the rear (above the trunk) and (I think) 4x6's in the front on the doors. I'm not sure how to find out whether these are 4x6's or round 4" without butchering the interior of the door. Is there a web site that lists specs for stock systems on different cars?

I am looking into getting a pair of Crystal CXe 464's for the front and Crystal CXe 693's for the rear. The only thing is, they are quite expensive. An alternative would be Blaupunkt (PCxg462 and PCxg693). These would save me $110 but I'm not sure how much sound quality or power I would be sacrificing. Can anyone recommend speakers (around 50W rms for fronts, 100W rms for rears) for use with the stock holes in my car?

Amp: I need a 4-channel amp that can drive the above setup, and also work nicely with the empeg unit. Looking at the Audio Art 140.4XE (35Wx4), but I am admittedly clueless to the world of amps. I'd like to know what the experts here recommend.

In the future I'll probably be getting myself a subwoofer or two for the trunk, so I'll probably need an external crossover + a seperate amp for the subs--but I'd like to make sure the system I get now will allow me to add this kind of setup.

A friend of mine said he doesn't recommend I fill the holes with oval speakers. He said they "suck" and I should get plates and round component speakers if they will fit. What's the verdict on these? The ovals are less expensive, but I've never listened to make a comparison.

Anything else I am forgetting?

Thanks in advance for the help!


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#5230 - 14/10/1999 13:44 Re: Q: The rest of the system? [Re: stil]
tanstaafl.
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5539
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
Ryan --

I'm certainly no expert, but I can tell you what has worked well for me, assuming you want to build a sound-quality system, as opposed to a "boomer" to impress the hell out of the chicks. ;-) (Nothing wrong with a boomer system, just not my cup of tea, that's all.)

I have had original Ford speakers; Blaupunkts; and Crystals up forward in my dash (round 4" or thereabouts) and finally went to the MB Quart RKB-100 4" co-axials. The difference between those MB Quarts and anything else I had tried is beyond description. They are not cheap (around $250 for the pair, I think) but they are absolutely the key element of my car audio system. I also have some other MB Quart speakers in the six inch range in doors and for center channel in dash.

Amplifiers I can't really advise you on. I am running a pair of PPI amps (a 100 watt amp for the small speakers, and a separate 50 watt amp for my sub) and they have been entirely satisfactory. I have had no experience with other amps. My impression is they're good, but not extraordinary quality. They sell for around $250 each, I think.

For your subwoofers, avoid the "bigger must be better" syndrome. Don't ruin the utility of your car by filling up the whole trunk with big boxes of subwoofers. My system has a single 10" speaker (running full spectrum, not crossed over like it is supposed to be, but that is another story...) and I don't think it is coincidence that at the IASCA state finals a few weeks ago the three cars (mine among them!) that were unquestionably the best in sound quality had nothing larger than 10", with a total of four ten-inch speakers among all three cars.

In my limited experience, the factors that contribute most to high quality sound are not the brand names and power of the equipment, but appropriate speaker size, speaker location, and the acoustic properties of the vehicle itself. (That last one is where bigger really is better -- the more air volume inside the passenger compartment you have to work with, the better you can do. It is really hard to get good sound in a pickup truck, for example. Vans and station wagons (yeah! wagons ;-) seem to work best.)

Good luck on your install and keep us waiting-queue-challenged empeg-wannabes posted.

tanstaafl.




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