Battlefield 1942

Posted by: loren

Battlefield 1942 - 24/08/2002 23:27

DOWNLOAD IT.

Alrighty folks... if you have ever played First Person Shooters and you haven't played this one... you have no clue what you are missing. Counter-Strike has been the game of choice at work (LucasArts) afterhours for 3 YEARS... and we never found anything good enough to replace it. But the second i played this, i knew i'd probably never touch CS again. It's unfreakinbelievably good. We've been playing it on the network every free second.

There's been multiple threads in our game theory board at work about why it's so great... and one of the resounding answers is the shear cinematic beauty of this game. Everytime you play you see something straight out of a movie. That and the fact that you can drive tanks, pilot planes, captain a battleship or aircraft carrier, drive jeeps, man coastal defense guns, etc etc... all within one game, and within minutes if you like.

They've nailed the consequence of dying aspect as well. The fact that you had to wait an entire round if you died in CS held a lot of people back, and the insta-spawn of quake (while kick ass) sorta took the realism out of it. I'm not gonna explain how it works... you just all have to check it out. Get the multiplayer demo and play Wake Island... you won't believe you eyes i promise ya!!! I could go on... but i'll spare ya the rant.

(sorry... it's just been a while since a game got me excited!)
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 24/08/2002 23:39

I'm one of the people who disliked counterstrike, partially because of the die-then-wait problem. So I'm definitely going to check this out on your recommendation.
Posted by: loren

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 25/08/2002 02:56

It's 3 am... i started playing directly after posting that... and haven't stopped since. That was the longest campaign i ever played in that game... WOW. I was shelling the hell out of the island with the battleship... sooo much fun!!!
Posted by: jbauer

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 25/08/2002 13:40

Are you talking about downloading the demo or the whole game? I've been trying to download the demo with no luck so far...

It just gives me a blank page at this url:

http://www.ea.com/eagames/official/battlefield1942/gamedemo.jsp?state=111

- Jon
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 25/08/2002 14:02

I started at the Bluesnews.com mirror, got that going in GetRight, then followed Blue's links to the other mirrors, brought up the Mirror Manager pasted the other links into it and did the GetRight segmented downloading so it was grabbing it from multiple sites at the same time. Despite my T-1 speed on this wireless connection, it still took several hours over last night and today to get it downloaded.

I just installed it and I can't connect to any servers. It starts to connect, but then it crashes and drops back to the desktop half way through "loading wake island". The installation went fine, and since that install goes through at least two stages worth of unzipping, I know there was nothing wrong with the file I downloaded. It all works right up until it's supposed to start the map. Then click, my screen goes back to the desktop (at a lower rez with all my icons messed up, as usual, thanks DirectX).
Posted by: ricin

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 25/08/2002 14:51

Most of the mirrors were getting hammered last night. Although, after about 4-5 tries, I finally got it to start and got 155k/s solid until it finished, for both the multi-player and single-player demos. I've played both a little here and there and they seem to work fine. As far as I can tell, the game seems pretty well thought out, although I haven't really played enough to justify an opinion either way.
Posted by: Tim

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 25/08/2002 14:52

That looks a lot like that game WWII Online I think it was called. The only problem with that game was its requirements blew my computer out of the water...
Posted by: davec

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 06:58

I was able to DL it in less than a 1/2 hour over my DSL from the 3D gamers server Sunday afternoon. I spent a good 6 hours after that playing Wake Island. I wish I'd have seen this Friday instead of Sunday as I spent most of the weekend playing Medal of Honor Allied Assault... Battelfield 1942 blows MoHAA away... Thanks for the heads up!!!
Posted by: loren

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 11:57

Tony, make sure you have the latest drivers for everything. I had to update directx, my video card driver, and the sound card driver on my old machine before it would work.

It's definitely worth the trouble. Trust me. It does take a pretty beefy machine though. oh, and some people here at work reported that they had to install the gamespy app that comes with it to get it to work.
Posted by: loren

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 11:58

amazing isn't it?! It's the most addicting game i've played in recent memory.
Posted by: davec

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 12:03

amazing isn't it?! It's the most addicting game i've played in recent memory.

I totally agree. MoHAA was pretty damn cool, but this takes the cake. If the rest of the maps are like the Wake Island demo, it'll be awesome.
I'm still trying to get the flying down. Every so often I get an aborted takeoff but now I'm working on accuracy with the bombs. I cannot wait until the full release... Hopefully it really will be Sept. 02...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 12:35

Well after just playing 8 hours of straight CS I'm definitely gonna download this. Thanks for the link.

EDIT: did you ever find anything new on your stolen player?
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 12:36

Tony, make sure you have the latest drivers for everything. I had to update directx, my video card driver, and the sound card driver on my old machine before it would work.

