Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG?

Posted by: MiloDC

Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 05/12/2003 00:56

Now that I have a high quality, high storage capacity, portable OGG player, and now that empeg (Rio Car) OGg support is under way, I'm in the market for a good CDA/WAV -> OGG converter.

I've auditioned a couple. Advanced WMA Workshop, I don't like. When I selected my DVD drive to start ripping CDA's, the program unceremoniously exited without the slightest explanation. Not the mark of good software.

Media Twins' Ogg Encoder Decoder Tools (what an unwieldy name!) seems nice. Gets the job done and boasts a decent options set, including output up to 500 Kb/s. The unregistered version rips only half a track, but I'll gladly pay for full functionality if it has a good report card.

Suggestions, anyone?
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 05/12/2003 00:58

Have you tried ripping Oggs in Rio Music Manager?

It may or may not be what you want, but it wasn't listed among the things you said you'd tried.
Posted by: MiloDC

Re: Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 05/12/2003 01:24

tfabris: Have you tried ripping Oggs in Rio Music Manager? It may or may not be what you want, but it wasn't listed among the things you said you'd tried.


The Manager's highest OGG bit rate is 256Kb/s. (Gotta love that silly "upgrade to premium" to rip to MP3, by the way.) I don't see any tagging options in it, either.
Posted by: peter

Re: Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 05/12/2003 03:16

The Manager's highest OGG bit rate is 256Kb/s.
Plus, there's a bug in all current versions of Rio Music Manager whereby the Vorbis files it makes are out-of-spec if the codebooks take up more than one page (which they do at bitrates that high). FITNR.

If you're prepared to put up with 500kbits/s audio files, though, you should be encoding to Flac not Vorbis. (Unless you have a device that supports Vorbis but not Flac -- Karma certainly supports both.)

Peter

Posted by: MiloDC

Re: Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 05/12/2003 03:28

The Manager's highest OGG bit rate is 256Kb/s.
If you're prepared to put up with 500kbits/s audio files, though, you should be encoding to Flac not Vorbis. (Unless you have a device that supports Vorbis but not Flac -- Karma certainly supports both.)
My empeg (Rio Car) doesn't play FLAC files, and I don't want to have to keep duplicates of tracks in separate formats.
Posted by: peter

Re: Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 05/12/2003 03:40

My empeg (Rio Car) doesn't play FLAC files
Gosh, so it doesn't. I'd forgotten that. It's been a loooong time since the v3 alpha -- internal car-player builds have had Flac support for ages.

Peter

Posted by: brendanhoar

Re: Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 05/12/2003 04:33

Peter, stop being such a tease!

-brendan
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 05/12/2003 10:44

My empeg (Rio Car) doesn't play FLAC files
 3.0 will, when it's stable enough. In other words, you're in the same boat with FLAC and OGG with regard to both the Karma and the Rio Car.

By the way, something you should keep in mind with regard to the Karma: Both FLAC and OGG files will consume its battery charge faster than MP3 files will.
Posted by: DeadFire

Re: Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 05/12/2003 12:34

I can't believe no one has mentioned EAC. If quality is the biggest concern, why would you consider any other ripper?

In the compression options, you can directly select up to 350kbps, or you can get up to 500kbps by selecting Q10. And of course, because EAC includes a line for additional command line options for your encoder, you can easily specify any other options that aren't natively supported.
Posted by: MiloDC

Re: Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 05/12/2003 13:16

I can't believe no one has mentioned EAC. If quality is the biggest concern, why would you consider any other ripper?
Funny, EAC is what I've used to make MP3's for the past year or two, I totally forgot that it can produce OGG files. Thanks for the reminder, DeadFire.

Of course, now that I know that 3.0 empeg is slated for FLAC support (thanks, tfabris), I still might need some other conversion tool.
Posted by: brendanhoar

Re: Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 05/12/2003 13:24

Just remember that while 3.0 is slated for various features, there's no concrete release date, nor any promised release at all (it's a spare time project, I believe).

-brendan
Posted by: Mataglap

Re: Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 05/12/2003 13:52

commandline ogg encoder oggenc2.3 available at rarewares.hydrogenaudio.org/ogg.html. Use the 1.0.1 if you're looking at Q settings under 5, use the GT3b1 for Q=>5. (Use the external encoder options in EAC.)

oggdropXPd is a cute little gui tool for encoding and decoding ogg files.

There's a whole bunch of other ogg vorbis tools there too, including vorbisgain. Rob is aware of vorbisgain (ReplayGain) and it might not be impossible for eventual replaygain support at some point in the future.

The guys who maintain the rarewares site really know what they are talking about.

--Nathan
Posted by: DeadFire

Re: Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 06/12/2003 01:36

You can use EAC with FLAC, too. There was a post a while back where someone showed how he set his up. I recently bought an extra hard drive and started ripping using his FLAC settings in EAC. The idea is to never have to rip a CD again.

I just have to find a tool that makes transcoding from FLAC to whatever-I-please quick and easy.
Posted by: adavidw

Re: Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 07/12/2003 22:32

I just have to find a tool that makes transcoding from FLAC to whatever-I-please quick and easy.


Why that would be dbPowerAmp Music Converter.
Posted by: dewey1973

Re: Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 10/12/2003 16:36

I just have to find a tool that makes transcoding from FLAC to whatever-I-please quick and easy.

Foobar has a nice convert feature.
Posted by: Yer Mom

Re: Best software for CDA/WAV to OGG? - 13/12/2003 10:14

I use CDex, from http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/