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#279950 - 23/04/2006 12:35 RFID gone too far.
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
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http://on10.net/TheShow/2458/

He couldn't find a doctor that would implant the device into his hand so he just did it himself. I think a device I could leave in my pocket would be convenient enough.
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#279951 - 23/04/2006 13:22 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: msaeger]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
I dunno if its going too far. Its fairly uninvasive.

But those 2 girls need shot...

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#279952 - 23/04/2006 16:43 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
I suppose it's not much worse than piercings but the way he talks about it is kind of creepy. He makes it sounds like modding an xbox or something.
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#279953 - 23/04/2006 17:26 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: msaeger]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
I love how he says how the "chicks dig it" as well.

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#279954 - 23/04/2006 18:25 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: msaeger]
FireFox31
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Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
Due to limited range, he has to hold is hand quite close to the receiver. Boy, it sure was worth the effort to save the hassle of using your finger to flip the light switch.
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#279955 - 24/04/2006 11:48 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
Phoenix42
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Registered: 21/03/2002
Posts: 1424
Loc: MA but Irish born
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But those 2 girls need shot...


At about the 2:35 marker she mentions that she works for Microsoft.

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#279956 - 24/04/2006 13:20 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: FireFox31]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
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Due to limited range, he has to hold is hand quite close to the receiver. Boy, it sure was worth the effort to save the hassle of using your finger to flip the light switch.


Yes, but that means that only 'he' can activate the light.
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#279957 - 24/04/2006 15:55 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: andym]
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
I met this guy Saturday, at Maker Faire...

http://www.bmezine.com/news/presenttense/20050330.html

Really nice guy. Just wanted to find a way to open his front door without using a key. The RFID implant is passive, and barely left a scar. Interesting experiment, but I wouldn't do it...

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#279958 - 24/04/2006 16:29 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: jbauer]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Maybe he should have just used either a fingerprint reader or a numeric keypad...

Edit: Great. Just what I needed. Thinking about how to get around such a system, I started getting flashbacks from the Red Dwarf episode - The Inquisitor...
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#279959 - 24/04/2006 17:15 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: pgrzelak]
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
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Maybe he should have just used either a fingerprint reader or a numeric keypad... <snip>


He actually said that he looked into biometrics, and that they were either too expensive, or not reliable enough...

- Jon

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#279960 - 24/04/2006 18:01 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: jbauer]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
I really hope nobody tries to steal his car and really really wants it!

"What do you mean you can't just give me the keys?"

"Oh... I'm gonna need my meat cleaver"

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#279961 - 24/04/2006 18:23 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: msaeger]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I don't think that this is too far, either. It's pretty cool, especially if he could get other RFID locks to authenticate with it.

The thing is, he's obviously willingly given up his anonymity (or his future anonymity) for convenience's sake, which is fine. "Too far" is when these chips get put in people without them desiring for them to be there in the first place.

Blank Reg, here we come.
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#279962 - 24/04/2006 19:23 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: wfaulk]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Why not just have a fob you can leave in your pocket. I believe the Prius has something like that.
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#279963 - 24/04/2006 19:39 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: msaeger]
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
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Why not just have a fob you can leave in your pocket. I believe the Prius has something like that.


Yep. I asked him about that. He said that he'd lose the fob.

I think he really wanted to try this experiment. If he used a fob, he wouldn't be featured at Maker Faire, right?

Someone has to push the limits. Glad he did.

- Jon

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#279964 - 24/04/2006 19:52 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: msaeger]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Yeah, my mom's Lexus has a wireless key. You just have to have it on your person. It's smart enough to know where it is, though, as it will only allow the door where the person holding the key is standing to be unlocked and it won't allow you to lock the car if you leave the key inside.
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#279965 - 24/04/2006 20:00 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: msaeger]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
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Loc: NH USA
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#279966 - 24/04/2006 20:22 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: wfaulk]
StigOE
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Registered: 27/10/2002
Posts: 568
It's the same with my new Passat, since I have the keyless access option, but I can set it to unlock all the doors, not just just the door where I stand. To start the car the key also have to be inside the car.

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#279967 - 24/04/2006 20:31 Re: RFID gone too far. [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
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But those 2 girls need shot...

Interesting. I've almost wondered what those two were up to these days...but I never really cared.

They used to be the hosts of G4TV.com, which despite its name was a TV show on...well...G4. As you might expect, it was bad.
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