Why do I get the urge to say "Yeah! put that in your pipe and smoke it you ingrates"...

Funny, I don't consider myself an ingrate for trying to share a new perspective on things. On the contrary, I think it's good to occasionally challenge existing methods and see if there's a better way. Clearly in this case it looks like there isn't a better way (short of sharing the source with us and letting us do our own releases!) so I stand corrected.

Oh yeah, and ingrates don't spend a significant amount of their free time reporting bugs, helping new users, and developing 3rd party software. Actually, an ingrate wouldn't have cared enough to bother thinking about such a thing in the first place.
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- Tony C
my empeg stuff