HDD Based Portable MP3 Player

Posted by: dionysus

HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 10/11/2000 10:16

Hey,

I'm tempted to pickup the creative jukebox, but was wondering if Empeg/Rio might have something brewing in the months ahead? The last thing I want is to pick one up and for Empeg to announce something 2 months later...
-mark
ps - if not, which one would everyone recommend, the compaq solution, creative labs solution, or Neo solution?

MK2: 36gb
Tivo: 90gb
CPU: 120gb
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Posted by: Terminator

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 10/11/2000 10:24

I read somewhere that the creative one doesnt sound all that good and that there are some problems with it. The creative thing was discussed somewhere else on the board - maybe in the review section.

Sean

Empeg 12 gig green 080000078
Posted by: loren

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 10/11/2000 10:44

Heya,

Not trying to be smart ass or anything of the sort, but i'm genuinly curious why you'd want an HDD player AND an empeg. =] Is there a good reason i can't hink of?


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Posted by: tfabris

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 10/11/2000 11:03

Not trying to be smart ass or anything of the sort, but i'm genuinly curious why you'd want an HDD player AND an empeg.

Hey, this is Dionysus we're talking about. If he wants a portable, he's got very good reasons for it. I'd think the Empeg isn't easy to strap to your belt and take for a walk in the park running on battery power. Some people actually spend time outdoors (can't imagine why, though).

Now that I think about it, Di does a lot of flying. A portable would be a good thing to have on a flight from California to Florida and back.

And anyway, I'm sure Dionysus read the other threads on the Creative Labs product and the other products. He's asking for comparative opinions from folks who have tried these products.

Oh, and just possibly, he's fishing for hints from Hugo. So, Hugo, gonna take the bait?

(My personal opinion is that one of the reasons S3 bought Empeg is so they could move into that market, and the next thing we'll see coming out of S3 will be a hard-disk portable running Empeg's software.)

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Tony Fabris
Posted by: Dearing

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 10/11/2000 11:06

i'm genuinly curious why you'd want an HDD player AND an empeg.

Mostly portability, I think. I'd like to have a HDD-based player with at least some of the features of the empeg-car that I could easily take on an airplane, in a friends car, on a camping trip, or anywhere else I want music but not to be worried about damaging my ~1K car stereo, with or without it's cool carrying case.

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"WAY too happy about having #99."
Posted by: loren

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 10/11/2000 11:08

I think the reason i asked is because i want one, but i'm just searching for a legitimate justification....


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Posted by: Dearing

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 10/11/2000 11:08

D'OH!

_~= Dearing =~_
"WAY too happy about having #99."
Posted by: rob

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 10/11/2000 11:17

It is well known that SONICblue have big plans for the Rio range (home network and automotive products being two such additions), however there's not a chance that we can talk about forthcoming products before their official announcement.

The same would have been true when we were independent - it's best not to hand such information to your competitors unless you can gain a commercial advantage in doing so.

Rob


Posted by: dionysus

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 10/11/2000 12:00

In reply to:

Not trying to be smart ass or anything of the sort, but i'm genuinly curious why you'd want an HDD player AND an empeg. =] Is there a good reason i can't hink of?


Yeah -public transport and commuting w/ others not wanting to carry the empeg:)
-mark

MK2: 36gb
Tivo: 90gb
CPU: 120gb
...I think drive manufacturers love me!

Posted by: dionysus

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 10/11/2000 12:02

In reply to:

Mostly portability, I think. I'd like to have a HDD-based player with at least some of the features of the empeg-car that I could easily take on an airplane, in a friends car, on a camping trip, or anywhere else I want music but not to be worried about damaging my ~1K car stereo, with or without it's cool carrying case.


Right - also I'm expecting quite a bit of airplane travel in my new job (in the San Fran area, btw) - Empeg's not really that nice to carry as a carry-on:)
-mark

MK2: 36gb
Tivo: 90gb
CPU: 120gb
...I think drive manufacturers love me!

Posted by: jfranke

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 10/11/2000 12:23

I have the PJB100 with a 20 GB drive.

I highly recommend it.
I love it.
Its pricy though.

Check my forum at http://www.e-groups.com/list/pjb100 if you are interested what others have to say about it. Developers/rsellers attend that list as well. It became the 'unoffical' PJB forum in the end. Like this board is for the EMPEG.

j.

Posted by: mardibloke

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 11/11/2000 05:40

How about the NEO25 ? I am also trying to justify the expense - how about I upgrade the drive in my empeg, then I suddenly have a spare 2.5" drive that I could put in a Neo25 that I buy without a HD ( 279usd ).

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Rod, UK Mk2 18gig Red S/No.341
Posted by: jfranke

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 11/11/2000 08:10

If the battery life is OK for you thats probably a good choice. Check the above forum for discussions about the neo as well as the mp3.com hardware board.

j.

Posted by: silvercas

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 11/11/2000 09:53

doesnt the pjb only come with a 6gb. where are the directions for doing the hard drive?

Alan

Posted by: jfranke

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 12/11/2000 14:52

Check the above forum, there are detailed instructions. It's just a drive change, for a particular Toshiba model. There will a an 'official' 20GB PJB avail end of this year.

j.

Posted by: mcgrant

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 13/11/2000 14:36

Get a PJB100, do the 20GB upgrade (or wait for the 20GB version), and you will be happy. I have one (and an empeg) and I'm quite pleased with it.


Michael Grant
12GB Green
080000266
Posted by: adavidw

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 15/11/2000 03:14

In reply to:

There will a an 'official' 20GB PJB avail end of this year.


Says who? I admit I don't follow the egroups forum religiously, but last time I checked, there was no confirmation that there would be an official one.

-Aaron

Posted by: jfranke

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 15/11/2000 12:11

ya yu right that wasnt official just rumors. but I dont see a reason why not. j.

Posted by: drakino

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 15/11/2000 23:26

So, now that the Rio BoomBox is shown in the latest Wired magazine, can you say if it's built off empeg technology?

(For those without access to the magazine, the newest issue shows the player as a $300 8gb player that looks like a foldable boombox that can be powered by a few D batteries for 10 hours. Not much more then that, and nothing on the Rio page.)

Posted by: rob

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 16/11/2000 04:46

This product hasn't yet been officially launched, so I think we'll have to wait for a detailed announcement before discussing any specifications.

Rob


Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 16/11/2000 08:39

Greetings!

Of course, the very way you say that you cannot discuss specifications implies a lot... Why else would empeg be familiar enough with the specs of the box to wait for a formal announcement?

Paul G.
SN# 090000587 (40GB Green)
Posted by: rob

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 16/11/2000 08:51

We're familiar with pretty much everything forthcoming in the Rio range - whether or not we are developing it.

Either way, I think Rio kit has always been good so even products that were developed by other teams should be worth buying

Rob


Posted by: tfabris

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 16/11/2000 08:54

Heh, cool.

I expected the next thing out of the gate to be a walkman-style unit similar to the PJB100. A D-cell-powered boom box is a great twist. Bravo.

What I want to know is, if it's not officially launched yet, how Wired knows about it and we don't?

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Tony Fabris
Posted by: rob

Re: HDD Based Portable MP3 Player - 16/11/2000 09:00

> What I want to know is, if it's not officially launched yet, how Wired knows about it and we don't?

Ken (CEO) has a way of dropping teasers into keynotes, investor reports and other communications.

You see, SONICblue have a lot in common with empeg :-)

Rob