I've got the latest DirectX, but I will try grabbing more recent video drivers from Nvidia. I've got a 64mb GeForce2 GTS on a 650mhz PC, that should be beefy enough, right?
Posted by: loren

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 15:26

davec: THE trick to flying... use a joystick... or better yet... what i'm doing. I got one of those sub $10 Playstation controller to USB adaptors and am using the analog sticks on the PS controller to fly. It's sooooo much easier and accurate. On top of that... always hit F10 once you hop in the plane to get the rear vew. MUCH easier to fly.

d33zy: Nothing new.

Tony: Yeap, that's the card i have at home and it runs smooth. Just make sure you get the latest drivers.
Posted by: loren

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 15:30

oh yeah. Here's a little hints and tips doc someone passed around here at work:

Tips and Strategies for Winning Battlefield 1942

Land Vehicles
When driving the tank, take out foot soldiers with your co-axial machine gun by clicking on your right mouse button. This allows you to fire the machine gun without exposing yourself to return fire.

Damage takes armor and angle into account, so shoot tanks from the sides or behind at a perpendicular (90 degree) angle to maximize inflicted damage. But remember, shooting at the frontal armor will only cause minimum damage.

Artillery can fire further than any other vehicle. Use the increased range to disrupt enemy movement from safe distances and use snipers to scout enemy units.

Remember to use [C] or [F] keys to change views while in vehicles. Use them to occasionally look behind you when in vehicles, especially tanks. Tanks can be destroyed with one good shot from the rear.

The scout car can be used as a bomb if driven correctly. Just aim it at a tank or other target and hit the accelerator. Don’t forget to jump out before you hit. You can also run over infantry if you’re going fast enough.

The APC will heal and resupply you if you sit in the back.

Be careful driving over rough terrain, if you’re going too fast you can damage your vehicle.

You can drive over landmines if you go slow enough. Of course you’re a sitting duck while you navigate this way.

Air Vehicles
Zoom and Scoop -- This maneuver is for when you're in a dive-bomber and have an empty backseat. Fly very, very close to a ground-based teammate. Have your teammate hold down the enter vehicle key [E]. If your teammate is close enough, they will pop into the rear seat of the bomber for a quick getaway. This is really useful in CAPTURE THE FLAG games

Drop torpedoes from planes at a low altitude or they might go under the ship you are targeting.

Use the [F9] key to toggle your plane's HUD (heads-up display) on/off. You can fly planes with arrow keys (as default) instead of mouse.

If your plane is about to crash, hit [E] to eject and [9] to open your parachute.

Planes are probably the deadliest vehicles in the game. They can blow up tanks with one well-placed bomb. Create your own multiplayer game and practice bombing vehicles. A good bomber is a valuable asset to any team. Joysticks help A LOT when flying, try binding your yaw and throttle to the keyboard, but leave the roll and pitch to the joystick. Remember to stay away from the AA guns!

You can resupply your planes by flying slow and low over airfield/carrier ammo sources. You’ll know you’re near one if the ammo icon appears on your screen.

Airplanes are weakest in the engines... shoot for those in dogfights. Just a few well-placed shots can turn your opponent into scrap metal.

Watch for AA (anti-aircraft) and machineguns... they can turn your plane into swiss cheese. To avoid these, approach them from below their horizon and drop a bomb on them as a wake-up call.

The B-17 is as slow as a pig... but it can lay a devastating carpet of bombs on the ground. With two gunners to keep fighters off of you, this is a potent weapon. Your gunners can also act as paratroopers.

Infantry
Short bursts produce higher accuracy than continuously holding the FIRE key. Firing while standing still, crouching, or prone also helps with accuracy.

Pay attention to uniforms. When you first spawn, look at your teammates' colors. Usually one team's clothes are darker than the other. Sometimes the player tags don’t show up quickly, so pay attention. DON'T KILL YOUR TEAMMATES!

When using the sniper rifle, hold the FIRE button down after you shoot to stay in zoom mode. This will allow you to see how your shot fell. When you release the FIRE button you will un-zoom and reload.

The scout can place cameras with the binoculars fire and the artillery pieces and ships can cycle through those cameras with [ALT] + FIRE.

Right mouse click when you are on foot for a slightly magnified view.

Shots are not instantaneous; depending on the distance you may need to aim in front of a moving target. Experiment to find the correct adjustment for all your weapons.

You can throw grenades a short distance with [ALT] + FIRE.

Choose your kit wisely. Just because you like sniping doesn't mean your team can survive without a medic.

Increase your grenade's distance by jumping when throwing. You can throw a grenade about a block and a half by doing this.

