Posted by: pgrzelak
"I will not eat green eggs and ham."
Posted by: tahir
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 12/01/2006 14:54
There's a good debate on this going on at Downsizer, a couple of the contributors are trained genetecists and one of them actually works in the industry:
http://forum.downsizer.net/viewtopic.php?t=9672&highlight=
http://forum.downsizer.net/viewtopic.php?t=9672&highlight=
Posted by: tahir
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 12/01/2006 14:56
BTW my favourite Seuss is Cat In The Hat, and anyone that reads to their kids at bedtime should own The Sleep Book, never fails.
Posted by: Laura
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 00:02
But the ham isn't supposed to be green, just the eggs 
Posted by: Laura
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 00:05
I'm partial to Yertle the Turtle myself. I'm Yertle the Turtle, o marvelous me, for I am the ruler of all that I see.
Go Dog Go was really good too.
Go Dog Go was really good too.
Posted by: tfabris
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 02:09
Okay, I'm officially sick and tired of the fluorescence trick with genetic manipulation. That gag has now jumped the shark. Or jumped the double-helix or whatever you want to call it. It's the genetic equivalent of ricing out your Honda civic. Anyone can do it just by bolting on parts from a catalog, and the result is rarely aesthetically pleasing.
Posted by: wfaulk
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 02:23
In the article they talk about using the fluorescence to track where implanted stem cells from a green pig go when implanted in a normal pig. As such, it seems reasonable to me.
Posted by: tfabris
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 02:28
Okay, that is useful, assuming that actually works as described.
I'm just sick of seeing fluorescent fish, fluorescent rabbits, fluorescent animal-du-jour, just for the sake of saying "hey look we can manipulate genes, see our fluorescent ferret?".
I'm just sick of seeing fluorescent fish, fluorescent rabbits, fluorescent animal-du-jour, just for the sake of saying "hey look we can manipulate genes, see our fluorescent ferret?".
Posted by: tahir
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 09:16
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The basic principle is called a reporter gene system
When putting genetic material(transfecting) into another organism be it bacteria, yeast or a pig you need to beable to quickly tell if the transfection has been sucessful
The simplest system is called the lacz reporter gene. This is a gene which will digest certain compounds and produce a blue colour. If you attached the lacz gene to the other genetic material you want to transfect then grow the bacteria on this compound you know if you have been sucessful because your colonies are blue
These genetic material from these pigs could potentially be used in a very similar manner
This is a post at downsizer, the poster works with this kind of technology and is supportive of it, she says it'll definitely have benefits in animal testing.
Posted by: tahir
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 09:28
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Go Dog Go was really good too.
The words are good, just don't like the pictures. What's the one that was published posthumously, about different coloured days, teriffic book.
Posted by: ShadowMan
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 10:41
Posted by: tahir
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 10:55
Posted by: rob
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 13:33
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I'm just sick of seeing fluorescent fish, fluorescent rabbits, fluorescent animal-du-jour, just for the sake of saying "hey look we can manipulate genes, see our fluorescent ferret?".
Absolutely! What we want to see are four assed ferrets, and four assed versions of all those other animals too.
Rob
Posted by: Geoff
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 14:43
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Absolutely! What we want to see are four assed ferrets, and four assed versions of all those other animals too.
Much better than a half-assed attempt...
Posted by: tahir
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 15:06
A four assed baboon? 
Posted by: visuvius
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 15:36
Posted by: Ezekiel
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 17:28
That's interesting & I'm sure quite useful. I'd like to see glow in the dark cocktail mixers and soda/juices.
There'd be nothing better at a Haloween coctail party.
-Zeke
There'd be nothing better at a Haloween coctail party.
-Zeke
Posted by: tfabris
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 17:33
You don't need genetics to do that.
Posted by: canuckInOR
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 18:57
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But the ham isn't supposed to be green, just the eggs
Green eggs. I've eaten one. Tastier that it looks.
Posted by: Ezekiel
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 19:18
Great! I still haven't seen a glowing drink yet :P (Short of a submerged glow stick and that doesn't count!)
Non-toxic glowing drinks. I swear somebody will make a fortune with them.
-Zeke
Non-toxic glowing drinks. I swear somebody will make a fortune with them.
-Zeke
Posted by: Roger
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 19:36
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Great! I still haven't seen a glowing drink yet :P
Tonic water fluoresces in UV light.
Posted by: Ezekiel
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 20:08
Hmmm, I'll have to get a UV light and experiment to see if the quantity of gin and lime have any effect on its properties.
It would take an Englishman to know this type of thing.
Thinking of gin and tonics, does anybody know why they're called 'gin and tonic' while one orders 'vodka tonic' instead of 'vodka and tonic'? (really, not a teaser, I don't know)
-Zeke
It would take an Englishman to know this type of thing.
Thinking of gin and tonics, does anybody know why they're called 'gin and tonic' while one orders 'vodka tonic' instead of 'vodka and tonic'? (really, not a teaser, I don't know)
-Zeke
Posted by: wfaulk
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 13/01/2006 20:18
I'd wager that it's because "vodka and" requires a glottal stop between the two words where as "gin and" does not. And linguistic acrobatics are not suggested while under the influence.
Posted by: Roger
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 14/01/2006 07:22
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Hmmm, I'll have to get a UV light and experiment to see if the quantity of gin and lime have any effect on its properties.
Mixing salt into the tonic water stops it fluorescing (don't do this with a gin and tonic -- it's a waste of gin), so I'm not sure if the lime juice might do the same. Try it -- it's a simple drunken science experiment, which are always fun.
Posted by: bonzi
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 15/01/2006 16:40
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There's a good debate on this going on at Downsizer, a couple of the contributors are trained genetecists and one of them actually works in the industry:
http://forum.downsizer.net/viewtopic.php?t=9672&highlight=
Really, a well informed and civilized debate (like the whole site, after all).
Edit: err, umm, almost the whole site
Posted by: tahir
Re: "I will not eat green eggs and ham." - 16/01/2006 08:45
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Edit: err, umm, almost the whole site
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