Alpha 5 stereo separation bug..

Posted by: rob

Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 22/01/2004 18:58

..is fixed internally (also affected internal Karma releases you'll be pleased to know - you get the Karma's feartures and the bugs!).

At this stage I'm going to consult with the empeg gurus here and work out what is needed to turn this into a public beta. Apart from database issues I suspect emplode may be a little finickity so don't hold your breath, but it's getting there.

Rob
Posted by: Daria

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 22/01/2004 19:05

Make us live with jEmplode!
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 22/01/2004 19:09

You da man, Rob!
Posted by: mlord

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 22/01/2004 19:18

Awesome!! I wonder if seeing this bug in alpha5 helped at all with the Karma efforts?

Cheers
Posted by: webroach

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 23/01/2004 02:01

you get the Karma's feartures and the bugs!

Cool! It's almost like actually having a karma, but not!

I really REALLY need to get one, I think.

Again, Rob, thanks for all your efforts. The upgrades are always much appreciated!
Posted by: SE_Sport_Driver

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 23/01/2004 08:09

Thank you Rob! You rock!
Posted by: frog51

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 23/01/2004 09:53

Top Geezer! I'm always too scared to play with the alphas (as I never have enough time to redo major fsck-ups), but betas are just fine territory to play in.
Posted by: crazymelki

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 23/01/2004 14:09

Thanks a lot for your effort

bye
Posted by: peter

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 24/01/2004 09:13

database issues
F, if I may say so, ITNR.

Peter
Posted by: SE_Sport_Driver

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 24/01/2004 09:40

Woohoo!!!
Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 24/01/2004 09:40

F, if I may say so, ITNR

Now, that sounded extremely certain, final and complete! It sounds like that bug was well stomped.
Posted by: SE_Sport_Driver

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 24/01/2004 09:42

hehe, It is pretty powerful how he seperated the F like that isn't it?

So Paul, you going to take the plunge if this comes out as a beta in the near future? I'm following your lead on this on.
Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 24/01/2004 09:55

Greetings!

I will load beta one onto the player that goes into the office with me. If it proves stable for standard play, I will install it on all of the others.
Posted by: tman

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 24/01/2004 10:03

Is thinfourth2 back yet though? If so can somebody ship him off again so we can get another release?
Posted by: peter

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 24/01/2004 10:23

I will load beta one onto the player that goes into the office with me. If it proves stable for standard play, I will install it on all of the others.
The big issue with these alphas is binary size / memory use, especially with big databases. (All Karmas have 16Mb, and for only 20Gb of disk.) As soon as it works for you, it ought to work for pretty much everyone.

Peter
Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 24/01/2004 10:42

Well, I bump into problems every now and then with 2.0. Usually during special case items (fscking drives). My syncs are somewhat of a challenge because of the number of FIDs I have. Emplode 2.0 really hates that, and has stopped trying... But I see no problems at all with day to day use. Sure, I cannot save a down-down-down playlist, but how often do your really want to randomize that much audio?

If anyone in empeg towers would like to have a few 80GB drives to test with, or borrow one of my players for experimental use, please send me a PM or email.
Posted by: SE_Sport_Driver

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 24/01/2004 10:46

Paul, are you using a Mk2 or a Mk2a? I have an 80GB and a 60GB in the same player and I've never had problems fsck'ing... I only have 3GB free on the player, but I have far fewer tracks than you.

Peter, thanks! (Out of curiousity, how many of the staff have empegs/RioCars?)
Posted by: peter

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 24/01/2004 10:50

If anyone in empeg towers would like to have a few 80GB drives to test with, or borrow one of my players for experimental use, please send me a PM or email
There shouldn't be any need for that. The issues, after all, are all to do with database size, not total amount of audio, so at the worst we'd only need a similar collection of *1 files -- which needn't have genuine *0 files behind them. We could lash that up easily on the 20s and 30s which Empeg Towers' biggest players have.

Peter
Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 24/01/2004 11:18

On a stuffed 80, I do occasionally - if I do not turn on swap. Emplode does fine with this, based on recent tests.
Posted by: Taym

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 24/01/2004 15:10

Rob, it's so good to hear you say this! THANK YOU!
Posted by: Shonky

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 30/01/2004 02:42

Another little one I noticed on a feature I regularly used:

Down, Down.L to get to the previously selected playlist seems to repeat the previous insert/enqueue/append without actually taking you to the previously selected playlist.
Posted by: image

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 03/02/2004 08:32

binary size / memory use, especially with big databases.


IANAP, but how much of a performance hit will you incur if you just a compressed database in memory, and have routines in the player to read it natively when needed? i can only think of a longer boot time, longer Down-Down-Down wait time, and a longer search time, which i think all of us will not mind, if it means that it gets around the memory limitations that we're fast approaching.
Posted by: SE_Sport_Driver

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 06/07/2005 02:17

Quote:
..is fixed internally (also affected internal Karma releases you'll be pleased to know - you get the Karma's feartures and the bugs!).

At this stage I'm going to consult with the empeg gurus here and work out what is needed to turn this into a public beta. Apart from database issues I suspect emplode may be a little finickity so don't hold your breath, but it's getting there.

Rob



Wow, I didn't realize how recently (I guess 18 months isn't recent.. but still) there was talk of a 3.00beta...

With the new memory board installed, I may get the guts to finally do 3.00a8 when it's back in my hands..
Posted by: frog51

Re: Alpha 5 stereo separation bug.. - 15/07/2005 09:46

surely you mean 3.00a10