Learn to use the environment as cover, hide behind trees/rocks/buildings and don’t shoot until you see the whites of their eyes (you won’t give away your position, and you’ll have a better chance of getting an easy kill).

Tanks are easily outflanked by fast moving foot soldiers. Always attack tanks from the rear. Throwing grenades beneath the tank is also effective.

Land Mines are effective for closing off areas to tank and vehicle movement. Remember to tell your teammates where you place them.

Watch your ammo and health: Grenades may be great for killing enemy soldiers, but unless you're an anti-tank or engineer soldier, they're your only weapons against enemy tanks. Remember to reload whenever you see an ammo box and heal whenever you see a medical locker or APC.

Teamwork is your key to winning and getting a good score: Try working as an anti-tank soldier or engineer with a friendly tank. As he distracts them in the tank, you can get around them for the killer rear shot or plant some dynamite. Afterwards, you can repair your ally. If quick travel is necessary, he can give you a ride. Type a quick message about strategy, and don't assume he heard it unless he responds.

In concentrated street battles often reloading is too slow. Try switching kits [G] with the guy you just killed!

As a medic you can also heal yourself.

When in a firefight from a distance, STAY LOW. Go prone or keep moving.

Naval Units
You cannot command enemy ships. But you can steal the airplanes off of their carrier.

Submarines go slower under the surface so drive long distances at surface level and submerge when you spot a target.

The destroyer is your only means of sinking a submerged submarine... keep them near high-priority targets to sniff out those sneaky submariners.

Watch for the submarine’s periscope. Use radio commands to notify your team when you’ve seen it. That will give everyone a general idea of where it’s located.

The pilot of the destroyer can drop depth charges with ALT+Fire. The gunner in the rear turret can use the guns in indirect fire mode if a sniper calls for artillery.

Watch for the shallow water. The bottom will rise abruptly as you approach dry land. Try to avoid beaching your ships.

The battleship can use its guns in indirect fire mode if a sniper calls for artillery.

Ships can take a lot of pounding... but just a few torpedoes will sink you. Watch out for submarine and torpedo bombers.

All ships except the submarine have landing craft attached to them. These can be used to make landing assaults.

The ramp on the landing craft is lowered/raised using the up/down arrow keys.

Miscellaneous
Axis nametags are ALWAYS red and Allies are ALWAYS blue. Remember that.

You will see teammates in your minimap as the color of your current team: BLUE for Ally and RED if you’re Axis.

Strategy. Don't just run, blaze away, and die. This isn't your standard first-person shooter, and that will get you killed. Think, aim, move, fall back, repair, get healed, and backup your teammates.

Man the shore batteries to keep the ships at bay.

Use 16-bit color for better framerates.

Experiment with your sound settings for a better framerate. Also see if you can use hardware acceleration.

Don't win the fight but loose the battle. Remember to focus on control points in Conquest.

Memorize and use the radio commands.

The direct route to an objective is rarely the safest; use alternate routes to achieve goals. Be sure to watch the spawn interface when you are dead, be prepared to click on a new spawn point if yours is lost, because you don't want to wait for another spawn cycle.

Choose your spawn points wisely. Examine your map before spawning, look for vehicles, and look for places that may be spawn-camped by the enemy. Do you want to defend or attack? Where is the fighting concentrated? Do you want to join the main battle or execute a backdoor strategy of your own?

Learn how to use all the weapons at your disposal effectively. Each hand weapon and vehicle has strengths and weaknesses.

Try your best to respond to your teammates' radio commands. If you're an anti-tank soldier and you hear a request for anti-tank support, look at your minimap and see who's talking -- they’ll flash yellow.

If in a conquest game and the spawn point aren't changing flags, look around for the enemy who might be nearby preventing it.

Keep your eyes open. Snipers, landmines, expacks, and artillery are silent killers. ALWAYS look out for these.

Vary your class to fit the situation. If the enemy is not using tanks, don't play an anti-tank all the time. If your team is mostly on foot, be a medic and heal them. If your team is in tanks, be an engineer and fix them. Supporters are every bit as important as attackers and defenders.

If you catch an enemy from behind at a distance, don't shoot right away -- you may miss and alert him to your presence. Close in a bit and make it a sure thing.

Empty vehicles that are nearby will appear on your minimap as gray icons. If one of these disappears abruptly, you know an enemy has jumped into it
Posted by: BAKup

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 17:03

PSA for those who are playing Battlefield 1942:

The [9] key is the default parachute key.

Or the enemy team will be singing "It's raining men"

I repeat, the [9] key is the default parachute key.

This was a message from the Foundation for Cleaner Beaches.


Posted by: visuvius

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 18:30

Damn Loren, that game is great. It's a bit tought, but thats a good thing.

