Production Knobs and Buttons

Posted by: maczrool

Production Knobs and Buttons - 15/02/2004 19:01

I think we finally have some finished prototypes. The amber, blue, red, and smoke appear to be just right. The green is still a bit too yellow, so that will come later this week. Every thing fits now, as soon as we get the final price tomorrow, we'll place an order and hopefully have some to sell by the end of the week. I'll post pictures later.

Stu

Posted by: tman

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 15/02/2004 19:36

Excellent!

Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 15/02/2004 19:42

Me too!!!

Edit: Bah, humbug - I thought it was transparent!

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 16/02/2004 20:32

Here's a picture with everything but red. Blue is just like Brian's now as is amber and red. I'm not sure about smoke, but I think it's close as well. The knob diffuses a bit better than Brian's while the buttons are about the same. Green is still being tweaked. Anyway, here are the production pieces. The picture looks a little blue, and over exposed. Everything looks much better in person.
Smoke is the knob. The top and right button are blue. The left button is the current green and the bottom button is amber. Enjoy!

Stu

Posted by: oliver

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 16/02/2004 20:47

excellent! where is the order page?

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 16/02/2004 21:02

We'll take orders via e-mail starting on Friday. The website will take a while as we'll have to take lots of pretty pictures.

Stu

Posted by: russmeister

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 16/02/2004 21:03

How much are we talking? Slap me if I've missed that somewhere.

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 16/02/2004 22:41

Around $40/set.

Stu

Posted by: Neutrino

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 16/02/2004 22:59

I think the green looks great as is! Very Nice!

Posted by: JrFaust

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 17/02/2004 11:25

WOOT, can't wait to see my precious with blue and red buttons.
Me too I want some me too me too.

Posting a me too like some brain-dead AOLer...

Posted by: foxtrot_xray

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 17/02/2004 12:39

Hmm.. anyone recommend some kinda diffuser for the buttons? I LOVE the blue, will probably order a FEW sets, but to go with my Mini's Interior, I need the light a little more diffused.. (Mind you, not that I'm COMPLAINING... I'll order them ANYWAYS..)

Me.

Posted by: andym

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 17/02/2004 14:07

Nice work stu! What are the backs of the buttons like? I snagged a set of brian buttons at the amersfoort meet and I find I have to be careful not to push them too hard. The buttons push the leds into the switch leaving it stuck on. I then have to remove the facia and give the led a wiggle to free it off the switch.

Posted by: Memil

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 17/02/2004 14:39

Looks great!!

Now I only have to get the "Empeg Illumination Kit"....
*5 min later*
Done.... :-)
Now, Red or blue, red or blue... Hrm... :-)

/Fredrik

Posted by: Memil

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 17/02/2004 15:30

Damn... I should have bought it from you also, didnt realize that you sold the ledkit also.
I could have saved little from the shipping costs.. :-(
Well well...

/Fredrik

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 17/02/2004 16:17

Thanks guys. I believe there's a little more clearance back there than what Brian's have (at least the set we have). I don't think it will be a problem with our buttons.

Stu

Posted by: mlord

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 17/02/2004 17:14

I have not had this problem with any of the multitudes of Brian-Button installs. Perhaps the LEDs are not installed exactly right?

Cheers

Posted by: genixia

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 17/02/2004 17:44

I think it was an issue with early buttons that Brian soon corrected.

Posted by: loren

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 17/02/2004 18:46

Yeah, i got one of Brian's first sets, and i had to drill out the backs of the buttons a bit to make them work. But he corrected this with later sets.

Posted by: tfabris

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 17/02/2004 18:48

Another option is to dremel down the tops of the LEDs. There is a lot of curved plastic at the tops of the LEDs that isn't necessary. I just ground the tops off of my LEDs. Mostly for the additional diffusion, but it also helped buttons fit a touch better.

Posted by: FireFox31

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 17/02/2004 23:20

Very nice. My player is already enroute to Stu to get the glow, so I'm psyched!

I wonder about the green (as I have, annoyingly, all along). Stu, could you take a pic of my player with the current green buttons on it (when you finish the light install, of course)? Then, maybe take a pic of it with the new green buttons, if you have them on hand?

I ask because if the "old" greens seem to match better, I'd offer to buy the old set from you. And if the "new" greens seem better, I'd probably snatch up two sets!

