Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg?

Posted by: burdell1

Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 14/05/2002 20:11

Does anyone out there know if there is any way to put these types of graphics on the empeg??

http://www.pioneer.co.jp/car/pclink/

http://www.kenwoodusa.com/register/oel_software.jsp
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 14/05/2002 20:27

Instructions on how to edit the graphics in the empeg are here.
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 14/05/2002 20:38

Interesting. The "preview" window on the Japanese Organic EL site uses animated GIFs for their previews. If you rightclick and save them to disk, they seem to open right up in the Jemplode animation editor. They're huge (60 frames) so not particularly suitable as a bootup animation, but it certainly looks do-able. Haven't actually tried sending one to the player yet. Anyone think of any reason why a 60-frame animation might be harmful to the player's health? Are there safeguards in the Jemplode animation editor to prevent users from doing something bad?
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 14/05/2002 20:43

Deleting every other frame in those 60-frame animations results in a fairly nice little 30-frame number that might just be appropriate for the player. Gonna give it a shot.
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 14/05/2002 20:46

Yep, works like a charm. You can have your player boot up to swooping F-18s if you like.
Posted by: Waterman981

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 14/05/2002 23:41

Now all we need is the empeg guys to add a visual that will show a custom animation that we can upload, or even better, multiple animations that will switch with the songs.
Posted by: justinlarsen

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 15/05/2002 02:43

im telling ya toby, you need to make a visual that can play or loop these animations with the songs, the people will love it, besides if they really must go with the music, you can ahve the frames advance to the beat, that would be slick as well.

visuals - thats for toby to find it
Posted by: burdell1

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 15/05/2002 06:39

is there anyway we could get you to post it as an attachment?

That would be great if someone could figure out how to get the cool volume animations from that website onto the empeg
Posted by: tanstaafl.

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 15/05/2002 11:21

That would be great if someone could figure out how to get the cool volume animations from that website onto the empeg

Hmmm... now all together class, can anybody spell the word "Copyright"?

tanstaafl.
Posted by: burdell1

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 15/05/2002 11:31

If I could pay for the use of them and put them on my Empeg, I would love to......
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 15/05/2002 11:41

And what's wrong with the cool volume animations that are already on the empeg?
Posted by: burdell1

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 15/05/2002 11:52

In comparison to the Pioneer and Kenwood, they are a little boring.
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 15/05/2002 11:53

Have you spent any actual time watching them?

Homework assignment: Leave your player on Funnelweb for a while.
Posted by: eternalsun

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 15/05/2002 12:10

I looked at the Pioneer and Kenwood ones and they're kind of boring too, they just loop and loop...

Calvin
Posted by: SE_Sport_Driver

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 15/05/2002 12:18

They are cool for a boot up logo... thx
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 15/05/2002 12:18

Right, that's my point.

Whereas the Pioneer and Kenwood images are simply looping animations, Toby's visuals actually change depending on the type of music being played. Some, such as funnelweb, keep surprising you with the different patterns that appear. I consider that a lot less boring than a looping 60-frame animation.
Posted by: burdell1

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 15/05/2002 12:57

i'm not talking about the little movies....they are perfect for the startup screen and that is about it....i'm talking about basic utlities like the volume where the graphics would show a different looking meter going up or down like on the Pioneer website...
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Posted by: thinfourth2

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 15/05/2002 13:04

You mean like a little bar that goes across the screen when you increase the volume.

I think i might of seen that before
Posted by: burdell1

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 15/05/2002 13:14

i was looking for something a little more cool than that
Posted by: F0X

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 15/05/2002 13:30

I can see what burdell1 is saying. I enjoy the built in visuals, they are great, but being able to import new ones cant harm. The first two 'level indicators' on the Pioneer site are pretty cool looking and could supplement some of the already excellent visuals.
Posted by: thinfourth2

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 15/05/2002 15:50

Okay the cube like thing if empegifed and done by toby could be cool.

But how many different visuals can the pioneer support i would be suprised if it is more than 5

I do think that lot of the empeg ones are very good indeed, funnel web, hula hoops, being a couple of my faves
Posted by: andy

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 16/05/2002 10:48

If toby did the cube visual it would spin, changing direction with the beat and each moving column would be tied to a particular frequency range on a particular channel...
Posted by: rob

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 17/05/2002 04:07

Toby implemented a cube on Rio Central which has a different visual on each face, and which moves around to the beat.

Rob
Posted by: burdell1

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 18/05/2002 21:29

are there any screenshots of it posted?

Posted by: matthew_k

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 18/05/2002 22:20

In reply to:

a different visual on each face, and which moves around to the beat.



Wasn't that what the BeOS people always used as an example of why Be was the Best Thing Since Sliced Bread? Anyways, are these randomly selected visuals from the other visuals or are there six cube-specific visuals?

Matthew
Posted by: ineedcolor

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 28/05/2002 18:01

I would also love to see some shots of the cube visuals (and any others) posted...Rio's site doesn't seem to have any....
Posted by: SE_Sport_Driver

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 29/05/2002 12:07

I'll put some on my site if anyone wants to create them.... I already have a few.

http://www.barbaza.com/gallery/wrx/
Posted by: burdell1

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 30/05/2002 11:37

Who is this Toby? Does he have a website?
Posted by: SE_Sport_Driver

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 30/05/2002 11:54

Tody is the person that designed all of the visuals for the empeg/RioCar and the Rio Central.
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 30/05/2002 11:55

Who is this Toby? Does he have a website?

Click here.
Posted by: SE_Sport_Driver

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 30/05/2002 12:30

Blast from the past with BBS based FAQ!
Posted by: burdell1

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 05/06/2002 21:38

Has anyone out there checked out the Pioneer's organicEL display yet?

Posted by: rob

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 06/06/2002 02:05

It's been around for about two years - just about every Pioneer head unit uses it now. We considered it for a not-to-be Mk.3 empeg, although at the time it had serious burn in issues (it was necessary to invert the screen periodically).

Rob
Posted by: justinlarsen

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 06/06/2002 03:30

yup, i noticed that while starting at them all day long at work that about every 30seconds it inverts, kinda of annoying
Posted by: snoopstah

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 06/06/2002 03:41

My friend bought a Pioneer MP3 CD player with the OEL display (after seeing my nice shiny new empeg! - to give him credit he did try and get an empeg). The display is quite nice - a lot smaller than the empeg display, but hence appears crisper due to the same resolution. Graphics are very nice and smooth, but it's so boring just to have an animation looping with no attempt to make it be affected by the music.

Other than that, it's an adequate unit - allows you to change front and rear eq settings individually (where have we seen *that* before?), and actually generates an EQ curve as you alter the parameters, which is something I'd love to see on the empeg.

But considering it RRPs over here for £600 (and even though he only paid £450), it seems vastly overpriced IMO - my JVC SH99RB MP3 CD player does almost everything his does (without the fancy display), and sounds to me to have a better inbuilt amp (although it's hard to tell as we have completely different cars/speakers), and only cost me £260.

And my empeg only cost £400, but that's hardly relevant as it's worth a hell of a lot more to me

Cheers,

A.
Posted by: stahimooney

Re: Pioneer & Kenwood graphics compaitble with Empeg? - 07/06/2002 08:20

You mean BeOS really ISN'T the best thing since sliced bread?!?