I have been having one problem though. After a game is over, BF1942 will automatically exit and go to Windows, right after it shows the final score and whatnot. Anyone else have this problem?

Other than that, man, can't wait till it comes out.
Posted by: TheRhino

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 18:36

amazing isn't it?! It's the most addicting game i've played in recent memory.

Yes, that is until you guys deliver Star Wars Galaxies. Now, that's gonna be sweet. Anyway, I downloaded the single player the other day, and it kept on crashing. I'll try the multiplayer and see what happens. I've been having fun with Medal Of Honor, as well as Ghost Recon
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 18:44

Thanks, Loren. The newest Nvidia drivers did the trick.

However they seem to screw up the refresh rate with my monitor. I can't seem to set it to a non-flickery refresh rate, it seems to default to 60 hz or something no matter what I pick in the control panel. This includes the windows desktop as well as in the game itself.
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 18:45

Yes, that is until you guys deliver Star Wars Galaxies.

If you were talking to Loren, I didn't think LucasArts was doing "Galaxies". I thought that was... lemme think... Verant?
Posted by: TheRhino

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 20:02

If you were talking to Loren, I didn't think LucasArts was doing "Galaxies". I thought that was... lemme think... Verant?

True, but LucasArts must have something to do with it. I believe all Star Wars games go through them. I'm wondering how "Galaxies" will pan out on Xbox and PS2 online. That will be interesting...
Posted by: BartDG

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 21:14

However they seem to screw up the refresh rate with my monitor. I can't seem to set it to a non-flickery refresh rate, it seems to default to 60 hz or something no matter what I pick in the control panel. This includes the windows desktop as well as in the game itself.

This is "normal" for any quake3 engine based game. For some reason the Nvidia drivers and win 2000 don't get along, so the monitor jumps back to 60Hz.

To solve this I use a small util called Refreshlock. Pretty easy to work with and it does the trick.

One caveat : it also permits you to push your video signal way beyond your monitor spec. Beware of this.
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 22:15

Thanks, I'll give refreshlock a shot, but remember that I'm talking about the Windows Desktop here, not the game.
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 22:17

True, but LucasArts must have something to do with it. I believe all Star Wars games go through them.

In this case, I believe LucasArts is simply acting as the publisher and perhaps being consulted on the intellectual property and trademarks. I'm sure Loren will come correct me.
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 22:35

    ... Refreshlock ...
Ahhh.

Thank you, many times over.
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 22:37

Glad it's working for you. It's not for me. Does a rather nasty thing where it blinks the screen trying to change the refresh rate to what I told it to. After the blink, it discovers the refresh rate is not that rate. So it does it again. And again. And again. Vainly trying to set the refresh rate about twice per second.

Like I said, these new Nvidia drivers have some kind of a problem.
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 26/08/2002 22:51

Just for reference's sake, I'm running a GeForce3 Ti 500 with nVidia driver 6.13.10.2832 (that's what I've had running for a while -- I didn't seem to need to upgrade) and everything seems to be working okay for me after running RefreshLock (except for the fact that I'm running a dual 333, and that's not really fast enough to run the game). Actually, it was fine before, but it went to 60Hz during the game (and all the other games I've run on this machine since reinstalling), which is very annoying.

(Want me to try to cram in a few more parenthetical phrases?)
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 27/08/2002 06:35

Damn, it won't work for me. I installed it, and when I try to open battlefield 1942 the screen goes black like it's about to load then it just closes and makes an audible "bing". No error message or anything. I tried installing it twice, maybe I should try downloading it again?
Posted by: davec

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 27/08/2002 07:28

While y'all are having problems getting it to run, I gotta ask this... Why do these imbiciles in the game insist on shooting me when I get in the airplane just because I got to it first? We're on the same team for crying out loud!!! Spent most of last night fragging the island from the battelship. Sooo much fun!!! BTW I'm running the Radeon 8500 AIW 128M card. Installed first time, runs with no problems and looks great!
Posted by: loren

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 27/08/2002 10:57

d33zy... that's the same thing that was happening to me before i got the new drivers. I also reinstalled and made sure to install the gamespy stuff that comes with it.
Posted by: loren

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 27/08/2002 11:05

Tony... that's really weird. I'm running W2K with the same card and the same drivers and it's working great at home. Odd that.
Posted by: loren

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 27/08/2002 11:09

As for the Galaxies question: We are doing it in conjunction with Sony Online Entertainment... and it's being produced by Haden Blackmen of LucasArts. The Rhino is right... all Star Wars branded games are concieved of and have to go through us... generally with at least the Lead Producer being one of our own... often more people are involved than that and we often provide a lot of art assets. Factor 5 (who did Rogue Leader) is about 500 feet from our office and are tied to our network.. .so a lot was shared for that project.

