I've been following that thread for as long as i've known about NASIOC too. The funny thing was that someone actually got one on a trip over there and tried to sell it in the classifieds for like $600... and no one bought it last i'd checked, but that was a long time ago. Man, if you could convert that thing to have a pop-up empeg... that would be sweeeet. I never could figure out if it's motorized or manual though... any idea?