If I'm way overstepping my bounds with these requests / questions, I'm sorry. Just slap me (but be nice to my empeg). Thanks again

Posted by: genixia

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 17/02/2004 23:24

Just slap me (but be nice to my empeg)

LOL. That's classic..

Posted by: frog51

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 18/02/2004 05:09

I can't wait for the buttons - just did the button and knob LED install on Monday evening. Top kit, nice and easy to do...well, once I had adjusted my eyes to see the exceedingly teeny components

I did come out of it with a slightly sore neck, but it was well worth it.

Now I just need buttons, so I'm there as soon as payday comes around!

Posted by: mlord

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 18/02/2004 08:32

I suppose it's a bit late for this reminder, but the colour that matters, is the matching between the buttons and lens when BOTH are installed and illuminated. Not when the lens is viewed separately.. the lens colour "changes" on the player because the player does not emit white light.

Cheers

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 19/02/2004 08:34

Fully aware of that. We don't have the lenses here for photography, so it's rather moot. The blue is the same as Brian's blue as is the red and I believe the amber as well.

Stu

Posted by: crazymelki

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 19/02/2004 09:10

Hello Stu,

I must have a set of the red buttons. :-)

bye

Posted by: srhodes

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 21/02/2004 02:55

In reply to:
We'll take orders via e-mail starting on Friday

So, I can't help noticing that it is now Saturday (at least on this side of the pond). Are you ready for the deluge of orders? Would I be able to add an IDE cable to my order as well? Can I, huh? Can I?

Posted by: snoopstah

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 21/02/2004 06:41

Me too! Me too!!

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 21/02/2004 11:39

The first order has not arrived yet; it's late. Once it's here, we still need to take pictures before we'll sell it on the site. This all takes time. But, sure you can add an IDE cable to your order.

For anyone that wants to reserve a set of buttons and knobs, please e-mail "buttons.at.eutronix.com" with the model of Empeg you have and the color set you desire. We ordered 10 blue, 10 red, 5 amber, and 5 smoke. Green is still being tweaked.

Stu

Posted by: Major_Sarcasm

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 21/02/2004 19:34

YHM!

Posted by: srhodes

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 22/02/2004 04:09

Then my mail is on it's way. Apolgies for my eagerness but I'm away on a course next week and didn't want to miss out on the first batch.

Posted by: jaypeeq

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 22/02/2004 04:22

I want green

Posted by: Major_Sarcasm

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 22/02/2004 06:35

Woohoo, I've finally got round to ordering my light kit too.

/me can't wait...

Posted by: mvigneau

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 23/02/2004 09:11

YHM.

THANKS!!!

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 23/02/2004 17:14

Thank you everyone for your requests. The price is now finalized at $39.99 US.

I neglected to mention that the first batch is only for MK2As. Sorry for those it left out. I expect this batch to arrive this week, barring any(more) unforeseen disasters.

Stu

Posted by: tfabris

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 23/02/2004 17:17

I neglected to mention that the first batch is only for MK2As.
You could also offer a service to swap out the Mk2 rotary encoder for the Mk2a rotary encoder, so that folks with the Mk2s could get a quadruple-whammy of an upgrade: Light kit, clear buttons, new (not worn-out) encoder, and new (quieter click) type of encoder...

Posted by: Major_Sarcasm

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 23/02/2004 17:31

Stu, any ideas when you'll have an order page on your site for these buttons?

/me wants to get his order in asap...

(or are we gonna do the ordering via this medium?)

Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 23/02/2004 18:25

Now that's marketing!

Posted by: FireFox31

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 23/02/2004 23:57

Might as well bundle in a drive upgrade, digital out add on, fan upgrade, new set 'a drive sled screws, and a full exterior and interior detailing.

Hm, still tweaking the green, so maybe I should order a smoke while I'm waiting.

But on Mark's lense/button matching comment: Which lenses are these buttons being matched to? Original empeg, Darkstorm, or Filener? Or maybe the three are all similar enough so it will just work.

I won't be pickey. My dashboard, empeg, Alpine CD lights don't match perfectly, so oh well. Thanks again, can't wait for the glow.

Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 24/02/2004 06:06

I would guess they are being matched to the original empeg lenses. But even then, you still have the cyan color of the VFD to deal with. The LEDs are white. You will almost always have a color difference between the buttons and VFD.

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 25/02/2004 09:16

In reply to:
You could also offer a service to swap out the Mk2 rotary encoder for the Mk2a rotary encoder, so that folks with the Mk2s could get a quadruple-whammy of an upgrade: Light kit, clear buttons, new (not worn-out) encoder, and new (quieter click) type of encoder.

Thanks for the plug! We are unofficially replacing encoders. We've done one and it works fine, but we'd very much like to get a hold of the OEM model Alps encoder with .5mm of travel rather than the 1.5mm we have now, but Alps seems to deem the American market suited only for the 1.5mm ones. Anyway, we're still looking.

Stu

Posted by: snoopstah

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 28/02/2004 10:33

Any news on these? I desperately need a new IDE cable, but want to combine the two to save shipping

Posted by: Major_Sarcasm

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 04/03/2004 14:12

Well, my lighting kit is installed, all I need is some transparent buttons!

Any idea of an ETA?

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 04/03/2004 19:25

Supposedly they are arriving via overnight tomorrow.

Stu

Posted by: FireFox31

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 04/03/2004 20:41

I second that. Just got my lit-button-installed empeg back from Stu. Lookin' good! (obligatory lit buttons pic)

Can;t wait to get some of the colored ones!

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 06/03/2004 07:52

Thanks! The buttons (all 30 sets) arrived yesterday. We'll be contacting those that expressed interest shortly.

Stu

Posted by: crazymelki

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 06/03/2004 08:06

Cool! I am already checking my eMail in a second interval

bye

Posted by: FireFox31

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 07/03/2004 13:23

Awesome, I'll switch from checking the Eutronix site twice daily to checking my e-mail. Still watching for a green set... and a picture of the smoke because those might work well too. You know where to get me at Juno. Thanks.

Posted by: _hardcore_

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 08/03/2004 01:26

Can you disclose when you plan on having buttonsets available for the MK2 ?

Cheers

Kaare

Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 08/03/2004 06:13

This one was my fault. I had sent sample buttons from my spare bits bin to have castings made. Unfortunately, I had sold my Mark2 long ago, so I only had one Mark2 knob to send. Because my Mark2 was an older variety, it had the old pre-fix knob on it. That's why I had a spare knob - I put the knob fix in place, and this was left over. The cast prototypes all slipped as badly or worse than the original.

Stu now has a correct (fixed) Mark2 knob to make a casting from, but it caused a bit of a delay.

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 08/03/2004 08:38

Wouldn't you know it? Something was done rather poorly in the first run of parts and now it looks like all 150 pieces will have to be redone. The finish came out chalky and easy to scratch, which is not at all like the samples.

No it's not your fault that there aren't MK2 knobs Paul! The correct MK2 mold was made at the time the order was placed for the MK2A parts, but the decision was made (by me) to make only a small simple run with only MK2a parts in case a problem like this arose. We're going to raise hell with the supplier today, so hopefully this can be corrected in a timely fashion.

Stu

Posted by: _hardcore_

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 08/03/2004 10:37

Wouldn't you know it? Something was done rather poorly in the first run of parts and now it looks like all 150 pieces will have to be redone. The finish came out chalky and easy to scratch, which is not at all like the samples.

No it's not your fault that there aren't MK2 knobs Paul! The correct MK2 mold was made at the time the order was placed for the MK2A parts, but the decision was made (by me) to make only a small simple run with only MK2a parts in case a problem like this arose. We're going to raise hell with the supplier today, so hopefully this can be corrected in a timely fashion.

Ahh.. Sorry to hear about your never ending trouble with the caster. I was just being curious about the timeframe for the mk2, but you've more or less answered my question "it's coming!" which is good enough for me!

Cheers

Kaare

Posted by: CHiP

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 09/03/2004 16:23

The smoked knob looks like it has a lot of blue in it! .. but it still looks awesome!

Posted by: leftyfb

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 09/03/2004 23:00

Not sure how to request them, but I just installed my LED kit tonight, it looks awsome and in dire need of the translucent buttons. Depending on price, I might want to order both blue and smoked. For now I just dremeled small holes into the original buttons like I saw done in a post a while ago.