I've seen some preview stuff... and it does look insane. The shear size of the universe is ridiculous, and the fact that you can have just about any job you can imagine is going to make it insanely open ended. They even showed us how you could decorate your home in the game ala the Sims! Shhhhh...
Posted by: loren

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 27/08/2002 11:45

http://pc.ign.com/articles/368/368840p1.html

check out some of the movies!! You only get to DL 5 unless you have a subscription, so choose wisely. =] There's one that shows the ball turrett gun on a bomber... holy crap. So amazing.
Posted by: svferris

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 27/08/2002 11:53

Speaking of Battlefield 1942 movies, you guys need to check this one out:

Weenie Movie
Posted by: loren

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 27/08/2002 13:28

I still say they should have used some old school Metallica or something for that video. It's head bangin' for christ's sake!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 28/08/2002 00:02

Alright the game is loading now that I've installed DirectX, but now I'm getting the same problem as Tony with the game closing while loading the wake island map. I tried installing the Nvidia driver like Tony but it said I don't have a Nvidia video card, so how can I tell what kind of card I have so I can update the driver? Is there some way on win98 to find out?
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 28/08/2002 03:47

That game has pretty steep requirements for the video card. If you don't know what kind of video card you have (i.e., you didn't buy it yourself), there's a good chance it's not powerful enough to run that game.

When you installed DirectX, it also installed a utility called DXDIAG.EXE which you can run and it will give you the specs of the video card (on the "display" tab).
Posted by: fusto

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 28/08/2002 19:28

On this same subject...
Posted by: BAKup

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 28/08/2002 19:44

Yea, I stole my PSA from that comic

Posted by: BAKup

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 28/08/2002 21:17

Hey, have you picked up SOCOM for the PS2 yet? It's been loads of fun so far. I really like the headset setup they use...You can order your teams around via the headset mic(VR is very good), and all your teammate responses comes through the headset, but the enviroment sounds are through the TV(or stereo) speakers.

Also little trick, you don't *need* the PS2 broadband adapter to play, several of the usb<->ethernet adapters will work with it

Posted by: loren

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 29/08/2002 09:56

Nah, i haven't picked up SOCOM yet. I'm currently in the middle of two games and that one's farther down on my list. Mario Sunshine and Ghost Recon are going right now... and Battlefield 1942 is coming out in a little over a week... so thats definitely next up. I'll check out SOCOM though... I'm sure i can borrow it from someone here at work. I've had a USB -> ethernet adaptor since Tony Hawk 3 came out. =]
Posted by: davec

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 29/08/2002 12:05

Loren I just needed to tell you that you have managed to waste my entire week by informing us of this game. I get home, feed the dogs, then play the damn demo for hours. My TiVo will be full soon because I have forgotten about television... I have never played a demo for so long before.
And I pre-ordered the game so I suppose the rest of the year is shot now...
BTW pre-order from ebgames.com and it's free shipping and a $10 mail-in rebate... Sept 10 they say...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 29/08/2002 14:00

Thanks, Tony. I tried installing an updated driver for my Trident card from their website, but their driver just f'ed up my computer (it kept wanting to go into safe mode or some gay crap), so I reinstalled the previous driver. But at least now I know I need to buy a better video card.
Posted by: jbauer

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 29/08/2002 14:31

Ok, got my new Geforce4 card and am playing the single player demo. Is there a guide or training mission or something? I'm running around not knowing what I should be doing!

Downloading the multiplayer demo now too.

All the games that would just die on my old Voodoo card are now humming along. GTA 3, Crazy Taxi, and of course, the demo of Battlefield 1942...

- Jon
Posted by: loren

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 29/08/2002 17:42

Read the readme that comes with it, then check out the controls in the custom controls area in the game... that'll give you a good idea of what all you can do.

The singleplayer sucks compared to the multiplayer... it hardly shows the potential of the game at all.

we should get an empeggers only server going sometime...
Posted by: visuvius

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 29/08/2002 17:50

now that is a great idea.
Posted by: wfaulk

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 29/08/2002 18:57

I assume you mean that the single-player demo sucks as compared to the multi-player demo. Or does the single-player gameplay suck as compared to multi-player?
Posted by: davec

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 29/08/2002 21:00

The single player demo is rather lame. Not enough action to show what the game can really offer. But I've always found multiplayer games to be more interesting, except for the dickweeds that insist on team killing all the time... That's a good reason for an empeg only server. Then we can complain about the TKers on the board
Posted by: Waterman981

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 29/08/2002 21:17

Its good to see I'm not the only one who has spent all his time in front of his computer playing this game. And it's also nice to see that I'm not the only one who went out and bought a new video card just to play this game. A week and a half....
Posted by: jbauer

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 29/08/2002 22:51

Ok, installed and have been addicted to the multi player version all day. Let's get a server going... Do you need lots of upstream bandwidth to host a game? I have DSL with 1.2 down but only around 384 up...

