quart into pint pot

Posted by: thinfourth2

quart into pint pot - 26/03/2004 13:39

Okay i know the jemplode can talk to karam as well as empeg but how do i get 36gig from empeg into karma.

Can i just copy and paste my playlists

i haven't played with it yet so just wondering
Posted by: tfabris

Re: quart into pint pot - 26/03/2004 14:02

Can i just copy and paste my playlists
Yes. Assuming that you've created RIDs on your Empeg for all tracks that don't have one (i.e., pretty much everything unless you used recent Jemplode versions to put them there in the first place).

Right now, you need RioRid.jar to do it and knowledge of the necessary command line parameters. I hope that one day, Mike can integrate the rid-rebuilding feature directly into Jemplode instead of requiring a separate app to do it.
Posted by: thinfourth2

Re: quart into pint pot - 26/03/2004 14:14

that will be a no then
Posted by: tfabris

Re: quart into pint pot - 26/03/2004 14:22

It's not that tough, just grab riorid.jar from here and the command line goes like this:

java -jar riorid.jar empeg <empeg-IP-address> " " missing

The first parameter, "empeg", tells it to use the empeg protocal instead of the Karma protocol. The second parameter is your empeg's IP address. The third parameter is the network password for your empeg if you have one, in my case I don't have one so it's " ". The last parameter, "missing", simply tells it to fill in RIDs that are missing rather than trying to re-do RIDs for the whole player.

Anyhoo, once you've done that, then you can copy and paste playlists straight from the empeg into the Karma, and it'll copy the playlists and the music files, or just the playlists if the files already exist.
Posted by: brendanhoar

Re: quart into pint pot - 26/03/2004 16:18

> Okay i know the jemplode can talk to karam as well as
> empeg but how do i get 36gig from empeg into karma.

With a shoehorn?

-brendan
Posted by: thinfourth2

Re: quart into pint pot - 28/03/2004 03:27

Big hammer would be better
Posted by: thinfourth2

Re: quart into pint pot - 31/03/2004 05:36

okay i have taken the brave pills

Right what is the latest emplode and where is it hidden

The command line stuff is that in windows

or can i do it on the mac
Posted by: tfabris

Re: quart into pint pot - 31/03/2004 09:36

Right what is the latest emplode and where is it hidden
I think you mean where is the latest Jemplode and that jemplode.jar file is hidden here:

http://www.inzyme.com/rio/empeg

Remember that you also need the RMM Lite Jar and the riorid jar from the site I linked above.

The command line stuff is that in windows or can i do it on the mac
I think you can do it on the mac, but I'm not sure exactly how it's done. I don't believe it starts with "java.exe -jar" any more, but I would guess the rest of it would be the same.
Posted by: thinfourth2

Re: quart into pint pot - 31/03/2004 11:26

Okay it will be windoze then

don't forget KISS we have a mechanical engineer here the closest i get to programing in my job is changing cam timing which is damn tricky on a sulzer RTA fuel pump.
Posted by: tfabris

Re: quart into pint pot - 31/03/2004 13:02

Okay, if you're on Windoze then make sure to install the latest version of Sun's Java Run Time Engine on that box before running it. (That's the "Java.exe" part of the command line.)
Posted by: drakino

Re: quart into pint pot - 31/03/2004 14:14

To do this on the Mac, download the files to your Desktop.

Then, open Terminal (in Applications/Utilities). From there, type:
cd Desktop
then
java -jar riorid.jar empeg <empeg-IP-address> " " missing

No neeed to worry about having Java downloaded and installed properly, since all the system updates Apple releases takes care of that.
Posted by: tfabris

Re: quart into pint pot - 31/03/2004 14:59

Ah, kewl, thanks Tom.

There you go, Paul. No Windoze needed. Enjoy!
Posted by: thinfourth2

Re: quart into pint pot - 31/03/2004 16:04

erm i get this it no look right

PaulPowerbook:~/desktop] paulalli% java -jar riorid.jar empeg 192.168.0.104 " " missing
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org.jempeg.empeg.protocol.EmpegSynchronizeClient
at com.rio.riorid.Main.main(Main.java:56)
[PaulPowerbook:~/desktop] paulalli%

104 being the empeg
Posted by: tfabris

Re: quart into pint pot - 31/03/2004 16:25

You also need the latest version of the Jar file for rmmlite in the same directory. It's available from the same page you got riorid at. Is that what the problem is?
Posted by: thinfourth2

Re: quart into pint pot - 31/03/2004 17:02

fixed i didn't have jemplode on the desktop
Posted by: thinfourth2

Re: quart into pint pot - 31/03/2004 17:26

Erm takes a bloody long time

Off for the unversal computer accelerator compound nice cup of tea
Posted by: tfabris

Re: quart into pint pot - 01/04/2004 11:02

Oh yeah, heh, I forgot to tell you it would take a long time the first time you run it.

It's got to download the MP3 data from the file, perform some math on that data, then write the resulting checksum back to the tag. I don't know if it uses the entire MP3's worth of data, or if it only has to download a portion of it.
Posted by: Roger

Re: quart into pint pot - 01/04/2004 11:32

I don't know if it uses the entire MP3's worth of data, or if it only has to download a portion of it.

It only calculates the RID based on a portion of the MP3 data (a bit from each of the beginning, the end and the middle). Whether it downloads the entire MP3 is another question entirely.
Posted by: brendanhoar

Re: quart into pint pot - 01/04/2004 17:50

From my experience, it seems to do the right thing with grabbing only the sub-portions of the files.

(was on 802.11b at the time, if it was the entire files, woulda taken a lot longer)

-brendan