BTW, I received my LED kit quickly. The kit was a bit of a challenge but went off without a hitch. Keep up the good work

Posted by: tms13

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 10/03/2004 08:00

In reply to:
We'll be contacting those that expressed interest shortly.

How long should we expect to wait to hear from you? (Slightly concerned an email may have gone astray...)

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 10/03/2004 15:11

Perhaps I should have expounded a bit. We ran down the list until we ran out of the first of the colors, found out they weren't up to spec and stopped emailing for that reason.

More to come.

Stu

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 10/03/2004 21:51

Digging through each of the 150 pieces, it seems it was not a total loss. There are 7 red sets, and a couple amber (a little on the red side for some reason) that I feel comfortable selling. We'll be going through the list again and offering these until they're gone.

Stu

Posted by: rtundo

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 12/03/2004 06:06

and a couple amber (a little on the red side for some reason)

Does that mean they are more of an orange color then? If so I'd be interested in a set.

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 12/03/2004 11:06

Yes, more orange. I'll see if we have any left to sell. Most sets had a piece or two I would classify as a second and we don't want to sell those.

Stu

Posted by: rtundo

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 13/03/2004 06:39

Thanks Stu.

Posted by: oliver

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 17/03/2004 22:10

I received my order of buttons today, and they are pretty sweet. I took maybe 30 pictures of them. Both day and night shots too.
Awesome job, I can't wait to get some more in a couple of months, hopefully some more colors

Posted by: tfabris

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 18/03/2004 11:43

Stu, those pictures from Oliver look really good, let me know when you're officially in the Button Business so I can change the "Buttons" link at the top of the page to point to Eutronix.

Posted by: FireFox31

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 18/03/2004 23:36

Sweeeeeeet, you got three sets? Nice photos.

Stu, if you're still "contacting interested parties via e-mail" about the buttons, I am interested in a smoke set. But, you know I'm SOOOOO interested in the green set!! Mmmmm, green.

Ok, I'll stop begging and go back to checking this thread, my e-mail, and the Eutronix site every day waiting for the release of the buttons!

Posted by: speedy67

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 19/03/2004 08:37

Is it only on the photos or do the red ones really come out that pink when lit?

Waiting for amber and vfd-with-smoke-lens-matching cyan...
Keep on goin, Stu. They're great.

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 19/03/2004 09:06

Thanks everybody! When we can get a steady flow of these going I'll let everybody know. The red is a very deep red when lit, but like any intense light, will appear whitish when viewed directly. It is less white when set at a lower level. The canera also had some effect on the pink look too I think.

Stu

Posted by: ctcsoft

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 19/03/2004 13:44

when you get a blue set available for sale please PM me.

Maybe a site like M. Lords docking site could be set up?

thx.

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 19/03/2004 15:15

In reply to:
Maybe a site like M. Lords docking site could be set up?

We have a website, but I don't want to put them up there until we have a steady supply to sell.

Stu

Posted by: CHiP

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 19/03/2004 21:48

where are you in your list of interested parties that signed up early... or rather, where would i be in that list? thanks! looking forward to new buttons.

Posted by: sn00p

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 27/03/2004 10:58

Any update on the issues that you had with the first run on buttons?

Posted by: _hardcore_

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 19/04/2004 15:10

Any update on the issues that you had with the first run on buttons?

*bump*

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 19/04/2004 16:57

He says he was going to ship the replacements for the first batch last Friday April 16th.

Stu

Posted by: FireFox31

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 21/04/2004 23:25

::shudders:: Haha, here I'd been quietly telling myself three times a week:
"Don't worry, Stu is just seriously stocking up on buttons before the release; hoarding enough to survive the initial blitz and still sustain for a while. Why, I bet he's got 100 sets by now. Nothing to worry about. Now, don't check the BBS for three more days and maybe he'll have released them."

Haha, I know I'm causing the watched pot to not boil, but if I avoid the BBS and miss the announcement, I just *know* they'll be sold out by the time I find they were released. ::shudders:: See you in 3 days, and then 3 days after that, and again 3 more days, ad nauseum.

Posted by: maczrool

Re: Production Knobs and Buttons - 22/04/2004 08:59

Are you on our mailing list? Whenever we have the kits, those on the list will be notified= no worries about missing them!

Stu