Am I a decent host? If not, is someone else? When can we do it? Tonight!?

- Jon
Posted by: Anonymous

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 30/08/2002 02:46

How much did your card cost?
Posted by: greggerm

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 30/08/2002 05:11

Loren, I'd like to THANK YOU for completely and utterly ruining my Labor Day weekend. Any thoughts of spending it outdoors, ANY thoughts of having some beers, ANY thoughts of otherwise being away from my computer are now in serious trouble.

The game is fan-freakin-tastic. I'd participate in a Empeg-Only server in a heartbeat.

But I do have some gameplay questions... Is there a way to connect a standard joystick to the game for flying? I'm a huge flightsim nut and could probably fly circles around these mouse-jockies if I could get my rig connected. (It only looks like it accepts mouse control for flight)

September release, eah? Count me in!
-Greg
Posted by: Waterman981

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 30/08/2002 16:16

I got a MSI GeForce4 440MX w/64 MB DDR from a local shop for $87. It will do until the AIW Radeon 9700 comes out
Posted by: Anonymous

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 31/08/2002 15:06

$87, wow. I guess I can wait on a new video card. That's almost a fourth of the price of my entire computer.
Posted by: fusto

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 31/08/2002 17:45

Oh man, I am in some serious trouble with this game.
And the full version isnt even released yet.
Boy is the girl going to be pissed with me...
Oh well....

I tried to set up a server for us empeggers but owing to an apparent lack of documentation, I dont appear to know what the hell I'm doing.

Ive got a Dell P-Edge P600 with 256 MB ram running windows 2000 server, hooked up to a Cable modem, doing jack-all here at my house.
I downloaded the bf1942 server app, installed it, configured it, and apparently succeeded at nothing.
I dont know how good the server will be if I can get it going, but I figured its worth a shot.

Anybody out there have any pointers on how to set this up?
I'm willing to give it another shot.

Cheers,
Z~
Posted by: fusto

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 31/08/2002 17:49

Why do these imbiciles in the game insist on shooting me when I get in the airplane just because I got to it first? We're on the same team for crying out loud!!!"

These guys are seriously starting to piss me off.
One guy killed me 4 times in a row.
So I spent an hour following him around and sniping him.
Two wrongs dont make a right, but three rights make a left.

Z~
Posted by: Waterman981

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 31/08/2002 21:28

$87 is nothing... when you look at $400 for the new Radeon. But now I can play the game. And all my old games run so much better... Of course I am stuck on BF1942 Now I just need a better internet connection... my ping time sucks for this game. How is it on a modem anyone?? Much lag??
Posted by: wfaulk

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 31/08/2002 22:33

If your computer cost about $400, I doubt it'd be able to play the game regardless of your video card.
Posted by: Anonymous

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 01/09/2002 07:50

We got it like 2 years ago through a combination of it being on sale and with a rebate and it being a display model, so it was a pretty good deal. Compaq Presario- 500 mhz, 192 mb ram, 10gb hd. Not the best, but it's good enough for at least counter-strike.
Posted by: Anonymous

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 01/09/2002 07:52

Yeah, that $87 card is starting to sound pretty cheap
Posted by: fusto

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 01/09/2002 07:52

I just picked up an ATI Radeon 7000 32MB vido card at Best Buy for $50.
It works great, and seems to have no problems displaying the game whatsoever.
In the BF-1942 release notes it says there may be issues with this card, but I went and got the latest drivers and so far so good.
Maybe a better card would display the game better, but this is my first foray into PC gaming (I was solely a PS2 guy until last week. Thanks Loren. ), and the quality for the cash outlay seems acceptable to me.

Z~
Posted by: Anonymous

[OT]Re: Battlefield 1942 - 01/09/2002 07:58

That sounds like a good comprimise. I may have to go pick one up.
Posted by: drakino

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 01/09/2002 12:44

I'm still itching to play this. I saw it at Quakecon, but never bothered to load it. Then I see this thread, load it up, and can't play. I finally found a game my 9700 out of the box dosen't like. Instead of crashes, or anything like that, I get no text on the interface. And the problem? I have a grand total of one driver to try. A person from ATI over at the rage3d forums confirmed the issue, and stated it's fixed in the next driver revision. Problem is that the only ones to be leaked so far are XP drivers, and not 2000 (What happened to WDM?). So I have to wait past the labor day weekend to get my first taste of the game.

Ironicially if I had loaded it at Quakecon, it would have worked on my 8500. But I've already given my 8500 to a friend.
Posted by: ricin

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 02/09/2002 16:24

Ok, now that I've had a chance to play the game (a lot), I just have one thing to say: It kicks ass! I'm officially addicted. So what ever happened to the "Empeg Owners" server idea?
Posted by: fusto

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 03/09/2002 08:48

I tried to set one up, but success eludes me.
There doesnt appear to be any documentation on how to set one up, so I'm sure I'm missing a key ingredient. I've got the .exe, I've got a server, etc. etc.
Anybody have any pointers?
See previous posts by me above, to see what I've tried so far.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 03/09/2002 09:44

In counter-strike you just go to "create game", choose which options you want and whether or not you want it to be a dedicated server. It looks like it's a similar procedure for BF1942.
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 03/09/2002 09:50

I've got the .exe, I've got a server, etc. etc.

Silly question, but among the "etc. etc." you didn't say whether you ran the EXE in the same directory as the file set for the full game.

Most of these games, the dedicated server EXE can't live all by itself. It also needs the client game date files as well, or sometimes a modified version of them.

Is it that simple?
Posted by: fusto

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 03/09/2002 11:32

Aahhh...
Didnt realize you needed to have the actual game, and the server installed.
For some reason I thought that the server executable was a standalone.
Ah well. I'm kinda new to PC gaming.
Let me try that.

Z~
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 03/09/2002 11:38

Yeah, figured that might be it.
Posted by: loren

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 03/09/2002 11:51

Is there a way to connect a standard joystick to the game for flying?

You should be able to go to the options - controls setup and click on the control you want to change, then move the input you want to map it to.

So if you want the Pitch down of the airplane to be a up on your flight stick, just click that box, press up on your joystick, and that should be it.

A lot of guys at work went out and bought flight sticks just for that purpose!
Posted by: fusto

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 03/09/2002 12:15

I got it.
The server name is ARAMIS
And the pw is: Empegsrcool.
(how cheezy is that? )

Cant guarantee the quality of the ping, or how long it will be available for (this server might get reallocated) but for now there you go.
I limited the number of participants to 20, to try and improve the quality.
Any other comments or questions, please just let me know.
And if it totally sucks, let me know that too. If its not worth it, Ill unistall, and somebody else can give it a whirl.

Z~
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 03/09/2002 12:27

Is the password case-sensitive?
Posted by: fusto

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 03/09/2002 12:44

Yah.
And punctuation too.
Posted by: davec

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 03/09/2002 13:22

And punctuation too.

Is there a period after Empegsrcool then?

I will try when I get home from work. And please, don't shoot me because I got to the plane first...
Posted by: Waterman981

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 03/09/2002 14:01

Yes there is a period. I was in the game, but was all alone We need to say a time otherwise the room will remain empty while everyone is playing in other games, and we will never get something started. 10-11pm Eastern anyone? It would be cool if everyone uses their BBS name, so you know who you are killing
Posted by: loren

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 03/09/2002 14:27

I just moved to a new apartment, so as soon as my DSL line is back up and working i'm definitely in. We'll have to set a day and time like waterman suggested. it'll have to be after 8pm PST for me...
Posted by: visuvius

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 03/09/2002 15:41

Excellent, thanks so much for doing that. I agree that we should set a time to play.
Posted by: Waterman981

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 03/09/2002 18:51

I'm going in now to play... Everyone come and join up!

edit: Well I just got my butt kicked by fusto. When I get better I will get my revenge!!!! Thanks fusto for the server!!!!!
Posted by: davec

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 03/09/2002 20:35

Allright I'm an idiot... How do you get to the server? I can only seem to find the menu to enter an IP address or to create a game. And it's not listed on the urrent servers page...
Help!!!

edit: Nevermind I figured it out. FYI Add ARAMIS to the filter box and it will show up...
Posted by: fusto

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 04/09/2002 08:35

Well I just got my butt kicked by fusto.

Purely unintentional, I swear. Just dumb luck.
Well maybe except for the couple of times I sniped you.

Till we meet again!

Z~
Posted by: jbauer

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 04/09/2002 11:08

That was fun last night. Let's do it again soon!

- Jon
Posted by: Tim

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 06/09/2002 15:19

Have you tried Army Ops yet? That game is absolutely nuts. I think I still play BF1942 more though, even if Army Ops is completely free (and not a demo).
Posted by: loren

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 06/09/2002 15:23

Heads up... there's a patch for BF1942 and the server.

http://www.ea.com/eagames/official/battlefield1942/gamedemo.jsp?state=111
Posted by: Tim

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 06/09/2002 15:36

And make sure you install the right one. I accidentally installed the 'server' patch (the link from the downloads page on www.battlefield1942.com pointed to the wrong file), and it unistalled the demo.
Posted by: visuvius

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 09/09/2002 22:13

Can someone tell me how to show the FPS in the game?

nm, got it

console.showfps 1
Posted by: fusto

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 10/09/2002 07:33

I was trying to figure out some of these console commads as well.
First, how do you get to the console?

Z~
Posted by: davec

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 10/09/2002 08:28

how do you get to the console?

hit the ~ and it will come up
Posted by: Waterman981

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 10/09/2002 15:36

Well according to my local media play, and gamestop.com , it comes out tomorrow. Yet EA says on Saturday. Anyone sell software here who has seen it come in to your store yet? Lets keep our fingers crossed its tomorrow!!!
Posted by: loren

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 10/09/2002 16:11

The specialty shops who are having it overnighted will have it tomorrow (EB, and the like)... however it will be in wide distribution on Saturday. I hope you pre-bought your copy if you plan on getting it tomorrow... =]
Posted by: fusto

Trouble with Sniping - 10/09/2002 17:18

Not sure what the hell I'm doing wrong.
Whenever I snipe someone, it appears to have no effect.
Yet when I'm sniped, instant death.

Should I be aiming for headshots?
I generally aim for the chest as its a larger target, but I'm having no luck.
Occasionally I'll take someone out, but its like 1 in 5.
I probably just suck

Z~
Posted by: visuvius

Re: Trouble with Sniping - 10/09/2002 18:03

I had the same problem. I came to the conclusion that i'm just not hitting them. Head shot is the way to go, but that is a toughy.

Hey, i've been playing this game since Loren mentioned it and i still don't know how to read the scores. I think the 1st column is kills, and i think the last column is deaths, but i don't know what the other one is.

Also, how do you lie on the ground?
Posted by: loren

Re: Trouble with Sniping - 10/09/2002 18:08

Headshots is what you need. To steady your shot, either crouch (ctrl) or go prone/laydown (z). The prone position will give you better aim and accuracy.
Posted by: Waterman981

Re: Battlefield 1942 - 10/09/2002 19:49

I'm not worried to much about having it pre-bought here. Everyone I have talked to has never heard of it... including all the people at the computer stores....
Posted by: davec

Reading the scores - 11/09/2002 09:26

how to read the scores

First column is points
Second is your kills
Third is times you died.
Fourth is ping.

Points are awarded for a kill and from what I can tell you get 2 if you gain control of a command post. I think you need to be the one that gets the flag from the enemy and then rasies your teams flag in order to get the points for that.
Posted by: Tim

Re: Reading the scores - 11/09/2002 09:50

I've had some weirdness happen where I would be in a control zone for over a minute and the flag never get lowered. Its goofy sometimes.
Posted by: davec

Re: Reading the scores - 11/09/2002 11:19

I've had some weirdness happen where I would be in a control zone for over a minute and the flag never get lowered. Its goofy sometimes.

There is an enemy within the zone somewhere. That is the case when you can't capture or regain control. You gotta implement the house to house search then if they're not out in the open. Probably one of those damn snipers camping out...
Posted by: Tim

Re: Reading the scores - 11/09/2002 12:47

Even if the enemy is there, the flag should still lower, just not a new one be raised.
Posted by: davec

Re: Reading the scores - 11/09/2002 14:38

Hmmm never seen that happen but I've had a heckuva time getting my teams flag raised at times. So I start the house to house search from the outside thru the windows. Amazing what you kill sneaking up behind them...

So when are people on the ARAMIS server? I usually pop in and out to see if anyone's there and practice my flying whiel waiting. Ricin shows up a lot, and when I landed my plane to greet him, the bastard shot me!!!
Posted by: Terminator

Re: Reading the scores - 11/09/2002 15:02

Well, there were 2 of us online at 11pm cst last nite, and I think i'll be there practicing my flying at around the same time tonite.

Sean
Posted by: ricin

Re: Reading the scores - 11/09/2002 15:33

At least I wasn't on your team. The bastards that are ON YOUR TEAM and run a jeep into you when you're trying to take off are the ones to watch out for.
Posted by: loren

Re: Reading the scores - 11/09/2002 15:44

As soon as Pacbell straightens out my DSL... which is looking like Friday... I'll be there with guns blazin!
Posted by: visuvius

Re: Reading the scores - 11/09/2002 16:41

I'm gonna try to be on there tonite too. We need more people.
Posted by: Terminator

Re: Reading the scores - 11/09/2002 21:05

Damn, i got on and saw 2 people, my computer crashed, and when i came back they were gone. wtf!
Posted by: oliver

Re: Reading the scores - 11/09/2002 21:15

Yeah, and buddy of mine and myself went on their tonight. Will try and get back on tomorrow night